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Any way to go around it? 04:11:27 <Mook> hmm, I wonder if https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Developer_Guide/Source_Code/Mercurial#Bundles will help 04:11:36 <Mook> (not sure how ib's client.py deals with that...) 04:12:00 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 04:15:16 --> sj has joined #instantbird 04:17:00 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 04:20:23 --> sj has joined #instantbird 04:25:42 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 04:31:37 <instantbot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com cancelled review?(benediktp@ymail.com ) for attachment 2335 on bug 1322. 04:31:38 <instantbot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested review from benediktp@ymail.com for attachment 2343 on bug 1322. 04:31:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tags should be sorted using localeCompare 04:39:45 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 04:41:45 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 04:43:11 --> sj has joined #instantbird 04:59:47 <-- spiffytech has quit (Ping timeout) 05:01:15 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 05:03:06 --> spiffytech has joined #instantbird 05:05:00 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 05:08:25 --> sj has joined #instantbird 05:12:24 <instant-buildbot> build #930 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/930 05:15:50 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 05:19:05 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 05:27:56 <-- douglaswth has quit (Ping timeout) 05:30:08 --> douglaswth has joined #instantbird 05:33:30 <-- Mook has quit (Quit: Mook) 05:34:55 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 05:40:45 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 05:42:18 <-- mpmc has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:44:40 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 05:45:15 <-- mconley has quit (Connection reset by peer) 05:45:35 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 05:46:30 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 05:47:07 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 05:47:35 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:53:32 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 05:55:14 --> jb has joined #instantbird 05:55:31 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 05:58:20 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 05:58:27 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 06:09:18 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 06:15:20 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 06:15:30 <-- sumedh has quit (Ping timeout) 06:17:29 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 06:17:44 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 06:19:28 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 06:24:06 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 06:28:27 --> wuwei has joined #instantbird 06:29:46 --> jb has joined #instantbird 06:32:06 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 06:36:17 --> sj has joined #instantbird 06:51:44 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 06:52:44 --> sj has joined #instantbird 06:53:15 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 07:00:37 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 07:05:08 <flo-retina> douglaswth: "grr! hitting ctrl-shift-T doesn't reopen a closed tab in instantbird" looks like you have found what your next add-on will do ;) 07:12:36 --> harlock has joined #instantbird 07:14:05 <-- harlock has left #instantbird (PING 1365664447) 07:15:10 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 07:17:55 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 07:23:00 --> sj has joined #instantbird 07:24:48 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 07:27:28 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2340 on bug 1100. 07:27:29 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2340 on bug 1100. 07:27:30 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2342 on bug 1100. 07:27:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 cri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Use Firefox untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors 07:28:15 --> sj has joined #instantbird 07:30:58 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/371f856510bc - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1100 - Use toolkit untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors: chat/ part, r=fqueze. 07:30:59 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/dd0e6e6e7afe - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1100 - Use Firefox untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors: instantbird/ part, r=fqueze. 07:32:42 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org set the Resolution field on bug 1100 to FIXED. 07:32:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 cri, --, 1.4, clokep, RESO FIXED, Use Firefox untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors 07:34:10 <flo-retina> clokep++ for bug 1050 and bug 1100. Two bugs that have long been in the "too difficult to fix" area that have just moved to "fixed" ;). 07:34:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 nor, --, 1.4, clokep, RESO FIXED, Take account of URL shortening in twitter character count 07:37:48 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 07:38:31 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout) 07:39:48 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 07:41:08 --> sj has joined #instantbird 07:42:27 <instant-buildbot> build #374 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/374 blamelist: Patrick Cloke <clokep@gmail.com> 07:42:59 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 07:43:33 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 07:43:52 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 07:46:26 --> sj has joined #instantbird 07:48:54 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 07:52:24 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 07:54:21 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 07:55:45 --> sj has joined #instantbird 07:59:26 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 08:11:05 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:11:06 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:18:37 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 08:21:59 --> sj has joined #instantbird 08:23:48 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 08:24:55 <-- wuwei has quit (Quit: Leaving) 08:25:25 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 08:25:55 --> Hadi has joined #instantbird 08:26:35 <Hadi> hello 08:27:05 --> sj has joined #instantbird 08:28:54 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 08:32:13 --> sj has joined #instantbird 08:34:39 --> wuwei has joined #instantbird 08:37:30 <Mic> Hi Hadi! 08:38:00 <Mic> You seem to be new here, can I help you? 08:39:31 <Hadi> hi mic, Thanks. i'm trying to make instantbird work with my proxy software (which is psiphone)... but it sounds like it can't detect it on localhost 08:39:52 <Hadi> which option should i go in options, advanced, network? 08:40:30 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 08:40:41 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: No time to waste, let's go!) 08:41:17 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 08:41:17 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 08:41:40 <Mic> Oh, proxies ... :( 08:42:13 <Hadi> yeah, im from iran and... can't make instantbird working w/ facebook it seems 08:42:25 <Mic> Even: ping 08:43:45 --> sj has joined #instantbird 08:44:25 <Mic> Hadi, please wait a while. Even seems to know a lot about proxies from what I've seen. I hope he could help. 08:44:57 <Hadi> mic, ok! thanks B) 08:46:02 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 08:46:26 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 08:51:51 --> sj has joined #instantbird 08:55:22 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 08:55:23 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 08:58:52 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 08:59:56 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 09:03:54 --> sj has joined #instantbird 09:06:34 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 09:07:26 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 09:09:48 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 09:12:10 * flo-retina has no idea of how psiphone is supposed to work :-S 09:13:38 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 09:16:55 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 09:19:39 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 09:20:08 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 09:20:29 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 09:25:18 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 09:26:53 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 09:28:41 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 09:33:48 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:37:12 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 09:40:35 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 09:41:11 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:41:11 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 09:56:27 <Mic> aleth: I hope the request for renaming that method also makes sense for you... 09:56:47 <aleth> douglaswth: want to file a bug for ctrl-shift-T ? 09:57:30 <aleth> Mic: Yes, I was actually wondering about the name when reviewing bug 260, but it seemed to be consistent with other input* stuff. Let's change it though. 09:57:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=260 min, --, 1.4, benediktp, RESO FIXED, Pasting in the conversation input box doesn't send typing notifications 09:58:59 <aleth> clokep: Thanks for bug 1100, that looked painful :) 09:59:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 cri, --, 1.4, clokep, RESO FIXED, Use Firefox untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors 10:00:17 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 10:01:53 <-- Hadi has quit (Quit: ) 10:03:17 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:03:17 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:04:41 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 10:08:01 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 10:12:03 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 10:12:05 --> sj has joined #instantbird 10:12:23 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 10:16:03 <clokep> flo-retina: Thanks. :) 1100 might need some follow ups to make the UI prettier...but I'm hoping someone else will be interested in doing that. 10:16:17 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 10:16:17 <flo-retina> clokep: I'm hoping people won't see it too often ;) 10:18:09 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 10:19:23 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 10:19:41 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 10:19:49 <clokep> Yay down to only 9 bugs assigned to me. :P 10:20:00 <clokep> Mic: Can I ping you about a review of bug 1893? ;) 10:20:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1893 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Use Javascript default parameters where applicable 10:23:01 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 10:23:43 <clokep> flo-retina: Actually, not we're not using "targetSite" and using host:port...I wonder if libpurple could return a value. Probably not though since we still wouldn't know which connection is causing the issue. 10:25:12 <flo-retina> clokep: we could likely "guess" 10:25:22 <Mic> clokep: thanks for the ping, I already sent me a memo for that. 10:25:37 <Mic> On the other hand: I had also sent myself a memo about the "good first bug" email :( 10:26:53 <clokep> Mic: Sure thing. :) 10:27:08 <clokep> flo-retina: Yeah...I guess on things like OSCAR (which open a billion connections) our guesses would not be good... 10:27:27 <Mic> The number of shades of red in #instantbird is too damn high :( 10:27:45 <EionRobb> what does a shade of red mean? 10:27:46 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 10:28:20 <Mic> EionRobb: let me take a screenshot for you... 10:28:24 <flo-retina> clokep: I don't think we would be interested in letting users add exceptions for oscar 10:28:43 <clokep> Mic: Don't you mean shades of pink? ;) 10:28:50 <flo-retina> clokep: exceptions make sense only if the users are likely to have self-installed servers with self-signed certificates 10:29:35 <aleth> Mic: it's actually convenient, that way you can quickly identify visitors ;) 10:29:49 --> sj has joined #instantbird 10:29:52 <clokep> flo-retina: That's true. :) I was just thinking of the general case. 10:30:32 <flo-retina> aleth: except you miss visitors displayed in red ;) 10:30:33 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 10:30:47 * clokep hopes aleth has fun w/ that review I gave him. ;) 10:31:05 <Mic> EionRobb: http://imgur.com/y6O5cSn 10:31:07 * clokep needs a version of Not Today! for bugzilla. :( 10:31:15 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 10:31:21 <Mic> clokep: I think we rather need log.bezut.info fixed ;) 10:31:33 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 10:31:34 <aleth> Mic: something wrong with anti-aliasing for IB on Windows? 10:31:36 <EionRobb> that's quite pink :) but I'm orange :P 10:31:46 <EionRobb> how are the colours worked out? 10:32:16 <flo-retina> is that our default font on Windows? 10:32:34 <flo-retina> EionRobb: more or less a hash of the nick 10:32:37 * Mic wonders when the wants-wrong-with-your-fonts-thing will stop when he posts screenshots. 10:32:51 <Mic> Maybe I should just stop posting screenshots ;) 10:32:54 <aleth> Mic: If it's your personal settings, that's OK :) 10:34:09 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 10:34:47 <clokep> Nothing wrong with the fonts on windows: http://i.imgur.com/XRXDX2e.png 10:34:56 <flo-retina> Mic: we are just afraid you may be having a suboptimal Ib experience due to something that would be in our control. If you inflicted that to yourself without us feeling guilty for it, that's fine :-D. 10:34:58 --> sj has joined #instantbird 10:36:34 <clokep> EionRobb: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/conversation.xml#1120 10:37:22 * aleth grumbles at AIO search 10:37:36 <EionRobb> weird 10:39:32 * clokep waits for EionRobb to file a Pidgin bug "Implement this cool color algorithm from Instantbird. ;)) 10:40:13 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 10:41:59 <-- sj has quit (Ping timeout) 10:42:14 <EionRobb> lol 10:42:22 <EionRobb> I like my Pidgin colours thankyouverymuch :P 10:42:30 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 10:42:40 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 10:45:29 <flo-retina> are they still random? :-P 10:46:26 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 10:47:09 * clokep wonders if he gets a prize if he manages to be the only one in flo's review queue. ;) 10:47:46 * flo-retina would like to know why typing a private message on Gtalk displays "0" in the status bar if the textbox isn't empty 10:48:04 <Mic> clokep: if you'd be willing to share that prize, you could ask the others to cancel their review requests? ;) 10:48:42 <clokep> flo-retina: Sounds like a bug from my recent patch. 10:49:03 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:49:18 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:49:18 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:49:41 <clokep> Needed to update. ;) 10:49:54 <Mic> Cool :) 10:50:04 <Mic> Finally we can post link on Twitter :) 10:50:06 <Mic> *links 10:50:38 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 10:50:50 * aleth updates 10:50:56 <clokep> flo-retina: Patch coming up. 10:51:04 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 10:51:12 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:51:12 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 10:51:33 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 10:51:37 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:51:37 * ChanServ sets mode +h aleth 10:52:12 <clokep> flo-retina: Does XMPP have a typing limit? 10:53:24 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 10:53:29 <flo-retina> clokep: certainly not of 0 characters ;) 10:53:42 <clokep> flo-retina: That wasn't my question. 10:53:57 <clokep> The protocol in general. 10:53:58 <clokep> Does it have a message limit. 10:54:18 <flo-retina> there's likely a limit, but it's high enough that I don't know it 10:54:48 <clokep> OK. :) 10:54:56 <clokep> (It probably includes all the XML too. :() 10:56:15 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2344 on bug 1050. 10:56:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 nor, --, 1.4, clokep, RESO FIXED, Take account of URL shortening in twitter character count 10:56:32 <clokep> flo-retina: Good catch. 10:59:02 --> jb has joined #instantbird 11:05:15 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:05:53 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2344 on bug 1050. 11:05:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 nor, --, 1.4, clokep, RESO FIXED, Take account of URL shortening in twitter character count 11:11:12 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/98138c9392e5 - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1050 - Take account of URL shortening in twitter character count - follow-up to fix XMPP, r=fqueze. 11:19:40 --> sumedh has joined #instantbird 11:20:59 <instant-buildbot> build #375 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/375 blamelist: Patrick Cloke <clokep@gmail.com> 11:23:51 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 11:27:11 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 11:33:47 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from benediktp@ymail.com for attachment 2345 on bug 1891. 11:33:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1891 min, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Tab completion does not always update the character counter 11:39:57 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 11:43:21 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: No time to waste, let's go!) 11:47:19 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 11:51:11 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 11:54:33 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:54:33 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:01:16 <-- sumedh has quit (Ping timeout) 12:14:29 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 12:19:52 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 12:27:20 <-- sabret00the has quit (Ping timeout) 12:31:54 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 12:34:30 --> Kaishi has joined #instantbird 12:35:18 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 12:40:50 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 12:41:19 <-- mikk_s has quit (Ping timeout) 12:41:35 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 12:44:25 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 12:49:14 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 12:51:21 <flo-retina> I wonder if there was anything actionable in bug 1622 12:51:24 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1622 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Filter/sort list of participants by activity 12:51:54 --> sabret00the has joined #instantbird 12:53:59 --> jb has joined #instantbird 12:54:22 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I've though before that we should move them to the top of the participants list, personally. 12:54:45 * clokep_work wonders how easy taht would be to dogfood in an extension. 12:54:59 <flo-retina> clokep_work: do you mean you agree with the request? 12:56:01 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection reset by peer) 12:56:54 <aleth> clokep_work: I think it's more subtle than that, but I agree it is something we could do better. Not sure about the solution though 13:08:17 <clokep_work> flo-retina: "agree with the request"? What? 13:08:30 <clokep_work> aleth: What's more subtle? 13:09:11 <flo-retina> clokep_work: My understanding of the request in that bug is basically "active participants should be more visible; they are currently lost in the middle of hundreds of inactive participants" 13:09:25 <aleth> clokep_work: Moving them all to the top "solves" one problem and introduces others. 13:09:50 <clokep_work> aleth: What problem does it introduce? (I think I know, but I'd prefer to hear what you're thinking.) 13:10:04 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Ah, It could be nice sometimes, I personally don't really go into rooms where it's necessary. 13:10:38 * clokep_work doesn't think we should worry about this for 1.4. ;) 13:11:40 <aleth> clokep_work: Breaks alphabetical order and the limited search we currently have, breaks visual memory for finding nicks in not-overly-full channels like this one, makes it harder for individual nicks to be readable as they are now stuck in a sea of colour (there may be others) 13:13:13 <aleth> We've said before it might help to think more carefully about what the nicklist is actually used for before coming up with a solution. 13:14:12 <clokep_work> aleth: We've also discussed allowing different sortings... 13:15:07 <aleth> clokep_work: Maybe, I just doubt sort is the answer to the underlying problems. 13:16:36 * wuwei is now known as wuwei`lab 13:16:45 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I didn't mean to imply it was an 1.4 concern 13:17:04 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I was just looking through an old list of emails I starred because I believed at the time that they deserved an answer 13:17:11 <flo-retina> and the bugmail for that bug was in that list 13:18:16 <flo-retina> I started looking at the regression of the scroll position in the account manager the other day. Couldn't find a clean fix. The best I found was adding a setTimeout, but that makes the selection flicker when the window is opened :( 13:22:03 <clokep_work> aleth: What do you think the underlying problem is then? 13:22:20 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Fair enough. ;) When are we looking to release anyway? We'll have to give localizers 2 weeks notice... 13:22:22 <-- wuwei`lab has quit (Quit: Leaving) 13:22:31 --> wuwei`lab has joined #instantbird 13:22:33 <flo-retina> :( 13:23:20 <flo-retina> so twitter will start sucking more on May 7th, right? 13:24:11 <-- wuwei`lab has quit (Quit: Leaving) 13:24:16 --> wuwei`lab has joined #instantbird 13:25:06 --> wuwei has joined #instantbird 13:26:07 <clokep_work> Start sucking more? How so? :-/ 13:26:12 <clokep_work> (Did I miss a blog post? :P) 13:26:40 <flo-retina> clokep_work: retiring v1.0 API ;) 13:27:01 <flo-retina> clokep_work: The v1.0 API didn't have any limit in the number of auth tokens per key 13:27:18 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Ah. What is the limit in v1.1? 13:29:36 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I think it's max(100,000, <count of auth tokens delivered for your key before the limit was announced> * 2) 13:29:56 <-- wuwei has quit (Quit: Leaving) 13:31:05 <flo-retina> I'm wondering if we shouldn't string freeze 'nowish' :( 13:31:30 <-- jb has quit (Connection reset by peer) 13:31:32 --> jb1 has joined #instantbird 13:33:59 <clokep_work> Is anything on our 1.4 list have strings? 13:36:43 * clokep_work wonders if someone should complete bug 1741... 13:36:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1741 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Remove strings that became obsolete because of bug 435 (hide "Show custom smilies"-option) 13:36:56 <clokep_work> (Seems like it would take all of 5 minutes.) 13:37:42 <flo-retina> clokep_work: SIPE? 13:37:58 <clokep_work> flo-retina: And bug 1612, if we wanted to take that. 13:38:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1612 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update libpurple up to 2.10.7 13:38:05 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Is SIPE really a reasonable thing at this point? 13:38:55 <flo-retina> clokep_work: isn't it self-contained? 13:39:15 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Should be. :) 13:40:57 <flo-retina> clokep_work: so worst cases would be "very crashy for the users who try it" or "doesn't work at all" 13:42:20 <clokep_work> flo-retina: We could also always remove it from the list of things compiled right before release, right? 13:42:59 <flo-retina> yeah 13:46:03 <-- Even has quit (Input/output error) 13:47:18 <flo-retina> Looks like the best days for releases would be April 29-30. Which means we should string freeze either this week-end, or Monday. 13:50:26 <clokep_work> Am I missing something or does http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/a32aa1734fd8 already do what bug 435 asks for? 13:50:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=435 min, --, 1.3, benediktp, RESO FIXED, Hide "Show custom smilies"-option for libpurple XMPP and MSN and make it default to false 13:50:31 <clokep_work> Oops what bug 1741 asks for? 13:50:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1741 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Remove strings that became obsolete because of bug 435 (hide "Show custom smilies"-option) 13:51:43 <clokep_work> Ohhhhhhhhhh. 13:51:45 <clokep_work> It's for l10n. 13:51:46 <clokep_work> Got it. :) 13:51:54 <flo-retina> doesn't block string freeze :) 13:51:58 <flo-retina> it's for new locales 13:52:39 <flo-retina> and the "fix" is already included as part for bug 1612 13:52:42 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1612 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update libpurple up to 2.10.7 13:52:56 <clokep_work> Oh cool. :) 13:55:58 <flo-retina> not sure if we should try to separate to have 2 clear commits in the l10n repo, or if we just don't care 13:56:16 <flo-retina> I guess that will be a decision mostly based on laziness, as it doesn't matter much ^^ 13:58:05 <aleth> clokep_work: I'm confused, whats' the problem bug 1370 is solving? It's not clear from the bug and I don't remember... 13:58:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370 tri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Fix JS-IRC's usage of normalizedChatBuddy getter 13:58:51 <aleth> ie. why is it a problem if getNormalizedChatBuddyName returns a normalize()d name? 13:59:15 <clokep_work> aleth: The problem is that it's not properly normalizing it for the filesystem, etc. to do that it shoudl use the jsProtoHelper implementation. 13:59:47 <-- Kaishi has quit (Quit: Kaishi) 13:59:52 <aleth> "for the filesystem" you mean for log files? 13:59:57 <clokep_work> aleth: Yes. 14:00:14 <clokep_work> I think, at least. 14:01:18 <aleth> So after your patch, old log files may not be findable? 14:01:32 <clokep_work> aleth: I doubt it. 14:01:49 <clokep_work> aleth: 14:01:50 <clokep_work> Sorry... 14:01:54 <clokep_work> What I just said is totally wrong. 14:02:57 <clokep_work> aleth: So I believe the bug this is fixing (which is incredibly stupid, mind you) is that if we normalize first...new private chats are made with the wrong capitalization. 14:03:01 <clokep_work> We're just abusing an API for the total wrong thing. 14:04:38 <aleth> So the bug is fixing something that for IRC we have to take care of anyway (and do) 14:04:50 <clokep_work> aleth: No. 14:05:01 <clokep_work> aleth: It should fix the issue with the capitalization flashing when you start a new chat. 14:05:16 <clokep_work> (From the participant of a MUC) 14:05:30 <aleth> clokep_work: I don't see any capitalization flashing? 14:05:31 <clokep_work> I think. 14:05:44 <clokep_work> aleth: My nick is all lowercase. 14:05:48 <aleth> (I just tried /msg cLoKeP_WORK test) 14:06:01 <clokep_work> Maybe you've received my whois info already. 14:06:24 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 14:07:48 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 14:09:06 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 14:09:42 <-- clokep_work has quit (Input/output error) 14:11:04 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 14:11:04 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 14:11:46 <clokep_work> aleth: I don't remember exactly why we needed it, but I thought that was the reasoning. 14:12:14 <clokep_work> aleth: I can easily reproduce the capitalization flash. 14:13:45 <clokep_work> aleth: But only once for each person, which makes me think once we get whois info we're good. 14:13:47 <aleth> clokep_work: You will always get a capitalization flash if the whois info is not available and the capitalization is wrong. Am I missing something? 14:13:57 <aleth> I don't see how this bug changes that. 14:14:10 <clokep_work> aleth: It changes it for double clicking on someone in a participants list. 14:14:21 <clokep_work> I think it does, at least. 14:16:01 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.3 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:19:18 <clokep_work> aleth: If it doesn't seem to be working at all, leave it and I'll look again when I'm home. 14:19:35 <clokep_work> It unfortunately became a "Our whois code is kind of a mess, let's clean it up a bit" patch. :( 14:19:49 <aleth> clokep_work: I haven't got that far yet ;) Still at the "trying to understand the problem" stage... 14:21:17 <flo-retina> aleth: "You will always get a capitalization flash if the whois info is not available and the capitalization is wrong." my understanding is that the point of the patch is to not get the capitalization wrong in the common case (ie a double click on a participant). 14:21:26 <-- jb1 has quit (Connection reset by peer) 14:21:56 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes, exactly! Sorry if that wasn't clear. :( 14:22:37 --> jb has joined #instantbird 14:22:38 <flo-retina> clokep_work: it was clear for me, but possibly only because I have an existing understanding of getNormalizedChatBuddyName's intended use case ;). 14:22:58 <aleth> flo-retina: Right, OK. I'm just surprised I can't seem to reproduce that flash... 14:23:10 <aleth> I know I used to see it, a long time ago. 14:23:17 <flo-retina> aleth: you need to double click quickly (before the tooltip opens) 14:23:46 <flo-retina> maybe try by selecting another nick, when use the down arrow and press enter (to start a private conversation with someone without hovering the nick) 14:24:03 <aleth> flo-retina: Tried that. I suspect it depends on the speed of the server too. 14:24:09 <aleth> Ah! it worked with the keyboard :) 14:24:18 <flo-retina> and of the connection I guess :) 14:25:04 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 14:25:55 <clokep_work> aleth: That flash has always bothered me, I'm trying to get rid of it. 14:26:32 <flo-retina> clokep_work: oh, you are scratching your own itches now? Great :) 14:26:47 <aleth> clokep_work: Sure, lets get rid of it if we can :D 14:27:05 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Sure, not everything I do is for random other people... *cough* bug 1100 *cough* 14:27:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 cri, --, 1.4, clokep, RESO FIXED, Use Firefox untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors 14:27:11 <flo-retina> clokep_work: you may want to consider changing the summary of that bug ;) 14:27:30 <flo-retina> (wasn't talking about 1100) 14:28:51 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 14:29:41 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Done. 14:31:06 <flo-retina> thanks :) 14:37:21 <flo-retina> I was wondering earlier today: is there any reason why system messages have bubbles and a white background? 14:37:41 <flo-retina> wouldn't Bubble look lighter if those messages looked like the time intervals between bubbles? 14:39:30 <aleth> Interesting idea - try it and see? :) 14:39:43 <aleth> I guess some system messages are more message-like than others? 14:39:52 <aleth> Can we distinguish? 14:41:31 <flo-retina> aleth: I think that would also be a nice opportunity to get rid of double-bubbles caused by show-nick :) 14:42:04 <aleth> flo-retina: They don't bother me much with the styling I have in Fitted-Bubbles-Light ;) 14:44:47 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 14:48:10 <clokep_work> "double-bubbles? 14:48:14 <clokep_work> Bubble Bobble? 14:48:15 <clokep_work> What? 14:50:12 <flo-retina> hmm https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=845546#c22 nice way to handle failing tests :) 14:51:23 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I'm saying http://i1.minus.com/ibbDysPfevfW8a.png is ugly 14:53:42 <flo-retina> landing with broken tests filed as new intermittent failures (c22) and without appropriate reviews (c24 to 27). wow. 14:54:10 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yeah. :( Is that related to your work or just interested in the feature? 14:54:26 <flo-retina> Do you think I have personal interest in Persona? 14:54:47 * clokep_work hides. 14:55:36 <aleth> c29 is also, umm. 14:55:58 <flo-retina> aleth: you can go ahead and read the beginning of 30 14:56:17 <flo-retina> aleth: "using remote content for all the UI here. This is going to be fairly frequently used (we hope!), but places UI responsiveness at the mercy of the network/server. Which somewhat contrary to other efforts to improve snappyness / responsiveness." 14:56:57 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 14:57:30 <aleth> Ouch. 14:58:57 <aleth> I don't think that's what "integrate into the browser" was supposed to mean... 14:59:11 <flo-retina> aleth: ... 14:59:20 <flo-retina> aleth: I'm pretty sure you know what I think of it ;) 14:59:27 <aleth> ;) 15:00:45 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 15:03:34 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 15:07:36 <aleth> "You shouldn't be landing debugging dump()s. ... Remove commented out code"... I guess that code just wasn't reviewed at all. 15:09:06 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 15:12:47 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 15:13:25 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 15:13:59 <clokep_work> Hey mconley, do you know what timezone atuljangra is in? 15:14:22 <mconley> clokep_work: he's in a major city in India - I can't remember which... 15:14:38 <clokep_work> mconley: Close enough for me (aka he's "on the opposite side of the world) 15:14:45 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 15:14:45 <mconley> :) 15:17:08 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:30:31 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 15:30:53 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 15:36:03 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2341 on bug 1370. 15:36:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370 tri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Avoid flashing the wrong case when double clicking on a participant with JS-IRC 15:36:23 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 15:36:55 <clokep_work> aleth: I was planning to file a "Replace everything in IRC with Maps and Sets bug" FYI, I wasn't sure if it would make sense to do in there, but OK! 15:37:35 <aleth> clokep_work: if you are going to replace "everything" it might make more sense in a separate bug, yes ;) 15:38:12 <-- deltafalcon has quit (Connection reset by peer) 15:44:07 <clokep_work> aleth: So I can ignore that comment if I file a followup? 15:44:14 <aleth> clokep_work: Yes 15:44:32 <clokep_work> I figured youd' ask for a better idl comment. ;) 15:44:34 <clokep_work> Should have just done that. 15:44:49 <aleth> (about whoisInformation, I think changing _observedNicks in that bug would be better than adding comments) 15:47:42 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Ciao) 15:49:27 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 15:56:57 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 16:18:33 <flo-retina> aleth: what could go wrong when landing an unreviewed 140kB patch? :) 16:19:12 <-- mconley has quit (Input/output error) 16:19:35 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 16:23:33 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 16:27:05 --> Optimizer has joined #instantbird 16:31:02 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 16:31:45 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:31:46 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 16:35:33 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 16:37:44 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 16:41:05 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 16:43:16 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 16:47:55 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:47:56 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 16:51:02 <-- flo-retina has quit (Input/output error) 16:51:03 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:51:03 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 16:56:31 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:57:17 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 17:34:31 <clokep_work> Kind of neat stuff: http://about.jabbr.net/ 17:34:36 <-- mpmc has quit (Ping timeout) 17:43:57 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 17:58:20 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 18:02:43 --> jhk has joined #instantbird 18:11:12 <-- jb has quit (Ping timeout) 18:38:54 <-- jhk has quit (Ping timeout) 18:39:43 <-- Optimizer has quit (Ping timeout) 18:56:36 <-- mpmc has quit (Client exited) 19:49:37 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 19:49:38 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 19:51:25 <flo-retina> my third bonjour crash this week: http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/index/7c20fe46-7be4-49f0-804f-d7fc82130411 :( 19:53:06 --> Mic has joined #instantbird 19:53:07 * ChanServ sets mode +h Mic 20:14:25 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I sstill crash 90% of shutdowns. :\ 20:15:52 <flo-retina> clokep_work: is there a bug on file? 20:15:59 <flo-retina> is it something you want to fix before 1.4? 20:17:29 <-- Mic has quit (Quit: No time to waste, let's go!) 20:20:15 <clokep_work> flo-retina: There isn't. :( 20:20:18 <clokep_work> I should file one. 20:22:32 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 1923 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 20:22:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1923 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, /ba doesn't work as a command, even though it is unambiguous for /back 20:22:38 <flo-retina> otherwise I would feel bad asking others to file their bugs ;) 20:22:54 <clokep_work> flo-retina: http://crash-stats.instantbird.com/report/list?product=Instantbird&version=Instantbird%3A1.4a1pre&platform=windows&query_search=signature&query_type=exact&query=&date=&range_value=1&range_unit=weeks&process_type=all&plugin_field=&plugin_query_type=&plugin_query=&do_query=1&signature=msvcr100.dll%400x28ec 20:23:40 <clokep_work> That's the crash I keep getting, I think 20:24:35 <instantbot> New Core - General bug 1924 filed by florian@instantbird.org. 20:24:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1924 cri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Bonjour crashes when on unreliable wifi connections 20:25:07 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I think I gave you hints of how you could start debugging it 20:25:17 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Adding "debugger" didn't do anything. 20:26:38 <flo-retina> really? 20:26:52 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Either that or it never reached the line of code where I put it. 20:27:10 <clokep_work> Anyway, i Need to get going for a bit. I'll try again soon. (And I'll file a bug. ;)) 20:27:32 * clokep_work foo 20:27:52 <flo-retina> can you intercept the crash in the MSVS debugger? 20:28:00 <-- clokep_work has quit (Input/output error) 20:28:38 <flo-retina> if you can, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Debugging_Mozilla_on_Windows_FAQ#Debugging_JavaScript seems useful 20:52:43 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 21:12:31 --> Even has joined #instantbird 21:12:32 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 21:23:54 <flo-retina> clokep will be glad to know he avoided a third mozillians email on the CEO topic ;) 21:27:25 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout) 21:27:35 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 21:27:35 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 21:29:57 <Mook_as> it would be nicer if they actually used their own names in from: or mentioned it at the start of the mail... 21:36:39 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout) 21:50:46 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 21:51:04 <flo-retina> Mook_as: is "they" Mitchell in this case? 21:52:02 <Mook_as> haven't read the third yet, just the first two, so Mitchell and Kovacs 22:01:22 <flo-retina> third is Mitchell 22:05:03 <-- Even has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.4a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:27:41 <-- dew has quit (Ping timeout) 22:32:48 --> dew has joined #instantbird 23:10:08 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:10:08 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 23:10:21 <flo-retina> I'm surprised by startssl.com's verifications 23:10:34 <flo-retina> it seems they actually do verify people's identity! 23:11:27 * flo-retina is in the process of renewing the SSL certificate for *.ib.org (it expires soon) 23:22:54 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout) 23:28:21 <flo-retina> SSL cert has been replaced on one server 23:28:27 <flo-retina> will take care of the other 2 tomorrow 23:28:42 <flo-retina> the new cert is visible on BIO 23:32:06 <flo-retina> http://queze.net/goinfre/ssl-cert-before-after.png 23:32:41 <-- gerard-majax__ has quit (Ping timeout) 23:44:34 --> gerard-majax__ has joined #instantbird 23:51:36 <instant-buildbot> build #397 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/397