#instantbird log on 04 10 2013

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00:31:03 <sj> Hello! Anyone around?
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00:48:10 <clokep> sj: One second.
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00:52:27 <clokep> sj: What's up?
00:55:16 <sj> Hello cloke. I have been lurking around the whole day on the wrong server. This feels good. And Thunderbird is great,  less than 80 MB of RAM with irc, gmail, and hopefully Skype integrated is epic. 
00:56:38 <sj> On another note, I have been trying to compile #instantbird. But it is taking tons of time. I have already restarted the whole thing twice since it seemed to be just stuck. How big is Mozilla source code?
00:57:10 <clokep> sj: That depends on a lot.
00:57:13 <clokep> My computer takes about an hour.
00:57:16 <clokep> Windows is slower.
00:57:20 <clokep> Depends on the number of cores, etc.
00:57:49 <clokep> Sorry about that, was on the phone.
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01:13:51 <clokep1> dew: I don't do anything important. :P
01:20:38 <clokep1> sj: Let me know if you have any questions. I'll be in and out though.
01:25:49 <sj> Should I email or wait for you on irc if I have something to ask?
01:26:04 <clokep1> sj: If I'm online feel free to ping me, I'll see it.
01:26:15 <clokep1> If not...some of us read the logs, but email works too. :)
01:26:46 <sj> Thanks a ton, clokep. That is much appreciated.
01:27:27 <clokep1> sj: Sure, sure. Are you just interested or are you a GSoC student?
01:28:11 <sj> I am a GSoC student, Salman here. I have been in contact with you.
01:28:29 <clokep1> Ah OK! :) It's tough to guess people's nicks!
01:28:49 <EionRobb> yes
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01:33:04 <EionRobb> :P
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06:59:24 <instantbot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested feedback from florian@instantbi rd.org for attachment 2334 on bug 1322.
06:59:26 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tags should be sorted using localeCompare
07:04:09 <instantbot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com cancelled feedback?(florian@instantbi rd.org) for attachment 2334 on bug 1322.
07:04:10 <instantbot> jigneshhk1992@gmail.com requested feedback from florian@instantbi rd.org for attachment 2335 on bug 1322.
07:04:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tags should be sorted using localeCompare
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07:38:07 <Mic> flo-retina: if you'd like I'd take over the "review" in bug 1322
07:38:11 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tags should be sorted using localeCompare
07:39:06 <flo-retina> Mic: go ahead :)
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09:16:46 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org requested review from benediktp@ymail.com  for attachment 2335 on bug 1322.
09:16:47 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted feedback for attachment 2335 on bug 1322.
09:16:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1322 tri, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Tags should be sorted using localeCompare
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09:25:43 <Mic> I'm just writing a comment for this :(
09:26:25 <flo-retina> what's the problem? I passed the review flag to you, you can write as many comments as you like :)
09:26:51 <Mic> Ah! I hadn't looked at that yet. I thought we had duplicated our work here :)
09:27:04 <Mic> Nevermind then ;)
09:27:31 <flo-retina> well, I did look at the patch
09:27:39 <flo-retina> but not more than I would for a patch in the checkin-needed queue
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09:37:01 <flo-retina> I wonder if the Michael in comment 34 of bug 958 is someone I've already met.
09:37:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=958 enh, --, ---, benediktp, ASSI, Show last messages (history) in new chat windows
09:41:37 <flo-retina> arg, that 'message to the mailing list' that nobody has replied to yet was actually sent to flo@ib.org :(
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10:22:05 <clokep> Does aStr.toLowerCase() work with accented characters, etc.?
10:22:24 <aleth> You might want toLocaleLowerCase()
10:22:57 * clokep knows nothing about localization. ;)
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10:25:57 <flo-retina> ah, I hadn't noticed he hadn't removed the { }
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10:36:02 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org denied review for attachment 2333 on bug 1652.
10:36:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1652 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, [a11y] Tooltips are missing in log viewer
10:36:32 * flo-retina hopes aleth will forgive him if the tone of his review comment in that bug is a bit aggressive :-S
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10:51:50 <flo-retina> "not every feature of a program is going to be listed on the website. Additionally, a lot of enjoying a program is how it feels, which can't accurately be described in text." Very nice sentence. clokep++ :)
10:52:27 <clokep> flo-retina: Thanks.
10:52:47 <flo-retina> clokep: websites usually forget to list all the misfeatures anyway ;).
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10:59:19 <aleth> flo-retina: It's OK, the bit in all caps is actually a code comment, after all ;)
10:59:54 <aleth> flo-retina: I'm sorry, I knew when I wrote my previous comment that I was confused about something, but I couldn't put my finger on it. So thanks for clearing that up.
11:00:44 <flo-retina> |"ÇÉÀÈÊË".toLowerCase()| returns "çéàèêë"
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11:01:16 <flo-retina> so I'm not sure what toLocaleLowerCase does.
11:01:41 <aleth> Unicode?
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11:02:11 <aleth> Ah, "for some locales, such as Turkish, whose case mappings do not follow the default case mappings in Unicode, there may be a different result."
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11:47:17 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2336 on bug 1652.
11:47:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1652 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, [a11y] Tooltips are missing in log viewer
11:51:20 * aleth likes today's xkcd
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12:01:07 <clokep_work> I think that email that just went to the pidgin devel list applies to us too. :(
12:03:30 <clokep_work> (Presence for non-buddies.)
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12:09:47 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from benediktp@ymail.com  for attachment 2337 on bug 1891.
12:09:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1891 min, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Tab completion does not always update the character counter
12:12:53 <aleth> clokep_work: Hasn't this been known for a long time? We have a bug for it which I understood to mean to fix it at least for js-protos
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12:13:52 <clokep_work> aleth: I didn't know it was an issue.
12:15:31 <aleth> Ah, the bug is IRC-specific at least in the title.
12:15:40 <aleth> bug 613
12:15:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=613 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Presence information for IRC private messages from people not on the buddy list
12:16:22 <clokep_work> aleth: I thought that didn't need changes in "core", but it does.
12:16:32 <clokep_work> We make assumptions that account buddies are on the buddy list, etc.
12:16:46 <aleth> clokep_work: If it didn't I think I would have fixed it last time I looked at it :-S
12:18:27 <clokep_work> aleth: Ah. :(
12:18:57 <clokep_work> The thing htat isn't clear to me is...what changes we would even need to make in core. I really don't have a great handle on how prpliaccountbuddies interact w/ core. :(
12:19:20 <aleth> clokep_work: Argh, my editor doesn't seem to currently remove trailing whitespace for xml files. Thanks for the heads-up
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12:20:54 <clokep_work> np.
12:20:57 <aleth> clokep_work: Nor do I :(
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12:23:15 * clokep_work wonders if flo-retina would have any ideas.
12:23:21 <clokep_work> That's a bug I'd really like to see fixed for 1.5 btw.
12:24:05 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled review?(benediktp@ymail.com ) for attachment 2337 on bug 1891.
12:24:06 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org requested review from benediktp@ymail.com  for attachment 2338 on bug 1891.
12:24:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1891 min, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Tab completion does not always update the character counter
12:24:37 <aleth> clokep_work: That one and the one with one nick on two accounts...
12:25:14 <aleth> Though that probably only needs IRC changes.
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12:32:09 <aleth> Good news - about:memory will soon support JSON export and (consequently) memory report diffs :)
12:32:52 <aleth> Actually it looks like it's already in the nightly :) http://blog.mozilla.org/nnethercote/2013/04/10/gzipped-json-is-now-the-preferred-format-for-attaching-memory-report-data-to-bugs/
12:33:57 <clokep_work> aleth: The one w/ one nick on two accounts I /think/ is easy.
12:34:26 <clokep_work> (I think we just have to add @<server> afterward.)
12:34:34 <clokep_work> I'd be willing to review that if you're willing to try it. ;)
12:34:49 <aleth> clokep_work: Right, but where to minimally make that change, I think I got quite confused last time ;)
12:36:10 <aleth> (looking at the discussion in the bug)
12:36:24 <aleth> I should probably look at it again and see if things have improved on my end :P
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12:41:01 <clokep_work> aleth: Sounds like something you could have asked about. ;)
12:41:22 <aleth> clokep_work: When you are confused, you don't know which question needs asking...
12:42:19 <clokep_work> aleth: Somewhere along the lines of http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/protocols/irc/irc.js#679 or redefining the getter at http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/chat/modules/jsProtoHelper.jsm#192
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12:46:09 <aleth> clokep_work: I'm worried about compatibility with existing buddies.
12:46:59 <aleth> Also, wouldn't you want the userName to stay as it is, and only change the normalizedName?
12:47:17 <aleth> (So as not to display the ...@server in the buddy list)
12:48:25 <clokep_work> aleth: It depends where it gets the display name from, but yes.
12:48:34 <clokep_work> (Don't get me started on normalizedName.
12:48:37 <clokep_work> )
12:48:49 <clokep_work> And compatibility with existing buddies is an "issue" that we have to look at, yes.
12:48:54 <aleth> clokep_work: OK, I won't remind you about the normalized* bug then ;)
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12:50:36 <clokep_work> aleth: I'm mostly annoyed by that though because the behavior is apparently undefined. No one seems to know what they're supposed to mean. :(
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12:53:02 <clokep_work> aleth: I'm also still confused about bug 1370.
12:53:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1370 tri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Fix JS-IRC's usage of normalizedChatBuddy getter
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13:06:04 <flo-retina> can't we mark the normalized* as INVALID just to not have to look there again? :)
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13:07:15 <clokep_work> I wish! :(
13:07:42 <flo-retina> I don't see what the problem is with presence
13:07:47 <flo-retina> or how it's something that we need to worry about
13:07:59 <flo-retina> it just looks to me like something anybody could just fix
13:08:12 <flo-retina> but maybe I'm missing something
13:09:51 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I couldn't get it to work for IRC and got lost in the maze of interfaces we have around buddies.
13:10:08 <aleth> clokep_work: "I'm mostly annoyed by that though because the behavior is apparently undefined. No one seems to know what they're supposed to mean." Yeah, that's kind of the problem, and so bugs that touch the vicinity of normalizedAnything stay unfixed for longer...
13:10:09 <clokep_work> I think there's inherent assumptions abou tthings I don't realize.
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13:10:34 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I think you got lost because you were looking for something that doesn't exist.
13:10:39 <aleth> "got lost in the maze of interfaces we have around buddies" describes it quite well :-/
13:10:50 <flo-retina> the fact that it doesn't exist is the very reason why you want to fix it ;).
13:11:42 <flo-retina> aleth: suggestions to make that mess less confusing are welcome
13:11:58 <flo-retina> aleth: I get lost each time I touch something related to aliases and tags :(
13:12:35 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Maybe, I just have no knowledge of how things interact with the buddy list (and the database we have) so it's a high barrier of knowledge for me to touch things around that.
13:13:55 <clokep_work> Maybe I'll look at it again after the rest of my queue is cleared out.
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13:15:18 <flo-retina> clokep_work: this looks like a request for better documentation ;)
13:16:24 <flo-retina> clokep_work: on the other hand, if you have managed to go as far as you are with a prpl implementation that has buddies without having to understand how the database works, it may be an indication that it's not so bad after all :).
13:16:36 <flo-retina> clokep_work: things that really don't work force us to look into them sooner than later ;)
13:20:13 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes, it is. As I requested (multiple times, I think?) in bug 1454.
13:20:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1454 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, normalizedName for JS-IRC is wrong
13:20:30 <clokep_work> Hm...apparently I only request it once.
13:20:33 <clokep_work> In the bug at least.
13:20:44 <aleth> Yes. that's the one I was thinking of above.
13:21:38 <flo-retina> they are all mostly the same thing
13:22:19 <flo-retina> ie "generate a string that can be used to check for duplicates, and that is suitable to be used a as folder name for log storage purpose (no special chars...)"
13:22:41 <flo-retina> the only crazy exception is prplIConvChat.getNormalizedChatBuddyName
13:25:06 <clokep_work> Which is used to generate a name to start chats w/?
13:25:24 <flo-retina> none?
13:25:29 <flo-retina> (or I don't understand the question)
13:26:29 <flo-retina> generating a name to send to the server to start a chat looks like something done inside the prpl and that is entirely up to the prpl (ie the core doesn't need to know it happens)
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13:29:39 <clokep_work> flo-retina: My question was "prplIConvChat.getNormalizedChatBuddyName is what is used to generate a name to start chats w/?"
13:31:37 <flo-retina> to start a private conversation with a participant of a MUC, yes
13:34:06 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from aleth@instantbird.o rg for attachment 2339 on bug 1050.
13:34:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Take account of URL shortening in twitter character count
13:35:48 <instantbot> florian@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2336 on bug 1652.
13:35:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1652 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, [a11y] Tooltips are missing in log viewer
13:38:50 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org granted review for attachment 2339 on bug 1050.
13:38:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Take account of URL shortening in twitter character count
13:41:10 <clokep_work> Yay bugs getting fixed. :P
13:42:29 <aleth> Mic: I wonder if the twitter library we are now including may help you with bug 1728
13:42:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1728 enh, --, ---, benediktp, NEW, Show mentions of tracked keywords in own conversations
13:43:47 <flo-retina> hmm http://identity.mozilla.com/post/47541633049/persona-beta-2
13:44:14 <flo-retina> their second example is a former mozilla employee :-S
13:47:09 <clokep_work> I still only think Persona will be cool if it's integrated into Firefox. :(
13:48:42 <flo-retina> hmm https://hacks.mozilla.org/2013/04/persona-beta-2-launch/comment-page-1/#comment-2133410
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13:53:40 <clokep_work> flo-retina: The first comment includes the issue you have, changing your email account, right?
13:53:58 <flo-retina> and remembering which email I used for each website
13:54:08 <flo-retina> when the persona sign-in dialog always looks the same ;)
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13:57:39 <aleth> clokep_work: "This year we hope to launch native Firefox support", apparently
13:58:25 <clokep_work> Ah...
13:58:35 <clokep_work> This year still has 8 months left in it. ;)
14:01:49 <flo-retina> only 8? :(
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14:57:35 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org cancelled feedback?(benediktp@ymail.c om) for attachment 2328 on bug 1921.
14:57:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1921 enh, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Don't show excessively long backlog when restoring from hold
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15:07:21 <clokep_work> aleth: Did you receive enough feedback for that then?
15:08:36 <aleth> clokep_work: No, I've decided it's an ugly stopgap and it could be done better ;) (though not for 1.4 I guess)
15:09:18 <flo-retina> was my IRC feedback that discouraging? ;)
15:09:42 <aleth> flo-retina: no, nothing to do with that (other than agreement)
15:09:55 <flo-retina> :)
15:09:58 <aleth> I think Mic is right that the feature as it is in the WIP should be an add-on
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15:17:42 <clokep_work> aleth: Fair enough. :)
15:17:46 <clokep_work> Does that mean the bug is WONTFIX? :P
15:17:57 <aleth> more like BETTERFIX ;)
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15:50:53 <clokep_work> dew: Did you Tweet @ me last night?
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16:30:18 <Mook_as> hmm, is there /stalk support for IRC?
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16:35:24 <qheaden> clokep_work: ping
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16:57:02 <clokep_work> qheaden: PONG
16:57:08 <clokep_work> Mook_as: No, but gerv asked for it.
16:57:26 <clokep_work> Mook_as: I've asserted it shouldn't be part of IRC, but part of the abstracted stuff. I think flo disagrees.
16:57:32 <clokep_work> Otherwise I would have done it already. :)
16:57:46 * clokep_work is glad you called it stalk. ;)
16:57:50 <clokep_work> Everyone else thinks that's weird. :P
16:58:05 <Mook_as> well, I used it in chatzilla... :p
16:58:15 <clokep_work> Exactly!
16:58:26 <clokep_work> Mook_as: bug 1699
16:58:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1699 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add "Stalked Keywords" option to IRC
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16:59:28 <Mook_as> now that I read it again, wait, that wasn't what I wanted :p
17:00:03 <Mook_as> (I actually want "notify me when person X is online")
17:00:17 <flo-retina> clokep_work: "Mook_as: I've asserted it shouldn't be part of IRC, but part of the abstracted stuff. I think flo disagrees." what's /stalk?
17:00:40 <Mook_as> /stalk is watched keywords
17:00:49 <flo-retina> Mook_as: is that Pidgin's Buddy Pounce feature?
17:01:00 <flo-retina> I think we've had that in our "wanted add-ons" list for years
17:01:02 <clokep_work> What Mook_as actually wants it Pidgin's Buddy Pounce, yes.
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17:01:26 <flo-retina> I think we could easily do that much better than Pidgin's full of checkboxes implementation
17:02:07 <Mook_as> in my case, this person isn't in my buddy list... I mean, my buddy list has no actual person in it, this is purely an IRC client
17:02:54 <flo-retina> so you can just get rid of that blist window ;)
17:03:06 * clokep_work isn't sure what IRC has to do with not having a buddy list. ;)
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17:04:43 * clokep_work dislikes when people call him "Mr. Cloke"...:P
17:05:02 <Mook_as> Why, do you prefer Mr. _work instead? :p
17:05:23 <Mook_as> and yeah, tbird doesn't exactly have a blist window
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17:09:01 <flo-retina> clokep_work: other protocols are harder to use without any buddy ;)
17:09:49 <flo-retina> I need to read https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=845546
17:09:56 <clokep_work> Mook_as: No. :P It just makes me feel old.
17:10:04 <clokep_work> flo-retina: True!
17:10:15 <clokep_work> qheaden: I emailed you.
17:10:16 <flo-retina> clokep_work: except Omegle maybe :)
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17:19:29 <clokep_work> Mook_as: So buddy pounces is bug 607, but what are you really trying to do?
17:19:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=607 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Support Buddy Pounces
17:19:36 <clokep_work> (If xyz signs into a channel, ping me?)
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17:20:41 <Mook_as> clokep_work: "if ErikRose shows up in #static, ping me"
17:21:24 <Mook_as> (actually, I wouldn't minding being pung if he logs in without joining the channel...)
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17:25:27 <clokep_work> Mook_as: For the second case...would it be OK if you had to add him to your buddy list? ;)
17:25:39 * clokep_work wants to know who ErikRose is and why he's so important. :P
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17:26:53 <Mook_as> hmm. this is more of a one-time thing (to respond to some offline stuff), but if I had to...
17:27:10 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Memoserv?
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17:27:18 <clokep_work> Hmm....I see.
17:27:21 <clokep_work> OK.
17:28:12 <Mook_as> ... good point.
17:28:25 <Mook_as> I'll blame catching a cold :p
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17:39:54 <qheaden> clokep_work: Thanks! I got the email. I'll start looking at the SkypeKit API.
17:40:57 <clokep_work> qheaden: Sure thing, feel free to ask questions (I don't know a ton about the API, only played a little with it; but abou tInstantbird, making protocols, etc.)
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17:47:48 <qheaden> clokep_work: Is anyone else writing proposals for this project?
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17:54:16 <clokep_work> qheaden: I've had other people inquire about it, yes.
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17:56:52 <qheaden> Okay. It certainly is an important project, especially since Microsoft is transferring everything over to Skype.
17:57:38 <clokep_work> Yup. Hopefully we can get it worked out.
18:01:14 <clokep_work> WTF. Why did Mozilla just email me twice about the exact same thing?
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18:13:44 <qheaden> Emailed me twice as well.
18:14:30 <clokep_work> Won't be emailing me again. :P
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18:30:01 <flo-retina> clokep_work: one email is from gary, one from mitchell
18:35:31 <clokep_work> flo-retina: No, they're both from Mozilla. ;)
18:35:52 <clokep_work> (From mine, and probably a lot other's POVs, that doesn't matter.)
18:35:56 <clokep_work> It's spam, essentially, to me.
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18:37:25 <flo-retina> clokep_work: if that makes you feel better, I received each email twice. Once on my moco address, and once on florian@ib.org (mozillians account)
18:41:12 <clokep_work> Not really. :)
18:41:17 * clokep_work is done complaining for now.
18:41:23 <clokep_work> I unsubscribed from everything anyway so...
18:42:25 <flo-retina> clokep_work: so what's the point of bug 1699?
18:42:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1699 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add "Stalked Keywords" option to IRC
18:42:50 <flo-retina> what problem is it fixing? When you say "all protocols", is that MUCs-only, or really all conversations? What's the proposed UI?
18:43:12 <clokep_work> flo-retina: MUCs-only.
18:43:50 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Proposed UI? I don't know, probably a comma-separated list in the account properties window underneath alias?
18:44:04 <clokep_work> (Only visible if MUcs are supported, I think we have a flag on the account for that.)
18:44:20 <flo-retina> we have a canJoinChat flag, yes
18:44:36 <flo-retina> but lots of prpls have it on :-/
18:44:52 <flo-retina> Isn't this just the highlight add-on?
18:45:04 <flo-retina> (that still needs to be fixed/updated)
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18:46:13 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Pretty much, yes.
18:46:27 <clokep_work> But not a function, just simple strings to search for.
18:47:01 <flo-retina> so something I can't use? :-/
18:47:27 <flo-retina> my use case was: "I want to be notified if someone says "instantbird" in a non-#instantbird channel
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18:47:37 <clokep_work> Do we say Instantbird much in here? ;)
18:47:49 <flo-retina> instantbot does
18:47:51 <instantbot> flo-retina: Sorry, I've no idea what 'does' might be.
18:47:52 <instantbot> flo-retina: No I don't!
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18:48:19 <clokep_work> I think integrating highlight is too complicated though.
18:49:40 <clokep_work> flo-retina: This came out of an email / discussion from gerv I think, maybe we should ask him why HIghlight wasn't an option?
18:49:46 <clokep_work> (Or does it just not work irght now?)
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18:55:09 <flo-retina> clokep_work: Highlight is broken (in the "doesn't work at all with current Ib versions" sense), and I wanted to get back to him in that email thread once we would have fixed it
18:55:35 <clokep_work> flo-retina: If that's the "solution" we should WONTFIX that bug then.
18:55:44 <clokep_work> Do we know what's wrong with Highlight? :(
18:55:50 <clokep_work> (I've never looked at it, I don't have it installed.)
18:56:10 <flo-retina> clokep_work: what's wrong is that it needs some tlc and nobody loves it
18:59:59 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1699 to DUPLICATE of bug 1738.
19:00:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1699 enh, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Add "Stalked Keywords" option to IRC
19:00:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1738 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Highlight plugin not marked compatible with Instantbird 1.2
19:03:19 <flo-retina> clokep_work: there may be good arguments for getting the feature there by default.
19:03:37 <flo-retina> I'm just curious what use cases people actually have
19:04:00 <clokep_work> Personally?
19:04:16 <clokep_work> I want to know if someone mentions "instantbird", or says "clokep" when I'm "clokep_work"
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19:04:38 <clokep_work> There're probably other words I would track too, maybe "xmpp" or "irc".
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19:06:21 <flo-retina> clokep_work: would you want to be pinged each time someone says "irc" here?
19:07:59 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I want to be pinged everytime someone says "clokep", yes.
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19:09:07 <flo-retina> clokep_work: that didn't answer my question ;)
19:09:31 <flo-retina> for the "clokep" case, wouldn't it work well if we detected pings on all the list of nicks?
19:09:53 <flo-retina> I've wanted to have a list of nicks of a while, so that if flo is taken, it will switch to florian or fqueze, instead of flo1.
19:10:13 <flo-retina> if my nicks are configured as "flo, florian, fqueze" it would make sense for pings to work on any of these nicks
19:10:31 <flo-retina> (would be nice to avoid being pinged by each review request when instantbot announces them though)
19:11:31 <clokep_work> flo-retina: But I don't want clokep in my list of nicks here. ;)
19:11:45 <clokep_work> flo-retina: IRC might be too broad of a term, but something like "Thunderbird IRC" maybe.
19:11:46 <flo-retina> why not?
19:12:32 <flo-retina> it's one of your nicks, and if nobody's squatting _work, there's no reason it would be used
19:13:12 <clokep_work> Maybe.
19:13:37 <clokep_work> Adding a list of nicks is pretty easy, we have a bug for that already. I think.
19:16:23 * clokep_work wonders if Highlight could be made restartless.
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20:10:04 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Apparently that Twitter patch didn't break the world. ;) Mark said it works on the newest beta.
20:17:01 <flo-retina> clokep_work: cool
20:17:39 <flo-retina> clokep_work: btw, when I write clokep and not clokep_work when you are _work, it's because I don't think what I'm saying requires your immediate attention, so I would likely write c lokep if you weren't _work in these cases ;).
20:18:08 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I don't get pings at work. (It doesn't flash my taskbar.)
20:18:21 <clokep_work> flo-retina: That isn't something you should have to worry about! That's something Instantbird handles for me. :)
20:19:29 <flo-retina> clokep_work: well, yes and no
20:20:02 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I don't want to ping you to often when I don't need your attention, otherwise I would train you to ignore my pings, and be less likely to have attention when actually needed
20:20:41 <clokep_work> Right. Sounds like we need to add a tab complete that adds random spaces. ;)
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20:24:55 <instantbot> benediktp@ymail.com granted review for attachment 2338 on bug 1891.
20:24:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1891 min, --, ---, aleth, NEW, Tab completion does not always update the character counter
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21:58:46 <clokep> Good evening #instantbird!
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22:11:08 <flo-retina> bug 1050 will need changes to the Tb UI the next time we sync chat/
22:11:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Take account of URL shortening in twitter character count
22:11:30 <clokep> flo-retina: Yes, I know. I'm willing to do them.
22:11:57 <flo-retina> I'm wondering how we can track that kind of things efficiently
22:12:14 <clokep> I don't know. :(
22:14:53 <dew> clokep I sent a tweet this morning :)
22:15:22 <clokep> dew: OK, I wasn't sure if it was you. More documentation is better.
22:16:33 <flo-retina> hmm, |hg import -f| if the files have been modified locally is a very bad idea :-/
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22:17:44 * clokep doesn't even want to know what that does.
22:19:11 <dew> import force?
22:19:20 <dew> you overwrote your changes?
22:19:47 <flo-retina> dew: worse. It commited my changes as part of the changeset I was importing.
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22:19:59 <clokep> hg rollback!
22:20:11 * flo-retina doesn't want to blame aleth for random debug dump() calls
22:20:23 <flo-retina> clokep: |hg rol|. No need to type everything ;)
22:20:37 <clokep> flo-retina: You have no idea how often that bites my in git. :(
22:20:57 <flo-retina> clokep: I would assume once each time you attempt to type a git command
22:21:06 <flo-retina> that's what happens for me at least
22:21:44 <flo-retina> have you looked at that /ba issue? Should I file a bug?
22:22:03 <clokep> flo-retina: I haven't looked at it now. :(
22:22:05 <clokep> Please file a bug, yes.
22:23:17 <flo-retina> I have bug 1050 and bug 1652 ready to push. Anything else?
22:23:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Take account of URL shortening in twitter character count
22:23:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1652 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, [a11y] Tooltips are missing in log viewer
22:23:42 <clokep> flo-retina: That's all that's reviewed, I believe.
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22:30:32 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/8fbb223bda4c - Patrick Cloke - Bug 1050 - Take account of URL shortening in twitter character count, r=aleth.
22:30:33 <instantbot> Check-in: http://hg.instantbird.org/instantbird/rev/2a5fcd49ace0 - aleth - Bug 1652 - [a11y] Tooltips are missing in log viewer and message theme preview, r=fqueze.
22:31:04 <clokep> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=860504 is about the Mozillians Instantbird group thing if anyone wants to CC themself.
22:31:59 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1050 to FIXED.
22:32:04 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1050 nor, --, 1.4, clokep, RESO FIXED, Take account of URL shortening in twitter character count
22:32:30 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com set the Resolution field on bug 1652 to FIXED.
22:32:32 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1652 nor, --, 1.4, aleth, RESO FIXED, [a11y] Tooltips are missing in log viewer
22:33:57 <flo-retina> thanks :)
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22:38:37 <instant-buildbot> build #373 of macosx-onCommit is complete: Failure [failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-onCommit/builds/373  blamelist: aleth <aleth@instantbird.org>, Patrick Cloke <clokep@gmail.com>
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22:41:14 <clokep> Mic: Review ping on bug 1893.
22:41:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1893 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Use Javascript default parameters where applicable
22:51:53 <clokep> Mook_as: ping
22:54:30 <Mook_as> clokep: pong
22:54:41 <clokep> Mook_as: https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100#c44
22:54:45 <instantbot> Bug 1100 cri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Use Firefox untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors
22:54:51 <clokep> Was that middle comment in there that was originally yours?
22:55:02 <clokep> Replace the "else if (aStatus)" with the other version?
22:55:37 <Mook_as> I think so, from comment 40, look for >@@ -400,36 +407,48 @@ const Socket = {
22:56:05 <clokep> Mook_as: Yes, that still isn't clear to me. ;)
22:57:01 <Mook_as> I guess it doesn't matter in this case, since you actually compare it against a bunch of things...
22:57:13 <Mook_as> it just seems cleaner to do that only if you know it's a failure?
22:57:52 <clokep> Yeah, that makes sense. :)
22:58:02 <clokep> Just wasn't clear from the comment what you were asking to change.
22:58:03 <clokep> Thanks!
22:58:19 <Mook_as> Ah, okay
22:59:25 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com requested review from florian@instantbird .org for attachment 2340 on bug 1100.
22:59:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.instantbird.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100 cri, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Use Firefox untrusted cert dialog for "SSL Handshake failed" errors
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23:23:15 <flo-retina> clokep, can I check this in without testing first?
23:23:59 <flo-retina> hmm, I'm actually curious to see it in action :-S
23:24:07 <clokep> flo-retina: I did test it a few times.
23:29:30 <flo-retina> clokep: http://i5.minus.com/id3MnvEQsOQeO.png
23:29:40 <flo-retina> the link color seems sub-optimal above that background :(
23:29:57 <clokep> flo-retina: I can't say it looks /that/ much better on Windows.
23:30:08 <clokep> The UI aspect doesn't really excite me. :-[
23:30:22 <clokep> It's hard to make work well when highlighted and not highlighted though.
23:31:50 <flo-retina> clokep: so if I click on "add exception" go in the dialog, and confirm the exception
23:32:10 <flo-retina> the account reconnects itself automatically (great!), but the "Add Exception" link is still there (not so great :()
23:32:30 <clokep> flo-retina: :( That's not good.
23:32:36 <clokep> I thought I checked that...
23:32:41 <clokep> Maybe something I changed broke it though. :-/
23:34:47 <flo-retina> I also find it strange that the clickable area for the link is much larger than the visible link: http://i6.minus.com/i6jsN0Qtf4PEt.png
23:37:20 <clokep> It probably stretches with the box model.
23:37:32 <flo-retina> yeah
23:37:38 <flo-retina> would be nice if you could also fix that
23:38:13 <flo-retina> you just need to add align="start" on this line: http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/instantbird/content/account.xml#28 (I tested with DOMi)
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23:48:46 <clokep> flo-retina: OK.
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23:54:06 <flo-retina> clokep: is a new patch coming very soon? (If not, I'm going to bed ;)).
23:54:19 <clokep> flo-retina: No.
23:54:23 <clokep> I'm neck deep in a different patch.
23:54:26 <flo-retina> ok, good evening :)
23:54:31 <clokep> Sorry, I didn't realize you were waiting.
23:54:33 <clokep> Goodnight!
23:54:36 <instant-buildbot> build #395 of linux-onCommit is complete: Success [build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-onCommit/builds/395
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23:55:21 <flo-retina> I wasn't really "waiting". More checking just before leaving ;).