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22:21:40 <freaktechnik> clokep I'm pretty sure I've had echo-message working in a very simple implementation at some point... the bigger question is if I still have the patch...
22:21:56 <clokep> freaktechnik: I'm about to attach one...
22:22:32 <clokep> Sorry, got distracted while filing the bug. :)
22:23:13 <freaktechnik> Yeah, just got the email
22:23:29 <freaktechnik> Will try to see if I still have my patch and compare ;)
22:23:52 <freaktechnik> Also, time to follow those ircv3 bugs i guess.
22:23:55 <clokep> :) Makes sense.
22:24:04 <clokep> freaktechnik: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=ircv3 if you want a meta.
22:24:27 <freaktechnik> Yeah I know, I'm on the cc of that one
22:25:02 <freaktechnik> Also, I remember primarily testing with the inspircd testnet too. Because my znc version was too old to have the cap and now I no longer have znc..
22:26:22 <freaktechnik> Hm, if I still have the patch it's probably in some backups and I'm too lazy to dig those up (plus I'm still trying to tame my nas so I can talk to it again and it would be the primary backup place usually...)
22:27:01 <clokep> Taming a NAS sounds like a good way to lose a weekend.
22:28:28 <clokep> The implementation was pretty straightforward. I'm fairly unhappy with the amount of code we have to enable / disable each CAP by the way.
22:30:29 <freaktechnik> Yup, fully agree
22:30:37 <freaktechnik> (On the cap part, the nas is more of a monthlong project to try and be patient until elasticsearch settles enough that I can login...)
22:32:13 <freaktechnik> I think the cap negotiation could probably be a lot more declarative.
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22:37:11 <clokep> That was my thought too.
22:38:03 <clokep> THe only one that seems to implement any different code is the server-time one...due to having the znc version as well as the standardized one.
22:44:13 <clokep> A lot of the IRCv3 extensions I don't really see what they "fix".
22:44:28 <clokep> I think that's cause some of them deal with data we don't care about.
22:47:01 <freaktechnik> Well, and sasl would still need to get some callback or something for the declarative protocol support negotiatoon?
22:51:48 <clokep> Right.
23:24:39 <freaktechnik> Hm, I wonder why I have labeled-response marked as important on my list. I mean, it would allow for some nice stuff on the coding side when it's supported by a server, but I can't see a value to the end user or current code and I didn't add any more notes...
23:27:28 <clokep> It lets you track query, responses to the server?
23:27:43 <clokep> I think XMPP does that...but it would require redesigning our like entire processing pipeline in IRC.
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23:41:06 <freaktechnik> Yup
23:43:03 <freaktechnik> I'll try to test echo-message tomorrow btw
23:45:33 <freaktechnik> Hm, in the ircv3 compat table we're currently marked as not supporting message tags, even though we have to for some of the features... Though I guess we'd have to verify that we support the entire spec including client only tags before updating the support table...
23:46:05 <freaktechnik> I guess that's for TAGMSG which is the new thing for client side tags