#instantbird log on 03 14 2018

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18:17:58 <freaktechnik> clokep_tb: I've discovered https://ircv3.net/support/networks.html and decided to implement things on it that are useful. Probably starting with CAP v3.2 that apparently never made it?
18:18:10 <freaktechnik> (did we only talk about it but never do it?)
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18:49:03 <freaktechnik> oh, is "We plan to sunset this API on Tuesday June 19, 2018. The Account Activity API will replace the User streams and Site streams APIs." for twitter being tracked?
18:49:12 <freaktechnik> (the user.json streaming API)
18:52:26 <freaktechnik> seems streaming is just straight going away.
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18:55:06 <freaktechnik> I guess there's still https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/tweets/filter-realtime/api-reference/post-statuses-filter
18:55:49 <freaktechnik> https://developer.twitter.com/en/docs/accounts-and-users/subscribe-account-activity/guides/us-ss-migration-guide
18:56:09 <freaktechnik> yes, webhooks is a great solution here ;)
18:56:15 <clokep_tb> freaktechnik: I never implemented ircv3, on.
18:56:22 <clokep_tb> ircv3 CAP v3.2.
18:56:24 <clokep_tb> Sorry.
18:56:35 <clokep_tb> I don't really remember if there was anything useful in it.
18:56:40 <freaktechnik> okay, so I probably remember us discussing it and never actually doing it
18:56:47 <freaktechnik> it's useful if you have a bouncer...
18:56:53 <freaktechnik> because it allows dynamic cap changes.
18:57:14 <clokep_tb> Ah-ha!
18:57:23 <clokep_tb> yeah that's probably the use-case Inever cared about and never implemented. :)
18:57:26 <clokep_tb> I think the scope is small?
18:58:08 <freaktechnik> I think I have a patch laying around somewhere, but it essentially means you have to care about what's enabled and not etc. So it's quite a big infrastructure change.
18:58:35 <freaktechnik> maybe that patch got lost at some point by me not caring about unfinished stuff when reinstalling my OS
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19:12:30 <clokep_tb> Ah, you might be right.
19:12:38 <clokep_tb> We throw that info out after registration, IIRC.
19:12:41 <clokep_tb> Well "most" of it.
19:19:51 <clokep_tb> Al that code was unfortunatly designed to be stateless.
19:19:58 <clokep_tb> Which is super nice...except when you start adding state to it. :)
19:20:47 <freaktechnik> I was thinking make something else hold that state...
19:20:58 <freaktechnik> since handlers may want to get state data themselves.
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19:40:19 <clokep_tb> Yeah.
19:40:23 <clokep_tb> We do that a little bit with some of the CAPs.
19:40:29 <clokep_tb> I think we decide if somethings are enabled or not.
19:40:36 <freaktechnik> I'd assume so, yeah
19:41:23 <clokep_tb> A more generic way of doing that might be nice though.
19:41:48 <freaktechnik> yeah. I don't think an unregister handled is currently needed if you can just query the state.
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21:30:47 <instantbot> New Chat Core - Twitter bug 1445778 filed by martin@humanoids.be.
21:30:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1445778 nor, --, ---, martin, ASSI, Streaming API is deprecated in june
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21:34:03 <florian> freaktechnik: :(
21:34:10 <freaktechnik> yeah
21:34:14 <freaktechnik> sucks pretty hard
21:35:08 <florian> "sunset" meh
21:35:20 <freaktechnik> it's worded a lot more final in the blogpost, sadly
21:35:33 <freaktechnik> which also pointed me to direct_messages changing
21:35:47 <florian> "sunset" is californian for "kill"
21:36:06 <freaktechnik> essentially, the dm stuff has to be rewritten, I think.
21:36:17 <freaktechnik> going to file a bug for that, but don't care enough about it to make a patch
21:36:25 <freaktechnik> also, may need uplifts, based on the timeline twitter has...
21:36:39 <florian> the first time I heard the word "sunset" to talk about a product, it was about Thunderbird
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21:36:45 <freaktechnik> heh
21:36:48 <florian> (and it was a question from someone who was anxious about TB's future)
21:37:57 <florian> freaktechnik: and this is the exact time Slack chooses to email me "Saying goodbye to Slack’s IRC and XMPP gateways"
21:38:49 <florian> "Slack is at a point where the gateways can no longer handle all of our features or security needs."
21:39:04 * florian wonders if the missing feature is a way to display ads in IRC clients
21:39:06 <instantbot> New Chat Core - Twitter bug 1445784 filed by martin@humanoids.be.
21:39:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1445784 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Use new direct_messages API endpoints
21:39:43 <freaktechnik> well, at least the IRC cloud integration is pretty neat
21:39:43 <freaktechnik> (and interesting from an IRC protocol perspective)
21:39:43 <freaktechnik> no, it's threads and reactions, ofc
21:40:55 <florian> that's what they say
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21:51:32 <florian> my other macbook just had a kernel panic :-S
21:52:37 <freaktechnik> ah, that's why clokep timed out ;)
21:53:09 <florian> could be! :-P
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