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01:26:00 <-- Bollebib has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 01:30:42 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 01:40:36 <florian> nhnt11: you've got a mix of 4-spaces and 2-spaces indent on that chat.css file 01:53:44 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 02:12:41 <nhnt11> I do? 02:13:06 <nhnt11> oh 02:13:10 <nhnt11> yeah sorry about that 02:13:14 <nhnt11> I copy pasted from my userChrome.css 02:13:26 <nhnt11> those rules will probably need to be refined 02:14:08 * nhnt11 fixed it locally 03:51:46 <-- bgmCoder has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 04:26:21 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 04:28:22 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 05:23:13 <-- spiffytech has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 05:27:46 --> spiffytech has joined #instantbird 08:28:34 --> fredw has joined #instantbird 08:33:27 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 09:01:27 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:17:04 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:55:17 <-- fredw has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:01:26 --> fredw has joined #instantbird 10:08:35 <-- fredw has quit (Client exited) 10:28:25 <-- florian has quit (Client exited) 10:47:58 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 11:29:58 <-- GeekShadow has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:31:03 --> florian has joined #instantbird 11:31:03 * ChanServ sets mode +qo florian florian 11:32:27 --> GeekShadow has joined #instantbird 11:55:33 --> clokep_tb has joined #instantbird 12:28:24 * florian wonders if clokep_tb has thoughts about bug 1412710 12:28:27 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1412710 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Implement a chat-only-mode for users that primarily use Thunderbird for chat 12:43:34 <clokep_tb> I saw the email, but hadn't read it yet. 12:44:16 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:44:53 <clokep_tb> florian, nhnt11: Seems vaguely reasonable. 12:45:01 <clokep_tb> Do we have thoughts on what other Thunderbird people will think? 13:15:03 <florian> that was mostly what my question is about 13:15:14 <florian> is it acceptable to other TB people, and is it presented correctly to be acceptable 13:15:38 <florian> I think overall it should be acceptable, but we should likely put some more guards on it 13:16:00 <florian> which I assume nhnt11 is planning to do anyway and is the reason for requesting f? rather than r? 13:27:28 --> bgmCoder has joined #instantbird 13:33:20 --> fredw has joined #instantbird 13:46:08 <clokep_tb> Right. 13:46:19 <clokep_tb> I mean I *think* it would be acceptable? It doesn't touch any other code. 13:51:08 <-- florian has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:51:33 --> florian has joined #instantbird 13:51:33 * ChanServ sets mode +qo florian florian 13:55:40 <-- florian has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:56:05 --> florian has joined #instantbird 13:56:05 * ChanServ sets mode +qo florian florian 14:07:48 <nhnt11> florian: right, I wanted f? on the general technical approach of the patch 14:08:12 <nhnt11> and in general as a solicitation for your ideas/comments on this 14:08:59 <florian> I'll request that we try harder to never get in the way of someone who may be using TB for email 14:09:21 <nhnt11> yup 14:09:23 <nhnt11> that makes sense 14:09:23 <florian> eg. I'm not sure we should persist the chat-only mode if someone has email accounts configured 14:09:29 <nhnt11> that's a good idea, yeah 14:09:44 <nhnt11> florian: could you please put these thoughts in the bug? 14:09:49 <florian> I will 14:09:49 <nhnt11> I'm afraid I'll forget 14:09:51 <nhnt11> thanks! 14:10:10 <florian> but I'll try to also give some comments about what's in the patch ;) 14:10:11 <nhnt11> florian: we could even just make it a pref 14:10:18 <nhnt11> that's false by default 14:10:19 <florian> I mean, something more thoughtful than "the intend is a mess in the css file" ;) 14:10:32 <nhnt11> :P 14:10:37 <florian> yeah, sounds nicer. Doesn't require messing with the persist attribute in non-chat code :) 14:11:15 <nhnt11> yeah 14:11:53 <florian> Maybe the button should say something like "Show/Hide email tab" 14:12:06 <florian> in the future I would like us to re-implement the /about command to open eg. about:memory 14:12:15 <florian> I think opening about:memory should unhide the tab bar automatically 14:12:17 <nhnt11> I saw the bug for that 14:12:36 <florian> the keyboard shortcut to switch tab should also unhide the tab bar 14:12:48 <nhnt11> florian: we could make it so that the tab bar is only hidden when the chat tab is selected 14:13:03 <nhnt11> to iterate on that: 14:13:11 <nhnt11> disable chat-only-mode when switching away from the chat tab 14:13:14 <florian> selected and the only tab (except for the first default one) 14:13:45 <florian> I think we'll manage to get something nice that doesn't get in anybody's way :) 14:13:50 <nhnt11> yeah 14:14:10 <nhnt11> florian: the toolbar button is already not a default one, in my patch 14:14:16 <nhnt11> you have to manually add it to the toolbar 14:14:23 <florian> oh 14:14:30 <nhnt11> I'm not sure what we want to do there 14:14:39 <florian> wouldn't we want it in the chat toolbar by default once the thing is polished enough? 14:14:43 <nhnt11> yeah 14:14:44 <nhnt11> I'd say so 14:15:00 <florian> not putting it by default is a nice way to experiment quietly for a little while 14:15:11 <nhnt11> florian: we could even expose the pref in the Chat preference pane 14:15:13 <freaktechnik> is there a bug for a keyboard shortcut to switch conversations? 14:15:16 <nhnt11> the persist-pref I mean 14:15:23 <nhnt11> freaktechnik: Cmd+Up/Down 14:15:28 <freaktechnik> ooh 14:15:49 <florian> freaktechnik: I'm not aware of any such bug :) 14:16:01 <freaktechnik> is there one to go through unreads, like ctrl + shift + up/down? 14:16:21 <freaktechnik> because right now shift doesn't seem to do anything, so it going to the next unread would be a+ 14:19:12 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|pto 14:19:31 <nhnt11> freaktechnik: good idea, could you file a bug? :) 14:21:04 <florian> freaktechnik: I vaguely remember writing code to go to the next unread, but I can't remember the details 14:21:18 * freaktechnik takes a look on dxr 14:21:29 <florian> that was way too long ago :( 14:21:38 <florian> (I wrote the TB chat UI in 2011-2012) 14:23:55 <freaktechnik> probably for the auto focus of the first unread conv? 14:24:38 <nhnt11> I don't expect it'd be too hard to write a patch for thsi 14:24:40 <nhnt11> this* 14:24:41 <freaktechnik> -> https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/components/im/content/chat-messenger-overlay.js#865 14:24:46 <freaktechnik> yeah, should be quite simple 14:24:56 <freaktechnik> key handler is https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/components/im/content/chat-messenger-overlay.js#1128 14:28:22 <freaktechnik> -> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1412843 14:28:24 <instantbot> Bug 1412843 enh, --, ---, martin, ASSI, Shortcut to switch through unread conversations 14:28:34 <nhnt11> thanks! 14:29:16 <freaktechnik> time to update my ancient c-c clone 14:30:23 <freaktechnik> who should I r? it to? nhnt11 or florian? 14:30:45 <nhnt11> freaktechnik: you can r? me 14:34:03 <-- florian has quit (Client exited) 14:56:54 --> florian has joined #instantbird 14:56:54 * ChanServ sets mode +qo florian florian 15:08:50 --> WaltS48 has joined #instantbird 15:09:10 <-- WaltS48 has quit (Quit: Off to use Linux) 16:09:18 --> WaltS48 has joined #instantbird 16:37:13 * WaltS48 is now known as WaltS48-laundry 16:42:39 <-- mook_as has quit (Quit: ) 16:43:15 <-- fredw has quit (Client exited) 16:43:55 --> mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:22:05 <freaktechnik> (turns out updating my c-c is not that simple) 17:28:12 <clokep_tb> freaktechnik: Don't forget to pull m-c? 17:28:23 <freaktechnik> that's the problem... 17:28:37 <freaktechnik> so many changes and something isn't really working when updating, so trying to fix that \o/ 17:29:00 <freaktechnik> (also, I use client.py to checkout, well, at least try to) 18:30:13 * nhnt11 also uses client.py 18:30:16 <nhnt11> is there another way? 18:30:25 <nhnt11> (cd mozilla && hg pull?) 18:33:02 <clokep_tb> client.py is the right way. :) 18:33:09 <clokep_tb> It pulls more than just the one repo. 18:42:17 <freaktechnik> so rm -rf mozilla and re-clienting is the solution it seems :( m-c isn't getting smaller... 18:50:45 <florian> we should talk again about merging c-c into m-c :-P 18:51:07 <nhnt11> lol 19:02:22 <freaktechnik> when IB's gone from C-C the worries of adding more stuff to m-c are surely lower... 19:11:10 <-- WaltS48-laundry has quit (Quit: Leaving) 19:17:43 <florian> freaktechnik: there's still suite/ 19:18:08 <freaktechnik> I know, I wasn't entirely serious. 19:36:03 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Connection closed) 19:41:46 --> Logicoma has joined #instantbird 19:46:09 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:08:11 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:28:02 <-- Logicoma has quit (Connection closed) 20:39:01 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 20:41:08 <-- clokep_tb has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:48:11 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:52:47 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 21:19:11 --> clokep_tb has joined #instantbird 21:37:02 <-- clokep_tb has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:56:39 --> clokep_tb has joined #instantbird 22:35:23 <-- clokep_tb has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:43:24 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Quit: Leaving)