#instantbird log on 03 28 2017

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02:10:12 <instant-buildbot> build #1021 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed hg]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/1021
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03:34:12 <instant-buildbot> build #3500 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3500
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12:45:28 * clokep_work wonders if anyone else saw https://gsuiteupdates.googleblog.com/2017/03/updates-in-g-suite-to-streamline-hangouts-and-gmail.html
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13:04:57 <florian> "Third-party XMPP clients will continue to work with Hangouts for 1-on-1 chats."
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13:11:39 <clokep_work> But federation won't work.
13:11:44 <clokep_work> So yeah, probably doesn't really affect us.
13:11:53 <clokep_work> It's pretty much the same as the current situation?
13:12:22 <florian> I think currently federation still works in a few cases
13:12:30 <florian> and it's so inconsistent that it's super confusing
13:13:04 <florian> eg. if you are using an xmpp server that accepts unencrypted server to server connections, you can talk with gtalk users but not hangout users
13:13:26 <florian> if your server requires encrypted s2s, then it's already broken
13:13:48 <florian> or something along those lines
13:14:02 <clokep_work> Oh, yeah you're totoally right.
13:14:10 <clokep_work> Many servers required S2S encryption now, but Google doesn't do that.
13:14:13 <clokep_work> For some reason...
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18:52:50 <H2O> clokep_work: Hello
18:56:20 <H2O> Is a GSoC project from Instantbird going to get selected for sure ?
19:01:26 <clokep_work> H2O: There's no way to know that until we have applications. :)
19:04:40 <H2O> clokep_work: Actually I am writing an application for Telegram, I'm sure it'll be good enough.
19:04:52 <clokep_work> OK.
19:04:59 <H2O> I just don't want a effort got wasted situation.
19:05:03 <clokep_work> Let me know if you have any questions.
19:05:46 <H2O> clokep_work: If you like my proposal, then it gets selected, right?
19:05:52 <H2O> Is that how it works?
19:06:44 <clokep_work> H2O: No.
19:06:55 <clokep_work> We ask for a certain number of slots from Google, Google decides how many slots we get.
19:07:04 <H2O> clokep_work:  then ?
19:07:09 <clokep_work> If there aren't enough slots for how many projects we want to accept then we need to decide.
19:07:19 <clokep_work> (Note that this is the same for every organization.)
19:08:51 <H2O> clokep_work: What is the criteria to dump good applications ?
19:09:42 <H2O> As instantbird has been getting 2 or 3 slots from the past years, is it likely to assume the same for this year too?
19:10:27 <H2O> clokep_work:  I know you might be busy, but clarify this and one more question :P
19:11:13 <clokep_work> H2O: I think we only had 1 slot the past few years.
19:11:55 <clokep_work> H2O: You need to show us that you understand the goals of the project, have a sane schedule for accomplishing it, are capable of accomplishing it, etc.
19:12:06 <H2O> clokep_work:  Oh, So is it likely to assume the same for this year too?
19:12:16 <clokep_work> I don't know.
19:12:28 <clokep_work> (As in I have no further information.)
19:12:38 <H2O> How many other applications did u already receive/
19:14:11 <clokep_work> I can't offer that information. :)
19:14:22 <clokep_work> There have been multiple people interested in that project though.
19:15:16 <H2O> Okay, I guess I should be asking such questions..
19:15:47 <H2O> well, I'll show myself up soon, and can I expect any review before submitting the proposal.
19:16:09 <clokep_work> Yeah, feel free to shoot me a link or email it to me.
19:16:40 <H2O> Just to make sure, The coding period is 12 weeks right?
19:18:23 <H2O> clokep_work: ?
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19:20:19 <clokep_work> H2O: I'm concerned you don't know that. :( But yes, it's 12 weeks. https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/how-it-works/
19:21:27 <H2O> clokep_work:  yeah, I have seen this, but I think have seen somewhere in the brainstorming docs that it should fit in 8 weeks
19:21:28 <H2O> Hence the question
19:21:48 <clokep_work> I don't know which doc that is.
19:21:54 <clokep_work> Remember that reviews and such take time too.
19:22:02 <clokep_work> You can't plan for just coding for 12 weeks.
19:22:42 <H2O> clokep_work: Hmm...
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19:28:34 <matrixisreal> clokep_work: Any chane of reviewing today? :P 
19:28:42 * matrixisreal is just curious
19:32:01 <clokep_work> matrixisreal: Which patch?
19:32:05 <clokep_work> I think I reviewed something this morning.
19:32:18 <clokep_work> But I've been inside of netfilter all day and my brain is mushy.
19:33:18 <matrixisreal> clokep_work: Oh, not the patch, the proposal.
19:33:37 <clokep_work> Oh.
19:33:41 <clokep_work> matrixisreal: Maybe when I get home.
19:33:45 <clokep_work> I'm about to leave in a few minutes.
19:34:45 <matrixisreal> Cool, thanks :)
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