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00:39:55 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 00:43:03 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 00:43:26 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 00:45:47 --> Alex1 has joined #instantbird 00:46:15 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 00:46:37 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 01:48:20 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 01:51:36 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 01:56:50 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: Leaving) 02:03:46 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 03:18:31 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 03:33:41 <instant-buildbot> build #3262 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3262 04:11:33 <instant-buildbot> build #785 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/785 04:40:18 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Connection closed) 04:42:41 <-- bgmCoder has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 05:04:12 <instant-buildbot> build #3263 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3263 05:52:24 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 05:53:10 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 06:31:37 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 07:42:47 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 08:18:02 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:32:52 <-- Alex1 has quit (Connection closed) 08:35:35 --> Alex1 has joined #instantbird 08:36:44 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 08:39:55 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 08:40:15 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:06:52 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 09:39:26 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:56:43 <-- Alex1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:38:46 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 10:50:38 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 10:50:42 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 11:09:57 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 11:09:57 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 11:16:30 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 11:28:58 <-- mpmc has quit (Connection closed) 11:56:42 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:20:05 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 12:25:23 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 12:25:36 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 12:29:38 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:31:47 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 12:34:01 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:34:07 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:34:07 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:10:47 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:10:51 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:10:51 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:16:04 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 13:16:12 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 13:31:07 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 13:31:27 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 14:08:14 <clokep_work> Hello abdelrhman! 14:08:15 <clokep_work> How's it going? 14:08:43 <abdelrhman> Hi, finishing Data forms and I'll submit it today 14:09:28 <abdelrhman> I made some modifications to allow adding in-band registration easily 14:09:32 <-- micahg has quit (Connection closed) 14:10:20 --> micahg has joined #instantbird 14:11:25 * abdelrhman is testing it now 14:11:32 --> bgmCoder has joined #instantbird 14:12:14 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: Cool! :) Did my comments mostly make sense? 14:13:30 <abdelrhman> yes :) 14:13:44 <abdelrhman> Will you have a time to review it today? 14:17:54 --> WaltS48 has joined #instantbird 14:18:19 <-- WaltS48 has left #instantbird () 14:21:54 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: I can try to. 14:33:10 <sukhe> abdelrhman: hello! 14:36:41 <abdelrhman> Hi :), Thanks for offering help. Currently, we 're working implementing and supporting Data Forms (bug 1269331) which will allow us to implement in-band registration in better way 14:37:12 <abdelrhman> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1269331 14:38:18 <sukhe> ah interesting 15:08:13 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 15:08:23 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 15:22:06 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 15:22:24 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 15:27:42 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 15:30:42 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:54:15 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:56:20 <clokep_work> SamWhited is doing a survey on XMPP usage, if you want to fill it and give your data to Google: https://goo.gl/forms/nN9H6kNurWTwTArb2 (via devel@pidgin) 15:57:31 <clokep_work> (FYI I copy and pasted that, don't know who that is or anything. :P) 16:00:49 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:03:29 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:03:29 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 16:19:46 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:27:31 <-- Mook_as has quit (Client exited) 16:27:43 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:30:41 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 16:45:17 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 16:45:57 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 17:09:23 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 17:09:39 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 17:29:58 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 17:35:02 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited) 17:37:38 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:07:51 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 18:11:52 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 18:11:55 <freaktechnik> hmm, let's do some stress testing of this PC. 18:13:41 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 18:16:39 <clokep_work> Logging into a twitch channel w/ 5000000000000 people? 18:16:47 <freaktechnik> \o/ it's holding up pretty well (justinfan111111:blah@irc.chat.twitch.tv#dota2ti) 18:16:57 <freaktechnik> yeah, though I have user list disabled 18:17:02 <freaktechnik> because that'd probably still be death 18:17:43 <freaktechnik> it is even slightly ahead of the web-version 18:24:20 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 18:24:30 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 18:29:00 <clokep_work> Cool. :) 18:38:20 <Tonnes> hey guys.. what's the staus of IB? 18:38:25 <Tonnes> s/status 18:42:02 <clokep_work> Tonnes: What does that question mean? 18:42:08 <clokep_work> What are you really asking? 18:42:19 <Tonnes> seen no dev build for a while, l10n updates do not generate new build, previous questions on mailing list unanswered... 18:42:20 <freaktechnik> hm, so I decided to try with populating the participants list and decided to stop after ~40000 (and the messages being behind like 10 minutes due to the sync nature of adding participants) https://www.dropbox.com/s/zkg7u1q3vgu0u8k/Screenshot%202016-08-08%2020.40.04.png?dl=0 18:42:47 <clokep_work> Tonnes: AFAIK there's one unanswered message on the mailing list. 18:42:50 <clokep_work> From a few days ago. 18:42:57 <clokep_work> We've had nightly linux and Mac builds for a while. 18:43:00 <clokep_work> Windows is still not working. 18:43:06 <clokep_work> l10n updates have been broken forever, yes. 18:43:27 <Tonnes> thanks :) 18:43:31 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: That's ghetto looking. ;) 18:43:49 <clokep_work> Tonnes: Honestly I'm not sure about our plan for Windows. I think someone needs to bite the bullet and make a new system from scratch, which is...not fun. 18:43:50 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 18:44:01 <clokep_work> And l10n...not sure either. I've never dealt w/ that. flo-retina might have a better idea. 18:44:26 <Tonnes> I see 18:44:35 <freaktechnik> clokep_work: well, it's supposed to count up to like 100000 or something for participants, but I'm too scared to load the raw JSON and check the length, but firefox can add all those people to an <ul> no problem ;) 18:44:43 <Tonnes> bug 953883 still unfixed.. 18:45:05 <Tonnes> is the mailing list on google or mail-only? 18:45:18 <clokep_work> It's on mailman. 18:45:23 <clokep_work> It's probably mirrored to google. 18:45:25 <flo-retina> clokep_work: so I think I worked on un-breaking l10n-repackaging a while ago 18:45:31 <freaktechnik> (but the "vanilla" version is still holding up good) 18:45:35 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:45:39 <flo-retina> and got mostly there, to the point that I managed to make a repackaged French build locally 18:45:45 <clokep_work> Tonnes: https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-instantbird 18:45:48 <flo-retina> but I didn't get to the point where I managed to have it automated in buildbot 18:45:53 <clokep_work> Tonnes: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/mozilla.support.instantbird 18:46:20 --> Aryx has joined #instantbird 18:46:36 <clokep_work> Tonnes: bug 953883 I personally have no opinion about it. 18:46:56 <Tonnes> was looking for https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/instantbird-l10n in fact 18:47:42 <Tonnes> (last message Juli 31 15) 18:48:08 <Aryx> hi, if i am in a xmpp conference and type /version <contact jid>, Tb tells me that i have to start the conversation because it can be connected from multiple devices 18:48:38 <Tonnes> http://www.instantbird.com/nl/release-notes.html still untranslated 18:48:39 <Aryx> is that expected? shouldn't it be independent from the currently selected conference/contact? 18:49:51 <clokep_work> Does that just require pushing the website? 18:49:55 <clokep_work> Aryx: I'm not sure... 18:50:00 <clokep_work> You'd have to ask aleth or abdelrhman. 18:50:30 <clokep_work> I also...don't see that as an option in a conference? 18:51:04 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:51:07 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 18:51:07 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 18:51:23 <Aryx> imho everything needed is in the command /version user@host, but my xmpp knowledge is rusty 18:51:26 <clokep_work> Aryx: Yeah..I don't see a /version command. :-S 18:51:36 <Aryx> it's in 50+ 18:52:00 <clokep_work> Sure. I'm on a nightly build of IB. 18:52:01 <clokep_work> I don't see it. 18:52:16 <clokep_work> ...I wonder if we have that annoying issue of libpurple vs. JS commands still. :( 18:52:54 <Aryx> it works if i have the contact selected *shrugs* 18:55:49 <clokep_work> (o_O) 18:55:50 <Tonnes> clokep_work: no push involved afaik, it used to work automatically 18:56:22 <Tonnes> if you were referring to th erelease notes that is 18:57:41 <clokep_work> I was. 18:57:46 <clokep_work> I don't think it was completely automatic. 18:58:33 <Tonnes> hmm 19:01:02 <Tonnes> sorry if i write this and I don't want to be rude but can you imagine someone putting energy in keeping up with l10n stuff to be a bit disappointed when seeing no action to these 3 issues for more than a year? I'd like to update things once again now but feel it's pointless somehow - it's just like the project is dead 19:02:10 <flo-retina> Tonnes: I understand your frustrating. 19:02:20 <flo-retina> Tonnes: it's actually very frustrating to me to have no good answer to give you. 19:02:28 <Tonnes> :) 19:02:36 <Tonnes> you're florian, right? 19:02:43 <flo-retina> I'd like to tell you when it'll be fixed, but honestly I don't know, and I don't want to just make up something to please you... 19:02:46 <flo-retina> yes I am 19:03:21 <Tonnes> we nmay have discussed this a tiny bit at last year's workweek in W 19:03:30 <flo-retina> right, in Whistler 19:03:36 <flo-retina> which is a long time ago already 19:03:42 <Tonnes> yup 19:04:59 <Tonnes> well, if I compare Mozilla (and related) projects to trains and planes, I'd say it's best to inform people about statuses when there's some delay or cancellations involved 19:05:15 <Tonnes> i.e. things could be posted on websites 19:06:30 <flo-retina> so what should we write on the website? 19:07:06 <flo-retina> "we are not building Windows nightly because our friend who hosted that builder moved, and his new office doesn't have the Internet"? 19:07:13 <flo-retina> that doesn't sound serious, right? 19:07:54 <flo-retina> (it's the actual situation... The person who hosts that builder has been procrastinating putting a network wire to the room with his desktop computer for months now...) 19:09:12 <Tonnes> wow.. 19:09:45 <flo-retina> at this point we don't really expect it to happen anymore 19:09:47 <Tonnes> well it;s not very fancy for a website, no 19:09:59 <flo-retina> so I should setup a new Windows builder in my house 19:10:24 <flo-retina> but the last time I touched builders, I unbroke Mac which required a new compiler (and it took us a couple attempts to understand what was wrong) 19:11:09 <Tonnes> I see.. well that eplains the missing win builds 19:11:56 <flo-retina> for l10n, our plan is/was to install a second set of builders, that would produce localized builds (off aurora for a couple weeks, then off beta for the rest of the cycle) automatically every week. 19:12:11 <flo-retina> and ship automatically with every other Mozilla release. 19:12:13 <instantbot> New Chat Core - XMPP bug 1293370 filed by aryx.bugmail@gmx-topmail.de. 19:12:24 <flo-retina> but we are already struggling with maintaining the first set of builders 19:12:26 <Tonnes> that sounds good 19:12:40 <flo-retina> (actually, I still haven't managed to finish re-installing the Linux32 builder) 19:13:52 <Tonnes> I see.. well this is helpful, as I started to wonder if i should just set up a linux VM in order to test some l10n - also useful for other products that have no win builds 19:15:00 <flo-retina> linux64 and Mac have nightlies currently 19:15:09 <flo-retina> both of these builders are in my house 19:15:14 <freaktechnik> (I think I crashed tb by having a timeout that infinitely timeouts) 19:15:26 <Tonnes> yep.. oh that would require a 64 cpu here :) 19:15:54 <flo-retina> do you still have 32bit ones? :) 19:16:07 <Tonnes> well.. in fact it is 64, but win is 32 :) 19:16:54 <Tonnes> I guess a 64 bit VM requires a 64 bit OS to run on, right? 19:17:46 <Aryx> yes 19:20:00 * clokep_work wonders if people are really on 32-bit processors still. 19:20:18 <freaktechnik> (not necessarily, if the processor has 64bit support depending on the VM layer it might work, but uh, don't rely on it) 19:22:20 <Tonnes> interesting.. 19:30:10 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:33:09 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 19:56:04 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:18:51 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 20:20:47 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 20:37:28 <-- Aryx has quit (Quit: Goodbye) 20:43:08 --> satdav has joined #instantbird 21:07:51 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 21:08:45 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 21:20:51 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:22:18 <-- satdav has quit (Quit: Leaving) 21:23:23 <-- unghost has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:41:26 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 21:57:28 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:57:28 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 21:59:47 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:01:25 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Connection closed) 22:19:26 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 51) 22:25:08 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 22:25:08 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 22:25:10 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 22:29:10 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:39:29 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 23:22:50 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: Leaving) 23:42:07 <-- Bollebib has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:58:15 --> Alex1 has joined #instantbird