#instantbird log on 08 04 2016

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03:44:25 <instant-buildbot> build #3258 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3258
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04:28:59 <instant-buildbot> build #781 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/781
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17:33:16 <abdelrhman> clokep_work: In your data form's review, why is using of alert not good?
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18:03:32 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: What bug?
18:03:42 <abdelrhman> bug 1269331
18:05:03 <clokep_work> Did instantbot disappear? :(
18:05:33 <abdelrhman> bug 1269331
18:05:35 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: So mostly throwing a modal dialogue in peoeple's way is a bad user expereince.
18:05:36 <aleth> instantbot: botsnack
18:05:37 * instantbot beams
18:05:50 <clokep_work> Because it means they can't interact w/ the rest of IB.
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18:08:40 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: Does that make sense?
18:09:54 <clokep_work> I'm unsure I'm explaining myself clearly. :( Maybe flo or aleth can do a better job of why we don't like modals.
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18:10:14 <aleth> I don't know the context, but modal dialogues are usually also a bad experience for the user because you pop up another window that has to be dismissed rather than providing the information in the place where it can be acted upon.
18:11:44 <clokep_work> aleth: Context is "errors during data form submission"
18:12:29 <aleth> Stupid example: if you are entering a date and the date is invalid, it is frustrating and not very elegant to pop up a modal window that says "invalid date" instead of just putting a red border around the date or an error message under the date or something like that.
18:13:07 <abdelrhman> Ah
18:14:47 <aleth> Note the HTML <input> element already has built in checks if you set the type correctly 
18:15:25 <aleth> e.g. type="email" should have a red border if the content isn't a valid email
18:15:54 <aleth> there's also x-moz-errormessage
18:16:31 <aleth> There's bound to be online tutorials on mdn or elsewhere on this kind of thing
18:18:40 <abdelrhman> Yeah, I know some of notes that you have mentioned. Also I use required tag 
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18:23:38 <abdelrhman> sorry required attribute.
18:24:10 <abdelrhman> BTW, seems this (https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/HTML/Element/input) has all information about that.
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22:38:56 <clokep_work> arlolra: So why do we need 0002-System-messages-shouldn-t-need-preparation-for-displ.patch?
22:39:11 <clokep_work> What is it breaking?
22:39:34 <arlolra> it's a bug, i believe
22:40:37 <arlolra> system message don't have any protocol specific formatting that would preparation before displaying
22:44:23 <clokep_work> Thanks.
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