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00:03:07 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 00:34:26 --> bgmCoder has joined #instantbird 02:08:40 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 02:13:01 <instant-buildbot> build #3244 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3244 03:34:55 <-- bgmCoder has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 04:06:31 <instant-buildbot> build #771 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/771 04:40:17 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 05:18:33 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:29:00 --> bogdan_maris has joined #instantbird 05:56:25 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 06:32:40 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 07:27:37 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 07:35:49 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 07:36:32 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 07:55:26 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 08:12:58 <instantbot> New Chat Core - General bug 1289038 filed by intermittent-bug-filer@mozilla.bugs. 08:12:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1289038 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Intermittent leakcheck | default process: 152 bytes leaked (CancelableRunnable, ExternalRunnableWrap 08:39:01 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 09:58:16 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 10:23:30 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 10:23:48 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 10:26:20 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 10:26:34 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 10:34:09 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 10:59:24 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 10:59:25 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 11:02:32 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:07:22 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 11:07:22 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 11:28:31 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 11:43:09 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:48:00 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 11:48:00 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 11:51:34 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 11:52:21 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 12:01:31 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 12:01:48 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 12:19:08 <instantbot> New Chat Core - XMPP bug 1289110 filed by ab@abahmed.com. 12:19:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1289110 nor, --, ---, ab, ASSI, Handle delayed delivery for presence stanzas 12:22:44 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:22:44 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:38:29 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:42:04 <-- flo-retina has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 12:43:58 <abdelrhman> aleth: I think of working on destroying room (XEP-0045 section 10.9) as I think we do not have urgent features that should be supported sooner till the review of Data Forms is finished 12:44:21 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 12:44:21 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 12:47:06 <aleth> abdelrhman: I don't understand why we need this - does IB create persistent rooms? 12:48:28 <abdelrhman> Currently, No 12:48:34 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 12:48:41 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 12:49:03 <abdelrhman> as the configuration of the room requires data forms 12:49:03 <aleth> Then it doesn't seem urgent. How about xep-0115, account cancellation or message carbons instead? 12:49:19 <aleth> None of these should require UI work 12:50:51 <clokep_work> Message carbons sounds useful. :) 12:51:20 * abdelrhman is reading the XEP of message carbons now 12:59:51 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 12:59:57 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 13:13:58 * abdelrhman likes the idea of message carbons 13:14:30 <abdelrhman> but the status of its XEP is still "Propose" 13:14:44 <abdelrhman> Proposed 13:15:25 <aleth> It's been stable since 2008, I think it's close to standard now. 13:16:22 <abdelrhman> BTW, I think we'll need UI work to allow enabling and disabling it 13:16:30 <aleth> It's status is "draft", so it's basically a release candidate 13:16:45 <aleth> Just add an advanced account option 13:16:59 <clokep_work> Why can't it always be enabled? 13:17:16 <aleth> I agree we should enable it by default 13:17:28 <abdelrhman> we need to send a request to the sever in case enabling or disabling it 13:17:39 <aleth> clokep_work: Maybe a hidden pref is enough? 13:17:52 <abdelrhman> http://xmpp.org/extensions/attic/xep-0280-0.6.html#enabling 13:18:05 <aleth> abdelrhman: that's just implementation details 13:18:48 <clokep_work> aleth: Why even a hidden pref? 13:18:51 <aleth> clokep_work: I suspect the tor guys would want to disable it. 13:19:15 <clokep_work> That's reasonable. ;) 13:19:32 <aleth> And I don't know what long-time XMPP user's preferences on it would be, that's why I suggested exposing it 13:19:55 <abdelrhman> I'm not sure when we enable it for a specific client, close the client, open client again to reconnect. Do we need to re-enable or assume it's enabled? 13:20:24 <aleth> Set it during connection. 13:21:25 <abdelrhman> OK 13:21:36 <aleth> "The server SHOULD NOT treat multiple enable requests (without an intermediate disable request) as an error" 13:23:46 <aleth> abdelrhman, clokep_work: If you don't think some users might see message carbons as noisy, it should definitely be a hidden pref only and not in the advanced options. 13:24:04 <clokep_work> aleth: I'm not 100% sure how it will feel once we turn it on. 13:24:10 <clokep_work> But I really only use one client... 13:24:39 <aleth> Yeah... the main use case for this is people with a mobile and a desktop client I guess 13:26:14 <aleth> abdelrhman: Let's just make it a hidden pref for now and test it in nightlies 13:26:24 <abdelrhman> OK 13:26:47 <abdelrhman> and the default value of it is "on"? 13:26:52 <aleth> yes 13:29:24 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 13:29:35 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 13:33:30 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:42:05 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:44:44 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 14:01:17 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection closed) 14:03:16 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 14:03:50 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 14:03:50 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 14:22:48 <clokep_work> aleth: I wonder if you saw bug 1288959? 14:22:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1288959 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, IRC changes nick to "undefined" when private message person changes nick 14:22:55 <clokep_work> You probably know the TB UI better than me. 14:22:56 <clokep_work> (Or flo-retina.) 14:41:28 <aleth> Doesn't ring a bell. 14:51:28 <-- bogdan_maris has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:12:34 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 15:15:27 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 15:16:31 --> bgmCoder has joined #instantbird 15:19:28 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:20:09 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 15:29:53 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 15:30:00 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 15:30:22 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I haven't touched (or read) the TB UI in a long while :-/. 15:52:36 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 50) 15:53:45 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 15:56:47 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:39:02 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:47:08 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 17:09:27 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:10:18 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 17:42:00 <-- Mook_as has quit (Client exited) 17:48:44 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 18:31:25 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:26:36 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 19:28:34 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 19:30:44 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 19:41:25 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 20:07:30 <-- unghost has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 20:08:49 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 20:24:16 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:28:07 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 47.0.1/20160623154057]) 20:32:28 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 20:40:39 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 20:46:30 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 21:23:21 <-- boklm has quit (Quit: leaving) 21:28:22 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:34:27 <-- Mook has quit (Connection closed) 21:34:51 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 21:39:44 --> boklm has joined #instantbird 21:54:29 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:54:30 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 21:58:39 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.40/20160118183220]) 22:07:24 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:50:10 --> EionRobb1 has joined #instantbird 22:52:47 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:16:22 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 50) 23:38:24 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 23:59:28 <-- Bollebib has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)