#instantbird log on 05 24 2016

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01:43:40 <instantbot> New Chat Core - XMPP bug 1275136 filed by ab@abahmed.com.
01:43:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1275136 nor, --, ---, ab, ASSI, Implement attention (XEP-0224)
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14:30:42 <freaktechnik> have fun implementing the new char counter for twitter^^
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14:33:25 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: Can you at least provide a link?
14:33:42 <freaktechnik> I can https://blog.twitter.com/en-gb/2016/coming-soon-express-even-more-in-140-characters
14:34:16 <freaktechnik> so essentially don't count links to other tweets and @replies
14:34:26 <freaktechnik> though I'm not sure if that'll be all @replies or not.
14:34:33 <freaktechnik> Don't know their metadata format well enough
14:34:41 <clokep_work> I think it will just work.
14:35:01 <freaktechnik> because twitter provides the counter?
14:35:39 <clokep_work> Yes.
14:35:43 <clokep_work> No.
14:35:53 <clokep_work> Because Twitter provides a configuration which we feed into their JS library.
14:36:06 <clokep_work> We might need to update our Tiwtter library, which arlo already did...
14:36:29 <freaktechnik> I see, handy.
14:36:45 <freaktechnik> I guess with the whole secret link shortening you already needed something like that.
14:37:18 <clokep_work> Yep!
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14:38:45 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: https://dev.twitter.com/rest/reference/get/help/configuration
14:40:38 <freaktechnik> well, that currently doesn't contain what will be needed, but hey, they just announced what will be happening and not how it'll affect the API.
14:40:46 <freaktechnik> But one would assume that'd have impact there.
14:40:59 <instantbot> New Chat Core - Twitter bug 1275284 filed by clokep@patrick.cloke.us.
14:41:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1275284 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Ensure Twitter code will still work after changes to character limit
14:42:21 <clokep_work> I think it mostly is covered already.
14:42:24 <clokep_work> You set the lengths to 0.
14:42:49 <freaktechnik> not sure normal links will be affected, though. They only say "media" that you attach...
14:43:10 <freaktechnik> I guess not counting mentions would have to happen in the lib though...
14:52:00 <clokep_work> "media" and "links" are considered separate from that API already.
14:52:33 <clokep_work> "characters_reserved_per_media": 24,
14:52:34 <clokep_work>  "short_url_length": 23,
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15:14:33 <freaktechnik> oh, didn't see that.
15:16:30 * aleth wonders if freaktechnik has a patch to show images in tweets, after all that work on showing images in messages ;)
15:17:34 <freaktechnik> not really, because my current means of allowing images has been labelled as "unsafe"
15:18:43 <aleth> no doubt it would be optional
15:19:04 <aleth> "New Tweets that begin with a username will reach all your followers." sounds like a big change?
15:19:14 <freaktechnik> that's badly worded
15:19:20 <freaktechnik> they only do if you retweet them
15:19:27 <freaktechnik> is the consensus currently
15:19:59 <freaktechnik> else we're just back to twitter before... like 2010?
15:32:34 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: What method is this of showing images?
15:32:39 <clokep_work> Btw I'd really like medai to expand in messages.
15:33:15 <freaktechnik> globally allow image tags and all values for the src tag.
15:33:31 <freaktechnik> I heard something about protocol specific stuff, but never found anything.
15:35:10 <freaktechnik> (I think that's just images witin the message text, as smileys are handled differently)
15:39:13 <clokep_work> I don't think there's protocol specific things.
15:39:18 <aleth> iirc there's a dropdown in preferences->content, if showing certain inline media was an option it would probably go there
15:39:32 <clokep_work> Twitter is also *slightly* different because we're told about images, we aren't scraping tthem from the UI.
15:39:49 <aleth> But maybe it would be a twitter protocol option, yeah.
15:45:57 <freaktechnik> I think just an "image preview" could potentially justify its own thing, since there are other protocols that have embedded images too. However for twitter you'd want multiple images (up to 4 I think)
15:46:41 <freaktechnik> (oh, I also whitelisted srcset because I have hidpi versions of the images I embed)
15:47:09 <freaktechnik> making it a distinct thing would potentially also allow there to be more control about how such images would be shown.
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16:02:34 * clokep_work wonders if freaktechnik has seen bug 955011
16:02:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955011 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Inline received media
16:05:25 <freaktechnik> no, I've just seen it's brother bug about images in general. Where we determined that there is this use case outlined in this media bug and my use case of message-specific emotes.
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