#instantbird log on 05 12 2016

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01:23:55 <nhnt11> http://techcrunch.com/2016/05/10/whatsapp-desktop-client
01:24:01 <nhnt11> "WhatsApp launches desktop apps for Mac and Windows"
01:24:52 <EionRobb1> its just the same as their web offering though, relaying messages to an online phone :(
01:25:14 <nhnt11> Yeah
01:25:41 <nhnt11> EionRobb1: What I find most funny is that it seems to be a wrapper for WhatsApp Web, and yet the OS X app is 135MB!!!!
01:25:53 <EionRobb1> yuck
01:25:58 <EionRobb1> what do they bundle into it?
01:26:24 <nhnt11> Ideally they should be using a web view provided by OS X, but I would guess they are shipping a browser engine of some sort (Webkit?)
01:26:54 <nhnt11> hmm, it might not be a wrapper
01:27:00 <nhnt11> but it looks exactly the same
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02:25:54 <instant-buildbot> build #3166 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3166
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04:18:30 <instant-buildbot> build #694 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/694
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13:21:29 <clokep_work> nhnt11, EionRobb: They're probably building it on top of Electron or whatever. So you get node + a billion packages to display a website. ;)
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16:44:00 <Mook_as> Hmm, Slack.app (another Electron-based website wrapper) is only ~40MB.
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17:46:51 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Stop raining on my parade.
17:46:55 <clokep_work> :P
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18:23:40 <freaktechnik> but it's still stupid to install a browser per app, even if it's just 40MB.
18:23:56 <freaktechnik> because what if it has vulnerabilites? So every app has to update?
18:26:29 <clokep_work> Yea.
18:26:30 <clokep_work> I agree.
18:28:37 <freaktechnik> (which is the reason why mozilla wants to kill other XULR based apps ;) )
18:29:17 <Mook_as> Yep. That's why everybody should be using IWebBrowser2 instead :)
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19:37:38 <freaktechnik> I wish we'd have something like the browser embedding on android, just open to other browsers and everywhere.
19:39:00 <freaktechnik> (and I realize that it's not that simple)
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19:57:50 <EionRobb> freaktechnik: why not? Cordova works with windows, osx and Ubuntu targets 
19:58:56 <freaktechnik> Because multiple rendering engines sharing the same embedding interfaces is almost impossible.
19:59:30 <freaktechnik> because one wants to draw tiles, the other one wants a buffered surface, and one wants an unbuffered, unscrolled surface that gets scrolled by the client etc.
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