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03:24:32 <instant-buildbot> build #3146 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3146
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20:10:41 <clokep_work> Promises. \o/
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20:12:56 <freaktechnik> async functions \o/
20:13:15 <clokep_work> Mehhhhhh.
20:13:23 <clokep_work> Callbacks /o\
20:13:29 <freaktechnik> weeel
20:13:36 <freaktechnik> in theory you still ahve cbs with promises
20:13:41 <freaktechnik> you just hide them cleverly
20:13:49 <freaktechnik> that's why async functions are nice
20:13:52 <freaktechnik> they get rid of them.
20:13:57 <freaktechnik> (at least in the front end code)
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20:14:48 <clokep_work> True enough. :)
20:14:52 <clokep_work> So yes actually I agree. :)
20:14:59 <clokep_work> Sorry I had no idea what you meant by async functions.
20:15:12 <clokep_work> Although I'd probably argue that you even have callbacks in that case...they're just autogenerated. :-D
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20:15:16 <clokep_work> YAY META-NESS.
20:15:37 <freaktechnik> also, would you rather https://github.com/freaktechnik/justintv-stream-notifications/blob/3.0.0/lib/providers/youtube.js#L280-L332 or https://github.com/freaktechnik/justintv-stream-notifications/blob/master/lib/providers/youtube.js#L332-L376 (just from looking at it)
20:15:54 <freaktechnik> yes, they are hidden away deep inside the semantics.
20:17:38 <freaktechnik> the biggest draw-back of using async functions is that you need try-catch blocks or add .catch(() => pretendNothingsWrong) to everything. Bot feel nasty
20:17:53 <freaktechnik> if forces you to do proper error handling and I don't wannu
20:18:26 <clokep_work> Or just let the error bubble and disappear? :P
20:18:37 <clokep_work> Twisted has an awesome thing that it logs uncaught errors from it's promises.
20:18:37 <freaktechnik> "use strict"; much?
20:18:39 <clokep_work> (Deferreds)
20:18:44 <clokep_work> Fuck strict.
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20:19:01 <freaktechnik> yes, default promises also get "An unhandled promise rejection happened somewhere" warnings.
20:19:04 <clokep_work> Meh... "fetch" API does't seem to have a way tog et a URL and return a document as the response. :(
20:19:05 <aleth> clokep_work: that was recently added to gecko too
20:19:05 <freaktechnik> and they fail unit tests.
20:19:19 <clokep_work> Where we're going, we don't need tests.
20:19:24 <freaktechnik> well, I like es6 modules. And they have strict mode by default :P
20:19:39 <clokep_work> Meh, modules.
20:19:55 <freaktechnik> you're right, structured reusable code sucks
20:20:03 <clokep_work> No, the state of JS modules sucks.
20:20:09 <freaktechnik> that is true
20:20:19 <freaktechnik> since es6-modules are kind of a half-assed thing.
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23:24:00 <CuriousLearner> clokep-M: hello
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