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00:17:05 --> Alex3 has joined #instantbird 00:20:42 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 00:28:39 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 00:28:39 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 00:34:44 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 00:43:14 <-- bgmCoder has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 01:00:17 --> EionRobb1 has joined #instantbird 01:02:13 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 01:45:57 <-- mpmc has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 02:50:51 <instant-buildbot> build #3136 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3136 04:08:14 <instant-buildbot> build #665 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_6] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/665 04:11:01 <instant-buildbot> build #3138 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3138 04:42:27 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 04:53:11 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 05:30:35 <-- Bollebib has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 05:33:27 <-- EionRobb1 has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 06:34:37 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 06:34:38 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 06:50:05 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 07:37:28 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 07:40:05 --> bogdan_maris has joined #instantbird 07:53:31 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 07:53:32 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 08:23:55 <-- durwasa_dc has quit (Connection closed) 08:26:44 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:39:55 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 08:40:34 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 08:44:44 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 08:52:54 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:12:50 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 09:31:16 <-- matthew-M has quit (Connection closed) 09:31:16 <-- clokep-M has quit (Connection closed) 09:36:33 --> matthew-M has joined #instantbird 09:37:58 --> clokep-M has joined #instantbird 09:53:50 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 09:55:58 <flo-retina> the current bustage seems to be because we are missing this rule: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/app/Makefile.in#118 09:58:33 <-- matthew-M has quit (Connection closed) 09:58:33 <-- clokep-M has quit (Connection closed) 10:03:51 --> matthew-M has joined #instantbird 10:05:15 --> clokep-M has joined #instantbird 10:12:07 <-- Alex3 has quit (Connection closed) 10:12:18 --> Alex3 has joined #instantbird 10:13:43 <-- Alex3 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:29:19 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 10:36:15 <aleth> what does the blocklist actually block? certain addons? 10:40:32 * aleth is wondering if IB actually needs it 10:40:45 <flo-retina> flawed plugins, and broken graphics drivers I think 10:46:50 <aleth> mail/ has an explicit mail/app/blocklist.xml. It doesn't get built as I had assumed. 10:48:49 <flo-retina> suite/ too 10:48:50 <aleth> So if IB ships it it would have to be added and manually updated... 10:49:01 <aleth> Not sure what the right thing to do is 10:49:13 <flo-retina> isn't the mail/ one copied from the browser/ one using a bot? 10:49:24 <flo-retina> can we ship ../../mail/app/blocklist.xml ? ;) 10:52:54 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 10:53:02 <aleth> IB already ships nsBlocklistService.js, but it seems to be lacking the prefs that enable it :P 10:54:29 <flo-retina> are you saying we could just remove the line from package-manifest? 10:55:43 <aleth> that would probably break something. I am wondering if including blocklist.xml actually does anything without adding the prefs 10:56:32 <aleth> I guess what I am asking is whether at some point you decided it wasn't worth including 10:56:56 <flo-retina> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/toolkit/mozapps/extensions/AddonManager.jsm seems to use it too 10:57:06 <flo-retina> I didn't make any such decision, non 10:57:07 <flo-retina> *no 10:58:43 <aleth> obviously it's not as crucial for IB to disable old java versions etc 11:00:18 <-- FilipMosner has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:03:40 --> FilipMosner has joined #instantbird 11:09:24 <flo-retina> aleth: well, if they are installed system-wide, we may end up having trouble with plugins too 11:09:37 <flo-retina> I'm not sure if a webpage has to attempt to use them for them to start having effect 11:09:58 <aleth> I recently landed a patch disabling them by default, but yeah, if a user overrides that... 11:11:16 <aleth> Seems better to ship it properly. 11:18:25 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 12:03:55 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited) 12:21:51 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 12:25:43 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 12:26:18 <-- clokep-M has quit (Connection closed) 12:26:18 <-- matthew-M has quit (Connection closed) 12:30:52 --> matthew-M has joined #instantbird 12:32:22 --> clokep-M has joined #instantbird 12:49:11 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:49:11 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 14:33:09 --> bgmCoder has joined #instantbird 14:37:43 <-- clokep-M has quit (Connection closed) 14:37:43 <-- matthew-M has quit (Connection closed) 14:40:32 --> matthew-M has joined #instantbird 14:42:01 --> clokep-M has joined #instantbird 15:57:35 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:00:52 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 16:21:43 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 16:29:34 --> durwasa has joined #instantbird 16:33:25 <flo-retina> aleth: hmm... is it OK for us to ping the Mozilla servers for block list updates? :-S 16:33:46 <aleth> I don't know. 16:35:08 <aleth> Not setting the url pref would avoid that. 16:35:22 <aleth> (There's a try/catch) 16:36:22 <-- durwasa has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:36:28 <flo-retina> do we know what the "Kinto blocklist preferences" preferences are for? 16:36:43 <aleth> Cert revocation, afaik 16:38:08 <flo-retina> I don't know how I feel about that patch 16:38:21 <flo-retina> sending requests to AMO with Instantbird as the app id seems wrong 16:38:47 <aleth> Me neither. I thought you'd know better than me ;) 16:40:20 <aleth> Might be better to just comment out the url prefs. 16:41:47 <flo-retina> I'm not a great fan of commented out stuff 16:45:25 <aleth> well, or something like https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8867729 16:45:44 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:49:39 <flo-retina> aleth: looks OK to me. 16:50:19 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:51:46 --> durwasa has joined #instantbird 16:52:36 <-- bogdan_maris has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:05:17 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:07:45 <clokep_work> aleth: Are there docs on cert pinning badness/goodness/? 17:08:07 <clokep_work> Als....what will all that do for us? 17:08:27 <aleth> clokep_work: idk, I just saw comments in the tree. 17:08:34 <clokep_work> :P 17:08:43 <clokep_work> Can I be lazy and ask for a source or something? 17:08:46 <clokep_work> I can probably grep that pref. 17:10:33 <aleth> All I did is take the value from browser/. Then I thought I'd hand it on to you because you did the cert stuff ;) 17:12:10 <aleth> There's https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/b2g/app/b2g.js#250 and the comments in https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/security/manager/ssl/tests/unit/test_pinning.js#6 17:13:39 <clokep_work> WTF is libpref: https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/modules/libpref 17:14:38 <clokep_work> aleth: https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/security/certverifier/CertVerifier.h#101 17:14:51 <clokep_work> Looks like 1 or 0 is what we want, yes. 17:18:39 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:13:35 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 18:13:35 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 19:09:02 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 19:21:57 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:22:04 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 19:31:51 <-- mpmc has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 19:35:45 <-- durwasa has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:45:19 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:45:29 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 19:45:29 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 19:49:31 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:50:44 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:51:23 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 19:51:23 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 19:57:17 --> CuriousLearner has joined #instantbird 19:59:37 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 20:01:36 <-- CuriousLearner has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:14:49 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 20:16:43 --> CuriousLearner has joined #instantbird 20:24:16 <-- CuriousLearner has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [Firefox 43.0.4/20160106234723]) 20:52:02 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:53:42 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 21:00:19 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Connection closed) 21:04:24 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 21:05:02 <-- Bollebib has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:19:12 <-- bgmCoder has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:31:08 --> bgmCoder has joined #instantbird 21:42:51 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:05:48 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:07:24 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 22:20:12 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 22:20:12 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 22:46:15 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 22:55:42 <-- unghost has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 23:13:52 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:28:29 <clokep_work> 7:25:43 PM - aleth: is that messenger api good for actual messages, or just for wechat type stuff? 23:28:29 <clokep_work> 7:26:08 PM - clokep_work: Huh? 23:28:29 <clokep_work> 7:26:12 PM - clokep_work: Messenger API for what? 23:28:29 <clokep_work> 7:26:16 PM - aleth: fb 23:28:29 <clokep_work> 7:26:30 PM - clokep_work: Sorry, I don't have context into what we're discussing. 23:28:29 <clokep_work> 7:26:32 PM - aleth: https://messengerplatform.fb.com/ 23:28:29 <clokep_work> 7:26:38 PM - clokep_work: Last I checked the messenger API doesn't let you send message.s 23:28:29 <clokep_work> 7:27:04 PM - aleth: that's why I'm asking, because https://developers.facebook.com/docs/messenger-platform/send-api-reference 23:28:29 <clokep_work> 7:27:12 PM - clokep_work: Oh interesting. 23:28:29 <clokep_work> 7:28:01 PM - aleth: But maybe the only allowed "from" is the app itself 23:28:35 * clokep_work wonders if EionRobb has looked at this at all. 23:28:58 <clokep_work> aleth: The intro to that section says "We've added new tools for you to build and promote your bot so you can create a custom experience for your unique audience." 23:29:03 <clokep_work> So I suspect it's only about Bots. 23:29:10 <EionRobb> yeah, bots 23:29:25 <EionRobb> similar to the skype sdks that got published recently 23:29:34 <EionRobb> all about the bots, bout the bots, bout the bots 23:30:07 <clokep_work> I don't give a shit about bots. 23:30:10 <clokep_work> Personally. :) 23:30:21 <clokep_work> I was never a big fan of Blade Runner. 23:33:33 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: Instantbird 48) 23:37:01 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)