#instantbird log on 03 18 2016

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02:03:03 <mdhr> Hey, does the GTalk plugin work at all right now? I tried using my usual account, but auth kept failing so I figured it must be because I have 2 Phase auth enabled on that account. 
02:03:22 <mdhr> But when I tried it with an account that didnt have that auth turned on, it still didnt allow login and I get this email: http://imgur.com/NVmxZSh
02:09:40 <mdhr> Could it be because gtalk is trying to use http://www.google.com/talk/protocol/auth as the URL for auth, and its not secure? 
03:11:49 <instant-buildbot> build #637 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/637
03:13:42 <instant-buildbot> build #3106 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3106
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04:20:01 <durwasa> the build seems to have broken again https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8864156 
04:20:14 <durwasa> any idea how to fix it ?
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05:05:18 <durwasa> none of the revisions from the https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/shortlog [1] seems to complete my build ... I am trying hg update -r REV > It shows some files are changed and then the build fails again with  https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8864156 any help or should I clone it again ?
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05:55:09 <Anupkumar> durwasa: The following revisions work: 
05:55:20 <Anupkumar> comm-central: 5aff4df43e18
05:55:28 <Anupkumar> mozilla-central: 45382cd65651
05:57:14 <durwasa> Anupkumar, can you walk me through the mercurial commands please ?
05:57:24 <durwasa> hg update -r 5aff4df43e18
05:57:45 <Anupkumar> durwasa: | hg up <rev> |
05:59:34 <durwasa> Anupkumar, after which the ./mozilla/mach build ?
06:01:34 <Anupkumar> yes
06:02:15 <durwasa> Anupkumar, ya i hv been doing that but the build stops with an error message
06:02:29 <Anupkumar> what is the build message now?
06:03:14 <durwasa> Anupkumar, https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8864159
06:05:48 <Anupkumar> did you update the mozilla-central also to the above mentioned revision?
06:07:08 <durwasa> yes cd mozilla-central followed by hg update -r  45382cd65651
06:10:56 <Anupkumar> durwasa: there is no folder called mozilla-central in the comm-central directory
06:11:23 <durwasa> yep i mean cd .. and then followed by cd mozilla-central
06:11:47 <Anupkumar> okay, you got it totally wrong 
06:12:09 <Anupkumar> there is a folder called "mozilla" inside the comm-central directory
06:12:51 <Anupkumar> so, inside the comm-central directory, do a  | cd mozilla |
06:13:12 <Anupkumar> and then do | hg up 45382cd65651 |
06:13:32 <durwasa> ohhooo -_- 
06:13:36 <Anupkumar> and then do a ./mozilla/mach build in the comm-central directory
06:13:47 <durwasa> very sorry for the trouble 
06:15:13 <durwasa> Anupkumar, +1 works like charm ... thankyou :) 
06:16:48 <durwasa> spoke too soon 
06:16:55 <durwasa> found new error 
06:16:57 <durwasa> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8864160
06:17:22 <Anupkumar> hehe
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06:19:17 <durwasa> :D i thought the build would succeed ... Anupkumar 
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07:18:17 <jsmaniac> durwasa: have you enabled any extensions in your hgrc file while building ? because those 2 above mentioned revs worked for me 
07:19:12 <jsmaniac> trying building with a plain hgrc file with nothing but the paths set, as in the simple build instructions page 
07:20:46 <durwasa> jsmaniac, not much just mercurial queue was set to Ue mode for editor thats it 
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13:43:51 <clokep_work> mdhr: I literally use it everyday.
13:45:23 <clokep_work> jsmaniac: Your hgrc has nothign to do with building.
13:45:39 <clokep_work> durwasa: You're telling configure to build the purple extension, but I doubt you checked it out.
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13:47:01 <jsmaniac> I told durwasa to disable purple in .mozconfig and i guess it worked . clokep_work , yeah i realized that it was not the .hgrc that has anything to do , it is the .mozconfig 
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14:49:07 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 1257859 filed by clokep@patrick.cloke.us.
14:49:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1257859 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Cannot filter by account in awesometab
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15:13:55 <freaktechnik> so.. SDK extensions would now actually work in instantbird ;) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1248734
15:13:57 <instantbot> Bug 1248734 nor, --, mozilla48, nobody, RESO FIXED, Fix SDK startup on Instanbird
15:14:24 <freaktechnik> (but that's everything that's tailored to instantbird in the add-on SDK, so no worries)
15:24:34 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: Neat. :) Good that you added Thunderbird too!
15:24:46 <freaktechnik> thunderbird was already there
15:24:54 <freaktechnik> that's why it's red above ;)
15:24:56 <clokep_work> Oh. I'm just blind then.
15:25:07 <freaktechnik> it's just a , that I added to the thunderbird line
15:28:04 <clokep_work> Yeah. I read it wrong. :)
15:28:07 <clokep_work> Well thanks!
15:28:52 <freaktechnik> It's just part in a bigger plot ;) https://github.com/freaktechnik/twitch-provider/issues/10
15:40:08 <clokep_work> Neat. :)
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16:47:19 <flo-retina> mdhr: it just means you need to go check or uncheck something in some relatively hidden Google settings page.
16:47:32 <flo-retina> oops, auto-scroll fail :-S.
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20:59:01 <nhnt11> jsmaniac: thanks for doing that research!
20:59:48 <nhnt11> jsmaniac: FWIW, I personally use WhatsApp a LOT, and have been brainstorming for ways to use it in Ib for quite a while.
21:00:45 <nhnt11> At one point I was considering writing an Android app that would "mediate" between WhatsApp and Ib
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21:02:16 <nhnt11> I considered everything from trying to somehow access WhatsApp's database (I vaguely recall reading somewhere that this isn't possible anymore because of encryption, I might be wrong), to using accessibility APIs to programatically interface with WhatsApp's UI
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21:02:50 <nhnt11> But my conclusion was mostly that it'd be too hacky to be worth the effort, and certainly not something we could ship with Ib anyway
21:03:11 <jsmaniac1> I am currently looking into how whatsapp web works, maybe something useful may come up 
21:03:40 <nhnt11> At some point I had a WIP for a WhatsApp Web tab in Ib, but I gave up when I realized that web sockets weren't working for some reason (I didn't try very hard to make it work)
21:04:24 <nhnt11> anyway, even if there is some way to make everything work, it would likely require quite a bit of discussion to get the UX right.
21:05:26 <nhnt11> Considering there are 7 days till the application deadline, I personally am not confident that a student new to our community could come up with an acceptable solution and implementation timeline.
21:05:42 <nhnt11> clokep_work: thoughts? ^
21:06:27 <jsmaniac1> nhnt11: an interesting read :) http://hayageek.com/web-whatsapp-qr-code/
21:06:30 <nhnt11> jsmaniac1: please feel free to study WhatsApp Web, I'd be thrilled if it turns out there's an easy way to piggyback on whatever it's doing.
21:07:32 <jsmaniac1> I am am on it, I am using charles proxy to see the endpoints its using and the how the QR code magic is working, it is particularly interesting to me how swiftly the data syncs the moment we scan the QR code :)
21:07:48 <nhnt11> jsmaniac1: I doubt the data all syncs at once
21:08:07 <nhnt11> It's probably only retrieving the conversation list (which can probably be crammed into a few kilobytes)
21:08:15 <nhnt11> And thumbnails for user profile pictures
21:08:39 <nhnt11> I'd guess it retrieves message history on demand
21:08:48 <jsmaniac1> you mean first only contacts , and then we click on a contact sync chat right ? yeah makes sense 
21:08:51 <nhnt11> (or at least, asynchronously)
21:08:57 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Not sure why websockets wouldn't work, but yeah...
21:09:29 <jsmaniac1> whatsapp web is entirely based on websockets . it has 8 wss endpoints 
21:09:49 <jsmaniac1> from w1.web.whatsapp.com to w8.web.whatsapp.com
21:09:53 <nhnt11> jsmaniac1: Also, WhatsApp Web takes a full 3 seconds to load on my connection. That's not very fast ;)
21:10:07 <nhnt11> (I'm on a very fast corporate line)
21:10:37 <jsmaniac1> the major loading time is to retrieve the QR code i guess , it is the only major thing in that page apart from websocket pings 
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21:10:54 <mdhr> flo-retina, clokep_work : Creating an app specific password fixed it. Thanks! 
21:10:54 <nhnt11> no, I have the "remember" option ticked
21:11:21 <nhnt11> mdhr: Damn, I was going to hint about app specific passwords when I saw your email and totally forgot. Sorry :(
21:11:35 * nhnt11 hopes you didn't waste too much time on that
21:11:53 <mdhr> But why does it require that? Why is IB considered an insecure app in the first place? 
21:12:26 <nhnt11> mdhr: It's not considered "insecure", it just doesn't support Google's 2FA api.
21:12:42 <jsmaniac1> you guys talking about app specific passes for hangouts implementation ?
21:12:55 <nhnt11> Google allows app specific passwords as a workaround for clients like Ib (and email clients too!)
21:13:15 <nhnt11> jsmaniac1: mdhr had trouble connecting his GTalk account on Ib because he had 2 factor auth enabled.
21:13:35 <jsmaniac1> ohhh yeah remembered that ok
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21:15:35 <clokep_work> mdhr: Glad it worked. :)
21:15:44 <clokep_work> mdhr: We don't support OAuth.
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21:16:31 <jsmaniac> also everyone read this link , https://duo.com/blog/bypassing-googles-two-factor-authentication
21:17:36 <mdhr> Are there plans to work on that? :) 
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21:17:54 <nhnt11> mdhr: Well we kinda want to replace the gtalk prpl ;)
21:17:58 <clokep_work> jsmaniac: Sure, that's a well known issue with Application Specific Passwords and why they want you not to use them.
21:19:28 <clokep_work> mdhr: Adding OAuth support? I think a abdelrhman was plannign to look at it.
21:19:36 <clokep_work> There's an annoying thing about it though.
21:19:46 <clokep_work> I think that it doesn't tell you if your password is wrong or something stupid.
21:19:51 <clokep_work> We should probably just add it at this point though.
21:19:53 <clokep_work> Check the bug.
21:19:54 <mdhr> nhnt11: Right... So we'd do Oauth2 in the JS protocol then?
21:20:02 <clokep_work> mdhr: Yes.
21:20:26 <mdhr> The existing implementations are all based on that, so I guess it makes sense. 
21:20:30 <mdhr> :) 
21:20:34 <clokep_work> On what?
21:20:42 <mdhr> They all use OAuth2
21:20:54 <clokep_work> What existing implementations?
21:20:56 <clokep_work> I'm confused.
21:21:00 <clokep_work> mdhr: Btw you're hitting bug 1238631
21:21:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1238631 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Google talk cannot login when enable 2-factor auth
21:21:12 <mdhr> Hangouts, not on IB, the other ones in Python and C++
21:21:22 <clokep_work> I thought we were talking about XMPP.
21:21:26 <mdhr> It's not just 2FA btw. 
21:21:27 <clokep_work> For Hangouts we'll have to use OAuth, yes.
21:21:50 <mdhr> For regular accounts as well, I need to lower my security setting to allow low security apps through
21:22:04 <mdhr> (and those settings are default. I've not upped them or anything)
21:22:06 <clokep_work> Interesting. I didn't know they added that to their XMPP stuff, fun.
21:22:35 <clokep_work> Regardless of it being for just 2FA or not doesn't really matter though if we're saying we should add it. :P
21:24:21 <jsmaniac> FWIW for hangouts, all of the projects out there are using a specific app id and secret that belong to the ios hangouts app i guess, tdryer told me :)
21:24:45 <clokep_work> Yes, why's that surprising?
21:24:56 * clokep_work is really confused by this conversation.
21:24:56 <clokep_work> Bye
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22:05:59 <clokep_work> So is there more oauth questions are we all set? :P
22:08:31 <clokep_work> or are we...
22:16:51 <aleth> m.wikipedia.org is so much cleaner than wikipedia.org :P
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22:21:31 <mdhr> clokep_work: Should I look into that bug, then? bug 1238631 
22:21:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1238631 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Google talk cannot login when enable 2-factor auth
22:22:14 <clokep_work> mdhr: If you'd find it interesting / useful, sure!
22:22:18 <clokep_work> Did you ever look at that Yahoo issue?
22:23:48 <mdhr> I looked at the code you asked me to refer, but only briefly. I'm catching up on all those today. Exams just ended. 
22:23:51 <mdhr> :)
22:24:06 <nhnt11> mdhr: I hope they went well!
22:24:35 <mdhr> Thanks :)
22:26:53 <clokep_work> Right. :)
22:27:02 <clokep_work> I have no concept of education schedules anymore. :P
22:27:14 * nhnt11 suspects they were mid-terms
22:28:12 <mdhr> Yep!
22:28:23 <mdhr> Finals in a month. 
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22:38:48 <clokep_work> nhnt11: You ever unfinished bitrotting your patches?
22:38:55 <clokep_work> I filed another awesometab bug. :P
22:39:08 <nhnt11> clokep_work: yes, they're unbitrotted
22:39:23 <nhnt11> I want to make some changes, I'll attach patches when I get a chance
22:39:57 <clokep_work> Sweet. :)
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