#instantbird log on 02 18 2016

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00:00:53 <nhnt11> looking
00:02:14 <aleth> clokep_work: if you run mach xpcshell-test chat, do the other tests run ok?
00:02:35 <flo-retina> clokep_work: try "test" instead of "xpcshell-test"
00:02:48 <clokep_work> aleth: Yes.
00:03:03 <aleth> weird
00:03:03 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes. :-S
00:03:05 <clokep_work> Dafuq.
00:03:20 <flo-retina> does that mean success?
00:03:40 <nhnt11> huh
00:04:37 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes.
00:04:42 <flo-retina> ah :)
00:05:01 <aleth> but why
00:05:06 <flo-retina> I had differently frustrating experiences with the xpcshell-test command
00:05:22 <flo-retina> it was failing to take into account my parameter giving the test folder, and running ALL the xpcshell tests of the tree
00:05:42 <flo-retina> that got fixed after a couple weeks, but was painful enough to make me stop trusting/using that command, and getting used to just using "test" instead
00:07:42 <clokep_work> :(
00:07:55 <flo-retina> note: "test" is less typing ;)
00:10:19 <clokep_work> Yeah I had no idea it existed. :)
00:10:21 <clokep_work> Thanks so much!
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00:11:30 <flo-retina> np
00:12:09 * flo-retina wonders if he earned cookies :-P
00:14:34 <clokep_work> Maybe! :)
00:17:25 <EionRobb> lol
00:19:22 <clokep_work> aleth, nhnt11: Bah I'm feeling dumb ATM...if I have an object... function Foo() {} Foo.prototype = {}...what happens if I set Foo.bar?
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00:19:33 <clokep_work> Is that accessible in a good way at all?
00:19:46 <freaktechnik> yes
00:19:49 <clokep_work> (I have a list of constants associated with a packet, trying tof igure out the best way to store them.)
00:20:24 <nhnt11> clokep_work: should be fine
00:20:31 <nhnt11> I assume you want to set the property on an initialized object?
00:20:35 <aleth> do you mean "what is (new Foo).bar"?
00:20:49 <nhnt11> i.e. |var o = new Foo(); o.bar = bla|
00:21:09 <clokep_work> No, I mean if I set it on an uninitialized object, is it available on the object.
00:21:10 <aleth> because new Foo will only look at the prototype
00:21:27 <clokep_work> Foo.bar = blah; o = new Foo(); o.bar = ??
00:21:40 <aleth> undefined, I think
00:22:03 <clokep_work> Why do objects suck so much in JavaScript? :P
00:22:06 <aleth> it's called "prototypical inheritance"
00:22:37 <nhnt11> clokep_work: it's undefined
00:22:41 <nhnt11> (I ran it on scratchpad)
00:23:04 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Thanks.
00:23:13 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Also I'm amazed you can actually get anything to work in scratchpad. :-\
00:23:15 <aleth> clokep_work: just do Foo.prototype.bar = ... ;)
00:23:20 <nhnt11> clokep_work: really?
00:23:22 <nhnt11> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8860139
00:23:25 <nhnt11> That's what I tried, btw
00:23:29 * nhnt11 finds scratchpad very useful
00:23:31 <clokep_work> aleth: But then you need an instance of it to access the property... :P
00:23:44 <aleth> there is that.
00:23:49 <clokep_work> nhnt11: I've never figured out how to get output from scratchpad.
00:23:52 <aleth> Also it'll be the same for all instances...
00:23:54 <clokep_work> So yes, I find it to be completely useless.
00:24:02 <aleth> clokep_work: same here
00:24:10 <clokep_work> I use the error console still.
00:24:13 <aleth> when I use it I end up using alert() to show output
00:24:18 <aleth> super annoying'
00:24:22 <nhnt11> clokep_work, aleth: Cmd+L to display output as a comment below the code
00:24:30 <nhnt11> (or click the "Display" button)
00:24:40 <clokep_work> OK...but WHY IS IT SHOWING IT AS COMMENTS?
00:24:46 <clokep_work> That's like the worst UI I've ever heard of.
00:24:57 <clokep_work> Also I don't know how to define what the 'output' is.
00:25:08 <nhnt11> clokep_work: Cmd+I might be better then?
00:25:32 <aleth> Cmd+W is pretty good.
00:25:41 <nhnt11> I mean, it'll be verbose, but it works for quick things
00:25:42 <nhnt11> aleth: lol
00:26:14 <aleth> nhnt11: I wish it was more like iPython or somethign like that
00:26:38 <nhnt11> aleth: that would be nice, yeah
00:27:23 <nhnt11> (I guess you could do that in node, if you don't need Mozilla specific stuff)
00:28:58 <Mook_as> It's always been easier to test via the js shell in https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/extension-developer/ for me
00:30:07 * nhnt11 shrugs
00:31:02 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Yep I had a snippet for Komodo which ran stuff. :)
00:31:06 <clokep_work> Hmm...
00:31:16 <clokep_work> Are strings not instance of String? :P
00:31:53 <aleth> they aren't?
00:32:00 <nhnt11> they are, aren't they?
00:32:16 <aleth> maybe you have to use typeof
00:32:37 <aleth> another one of those confusing JS things
00:32:38 <nhnt11> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/String
00:32:50 <nhnt11> Search for "Distinction between string premitives and String objects"
00:32:52 <nhnt11> weird
00:33:17 <nhnt11> "JavaScript automatically converts primitives to String objects, so that it's possible to use String object methods for primitive strings."
00:36:00 <clokep_work> aleth, nhnt11: http://stackoverflow.com/a/203757/1070085
00:36:27 * clokep_work has tests passing \o/
00:38:01 <nhnt11> hmm
00:38:26 <nhnt11> apparently you can also do |var foo = String("foo")| and |typeof foo| will give you "string"
00:38:38 <nhnt11> (i.e. if you don't use the new keyword, it gives you a primitive)
00:38:49 <nhnt11> Js is weird :-/
00:38:54 <aleth> I bet that's deprecated
00:39:34 <aleth> but will never go away ;)
00:40:12 <nhnt11> doesn't say it's deprecated on MDN
00:40:12 <clokep_work> Heh "Js is weird :-/" is such an understatement.
00:42:20 * aleth still likes [] + [] 
00:42:49 <nhnt11> hah
00:43:15 <aleth> just in case you ever need to obfuscate an empty string ;)
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01:12:49 <freaktechnik> hmm, I've tried https://gist.github.com/freaktechnik/c6d84b4c78002106af7b as a fix for bug 953706, however it doesn't work for fast-moving chats, but is just fine for chats where it's not scrolling multiple messages at once...
01:12:51 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=953706 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Scrolling new messages into view doesn't work for messages with big emoticons
01:19:46 <bgmCoder> Hello again.  Can someone help me get my office365 account connected?
01:19:52 <bgmCoder> (please)
01:21:12 <bgmCoder> We have our own office365 domain
01:21:49 <bgmCoder> what authentication scheme do I use?  we have Azure
01:22:30 <EionRobb> I didn't know that there was a sipe plugin for instantbird
01:22:35 <bgmCoder> I've googled for this info
01:22:45 <bgmCoder> EionRobb: there is - you have to use the 1.6 beta
01:22:54 <bgmCoder> it's called "Office Communicator"
01:23:10 <bgmCoder> I just found that out here today
01:31:33 <bgmCoder> Anyone have any clue for the settings?
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01:35:53 <bgmCoder> I get: Timestamp: 2/17/2016 7:34:42 PM
01:35:53 <bgmCoder> Error: Couldn't look up SRV record. DNS name does not exist. (9003).
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04:54:45 <instant-buildbot> build #607 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/607
04:57:07 <instant-buildbot> build #3076 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3076
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16:35:08 <bgmCoder> Hey, is there a way to get SMS into Instantbird?  I have a google voice account with a cell number that way.
16:38:19 <clokep_work> Bug 954120 / bug 954203 seem related.
16:38:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954120 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Add Google Talk (XMPP) to SMS transports
16:38:23 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954203 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Inability to make/recieve Google Voice Calls
16:38:25 <clokep_work> But the short answer is 'no'.
16:39:56 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: ^
16:41:33 <bgmCoder> okay - just checking on that.  Thanks for answering.
16:43:15 <clokep_work> I don't think Google Voice has an API. :-S
16:43:24 <clokep_work> EionRobb might know if there's a libpurple plug-in for it.
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16:47:11 <bgmCoder> Say, clokep_work, would you be willing to help me get the settings correct for my o365?
16:47:45 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: Probably. ;) I'm not convinced that works with SIPE though.
16:47:59 <bgmCoder> okay, I can accept that
16:48:11 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: Did you read that somewhere?
16:48:16 <bgmCoder> won't be any worse off from trying than I am now
16:48:35 <bgmCoder> read that it works with o365?  no
16:48:45 <bgmCoder> I read where Pidgin has a plugin that works though
16:50:00 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: That's exactly what I'm asking you. ;)
16:50:03 <clokep_work> Where did you read that?
16:50:17 <bgmCoder> oh - okay!  hold on a sec...
16:50:38 <bgmCoder> https://sourceforge.net/p/sipe/wiki/How to setup an account/#lync
16:50:55 <clokep_work> I wonder how out of date our code is there.
16:51:01 <clokep_work> IIRC I added that code before Office 365 existed.
16:51:06 <bgmCoder> I've been trying to use that how to configure my own settings
16:52:34 <aleth> clokep_work: didn't you update libpurple just recently?
16:54:46 <clokep_work> aleth: That's not part of libpurple.
16:54:54 <clokep_work> aleth: And no, if you remember we couldn't compile bonjour.
16:55:19 <aleth> ah yeah, that library problem
16:55:30 <clokep_work> Bah...
16:55:37 <clokep_work> Did we ever move our table of third party code anywhere?
16:56:22 <flo-retina> isn't it still on wiki.i.o?
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16:59:13 <clokep_work> flo-retina: You can't edit that anymore...
16:59:20 <clokep_work> Looks like we have 1.18.0 currently...
16:59:51 <flo-retina> we made it read only?
17:00:08 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Yes. There was a lot of spam.
17:00:24 <aleth> Also most of it was moved.
17:01:08 <aleth> not that one though https://old.etherpad-mozilla.org/ib-wiki
17:02:32 <clokep_work> I think I wasn't really sure where to put it...
17:02:45 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: So I don't see anything initially obvious that upgrading would help.
17:03:34 <bgmCoder> you mean "would help" to make Office Communicator work?
17:03:41 <clokep_work> Yes
17:03:48 <bgmCoder> I was just hoping you'd help me get the settings right
17:03:52 <clokep_work> So what's your configuration? Are there any errors after trying the settings?
17:03:57 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: Yes. I'm asking you that now. :P
17:04:02 <bgmCoder> haha
17:04:05 <bgmCoder> okay, hold on
17:04:39 <clokep_work> And to be clear, you do go office365.com to read your email and such, right? :)
17:04:57 <bgmCoder> It's office365, yes, but I use Thunderbird :)
17:05:07 <clokep_work> :)
17:05:28 <bgmCoder> We have our own office365 domain
17:06:09 <bgmCoder> I go to portal.office.com
17:06:40 <bgmCoder> no wait; it's outlook.office365.com
17:06:45 <clokep_work> Yeah
17:06:54 <bgmCoder> outlook.office365.com/owa
17:06:57 <clokep_work> Yeah
17:07:39 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: So my initial guess is you want to change the Authentication Scheme to TLS-DSK
17:07:41 <bgmCoder> so I've got my password set correctly...
17:07:54 <bgmCoder> and I've got authentication scheme set to TLS-DSK
17:08:00 <bgmCoder> connection type: auto
17:08:12 <bgmCoder> don't publish my calendar (whatever that means)
17:08:35 <clokep_work> Do you have a user agent set?
17:08:46 <bgmCoder> and everything else is default (I can't see what's in the edit boxes, but I CAN edit the values if I copy them out and then replace them)
17:09:01 <bgmCoder> no user agent
17:09:21 <clokep_work> https://sourceforge.net/p/sipe/wiki/How%20to%20setup%20an%20account/#office-365-account says it "must be set"
17:09:26 <clokep_work> I'd try copying what's in that image.
17:09:29 <bgmCoder> I get error 9003 : DNS name does not exist
17:10:15 <clokep_work> Hmm...did you typo your account name?
17:10:28 <clokep_work> And you included the full account name, right? bgmCoder@yourcompany.com?
17:10:41 <bgmCoder> yes, I used the full email address
17:10:45 <bgmCoder> and it's correct
17:10:54 <clokep_work> Hmm... :-S
17:10:59 <bgmCoder> I have no proxy
17:11:17 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: Right click on the account > "show debug log" anything in there or just that error?
17:11:30 <EionRobb> Lync has weird dns discovery, especially with office365 accounts 
17:11:48 <bgmCoder> nothing in the debug log
17:11:53 <clokep_work> Yeah, but I'd expect it to work on office365. ;)
17:11:58 <bgmCoder> I'm working on the user agent hting
17:12:02 <clokep_work> OK.
17:12:19 <clokep_work> We, unfortunately, destroyed our DNS records for Office 365 or I'd try with my Office 365 account. :-D
17:12:32 <bgmCoder> UCCAPI/15.0.4745.1000 OC/15.0.4745.1000
17:12:38 <EionRobb> I can paste the settings I use in pidgin if that helps 
17:13:13 <bgmCoder> EionRobb - sure, I'd try it, thanks
17:13:58 <bgmCoder> even with the user agent I get DNS query failed
17:14:07 <bgmCoder> dnsquery: purple_dnsquery_failed
17:14:48 <clokep_work> It sounds like it's failing before even trying to log in...of course that log line is useless since pidgin isn't logging what query failed. :P
17:14:52 <bgmCoder> I'm going to rebuild the account again
17:15:06 <bgmCoder> when the wizard asks for the username, I understand the username box
17:15:22 <bgmCoder> but what is "Login user or DOMAIN\user or user@company.com:"  mean?
17:15:26 <bgmCoder> what do I put there?
17:15:37 <EionRobb> http://i.imgur.com/sHkRfm1.png 
17:15:55 <bgmCoder> thanks, EionRobb
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17:16:35 <EionRobb> http://i.imgur.com/4bTaeAp.png 
17:16:50 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: You likely leave it blank or put the same thing.
17:18:24 <bgmCoder> ah, okay, now something's happening
17:18:28 <clokep_work> :)
17:18:44 <bgmCoder> unhandled presence stanza
17:19:18 <bgmCoder> in the error log - but I don't think that's from this account
17:19:50 <clokep_work> Generally it's better to look at an individual account's debug log. :)
17:20:31 <bgmCoder> it's not making a debug log
17:20:47 <bgmCoder> and it's now not adding anything to the error console...
17:20:50 <bgmCoder> weird
17:20:56 <clokep_work> Does it just say "Connecting..." still?
17:20:59 <bgmCoder> yes
17:21:02 <clokep_work> You might need to increase logging...
17:21:11 <bgmCoder> but now it says "failed to authenticate to server"
17:21:51 <clokep_work> Cool, so I'd guess your password is wrong OR you're using the wrong authentication mechanism OR our code is old and we don't support the proper authentication mechanism.
17:22:19 <bgmCoder> I'm going to try again with that "log user or domain" part
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17:23:51 <bgmCoder> my account in the account manager always shows a , or . at the end of my address
17:23:58 <bgmCoder> even thought I did not type that
17:24:18 <bgmCoder> http://i.imgur.com/3KGDhQs.png
17:24:47 <bgmCoder> If I add my address in that second box in the wizard, then it shows myemail,myemail
17:25:01 <bgmCoder> maybe it's just the display
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17:31:02 <bgmCoder> if I go to the about:config - I can see that under messenger.account.account9.name - my account name has a trailing comma
17:32:17 <clokep_work> bgmCoder: That's fine.
17:32:30 <clokep_work> It's how the accoutn name is stored, but the protocol splits it back apart.
17:32:43 <bgmCoder> I hate to give up
17:33:08 <clokep_work> You could try using Pidgin + the plug-in and ensure the settings work...if they do it likely means we have to update that code inside IB.
17:33:28 <bgmCoder> I guess that's one way to go about it
17:34:08 <bgmCoder> Is there an office365 setting that has to be set?
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17:39:28 <clokep_work> I don't think so.
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17:39:38 <clokep_work> But I've never tried to connect it to O365, so I'm not sure.
17:39:56 <clokep_work> Eion Robb's example had a hostname hard-coded, but you're clearly reaching a host since it says the authentication failed.
17:40:55 <bgmCoder> well - I was trying to use that same server and port
17:41:03 <bgmCoder> I saw that in the Pidgin docs, too
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19:23:27 <EionRobb> I had to use that hostname because our dns wasn't set up for auto discovery
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