#instantbird log on 01 07 2016

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03:43:07 <instant-buildbot> build #3030 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/3030
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05:09:36 <instant-buildbot> build #561 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_6]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/561
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10:03:33 <FilipM> suggest: tab list on side (left/right) like pidgin ;)
10:04:03 <aleth> Use the vertical tabs addon? ;)
10:23:28 <nemzes> hi; I'm using the nightly build on OS X with SIPE protocol (Lync). Instantbird hangs quite frequently (1-2 times a day) and leaves a zombie process even when force-quitted. Any ideas on how to help debug the cause?
10:36:49 <aleth> nemzes: you might want to talk to clokep in a couple of hours when he comes online, he's been working on SIPE
10:37:35 <nemzes> aleth: cool; I'll hang around :)
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13:51:10 <aleth> We're a bit broken by Bug 1220564 
13:51:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1220564 nor, --, mozilla46, shu, RESO FIXED, Remove legacy array/generator comprehension.
13:51:17 <aleth> likely should disable updates
13:55:12 <flo-retina> what do you mean?
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13:55:29 <flo-retina> we haven't had a successful nightly build in days
13:55:39 <aleth> oh :-(
13:55:48 <aleth> well, if we did, they'd be buggy ;)
13:56:01 <flo-retina> there's some SIPE brokeness, clokep is on it.
13:56:13 <flo-retina> and on linux the intermittent usual failure is now permanent for some reason
13:56:21 <flo-retina> well, permanent on the slave, but I can't reproduce on my thinkpad
13:56:39 <aleth> permanent *and* hard to debug, great...
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14:38:59 <nemzes> clokep_work: I'll repeat my question from earlier since apparently you're the one to ask…
14:39:13 <nemzes> clokep_work: I'm using the nightly build on OS X with SIPE protocol (Lync). Instantbird hangs quite frequently (1-2 times a day) and leaves a zombie process even when force-quitted. Any ideas on how to help debug the cause?
14:40:50 <clokep_work> nemzes: Hmm...I'm not entirely sure.
14:41:02 <clokep_work> Has it always done this or did it start w/ a recent update?
14:43:02 <clokep_work> aleth misrepresented me a bit. :P I'm not really working on SIPE, just getting our nightlies building again.
14:43:20 <clokep_work> I did add the SIPE protocol, I don't use it any longer though (I've changed companies and no longer have access to their Lync servers).
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15:06:54 <nemzes> ah ok
15:06:57 <nemzes> it's always done it
15:07:50 <nemzes> tbh I'm not 100% sure it is SIPE, but it seems the most likely suspect (didn't do it until I added it, although I only used IB for a day before that)
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15:26:03 <clokep_work> Hmm...
15:26:05 <clokep_work> Let me think about it.
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20:18:41 <instantbot> florian@queze.net changed the Resolution on bug 1234168 from --- to WORKSFORME.
20:18:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1234168 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Accounts get connected without using the proxy settings
20:27:35 <flo-retina> I can't stand that mac mini noise anymore :-/
20:27:54 <flo-retina> I'm probably going to just turn it off, and set it to start automatically at 4am, like the previous mac slave used to do.
20:28:18 <aleth> Time to build that power-up-on-lan box? ;)
20:28:27 <flo-retina> not yet
20:28:33 <flo-retina> but oh well, could be
20:28:48 <flo-retina> it's just that in my mind I wanted to build the physical space to put all the slaves on it first
20:29:34 <flo-retina> but I guess that device could also work with just the mac slave + the linux64 slave (the 32bit one is currently powered off as it makes no sense to keep running a machine that has no change to build whatsoever)
20:29:41 <EionRobb> do you have one of those mac mini's with the overheating problems?  we had one and without a lie drilling holes in the case made a huge difference to temperature and noise
20:32:32 <flo-retina> the temperature doesn't seem high
20:32:37 <flo-retina> it's the fan that is super noisy
20:35:06 <flo-retina> it probably ingested a lot of dust over the years
20:35:21 <flo-retina> especially as it kept on building while a lot of construction work happened in the house
20:35:39 <flo-retina> could also be that the CPU fan just needs replacing
20:35:44 <flo-retina> as the noise started about 3 days ago
20:36:11 <flo-retina> that fan wasn't audible before, except when the machine was building and using 100% of the 8 execution threads
20:37:13 <flo-retina> ah, looks like it's super easy to access/replace: https://fr.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac+Mini+Mid+2011+Fan+Replacement/6387
20:37:22 <flo-retina> err https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Mac+Mini+Mid+2011+Fan+Replacement/6387
20:39:40 <aleth> so much easier than in laptops ;)
20:39:51 <flo-retina> so much easier than in the previous generation of minis ;)
20:39:56 * flo-retina has opened way too many of these
20:47:46 <flo-retina> I cleaned up the inside of that machine (there was indeed a lot of dust), but that didn't change the noise
20:47:53 <flo-retina> I suspect I need to order a new fan
20:51:20 <flo-retina> alright. I turned it on with cover removed. When I put a finger on the CPU fan the noise stops. I think that fan is dead.
20:53:12 <EionRobb> wow, crazy :)
20:53:48 <flo-retina> I also replaced my old macbook's fan this year, and it completely changed/removed the noise
20:54:00 <flo-retina> but the macbook is from 2008 so the fan had a reason to be tired....
20:54:16 <flo-retina> that mac mini is from 2012, "only" 4 years old
20:54:26 <flo-retina> err, no, November 2012.
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21:13:07 * flo-retina ordered one.
21:13:33 <clokep_work> Can you order me a pizza while you're at it? :)
21:15:06 <flo-retina> sure. If it's delivered in Lille, are you still interested? :)
21:18:47 <flo-retina> alright, the machine will boot at 4am (nightlies start at 4:10am) and shutdown at 8am (successful nightlies typically finish around 6am)
21:19:10 <flo-retina> maybe I don't really need the new fan after all, as I'll never hear that machine anymore :)
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23:09:38 <abdelrhman> There is a problem in IB after building it because array comprehensions are no longer supported
23:09:54 <abdelrhman> bug 1220564
23:09:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1220564 nor, --, mozilla46, shu, RESO FIXED, Remove legacy array/generator comprehension.
23:13:03 <aleth> abdelrhman: thanks, yes, see Bug 1237602
23:13:05 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1237602 blo, --, ---, geoff, ASSI, Port Bug 1220564 - Remove legacy array/generator comprehension for comm-central
23:48:20 <flo-retina> in bug 1237385, why is that code moved to a JS module rather than to a normal .js file included with a <script> tag in the xul files?
23:48:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1237385 nor, --, ---, ab, NEW, deduplicate populateProtoSpecificBox
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