#instantbird log on 11 10 2015

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00:41:14 <jkl> instant biiiiiiirrrrrrrrrd.
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03:13:26 <instant-buildbot> build #498 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/498
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13:10:15 <flo-retina> aleth: so, why do we not need to include package-name.mk anymore in build.mk to have $(BUILDID) ?
13:13:28 <aleth> idk, wasn't it your suggestion that the late assignment would mean BUILD_ID was already set?
13:13:33 <aleth> maybe I misunderstood
13:13:43 <flo-retina> no
13:13:54 <flo-retina> I don't really understand the second patch either
13:14:04 <flo-retina> if you do in a makefile
13:14:04 <flo-retina> FOO = blah blah
13:14:26 <flo-retina> then blah blah will only be executed at the time something else that runs uses $(FOO)
13:15:30 <aleth> right
13:15:55 <flo-retina> so I don't understand why you are moving the GRE_MILESTONE = blah line
13:16:25 <aleth> I moved it inside an ifdef
13:16:49 <flo-retina> it seems only the DEFINES += needs to be inside the ifdef
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13:17:01 <aleth> The 'obvious' thing to do would be to mark those lines as depending on platform.ini but that doesn't work because of the crazy split build system
13:17:03 <flo-retina> I'm not really sure why we are entering that makefile several times though
13:17:16 <aleth> Me neither. I'm really confused by this
13:17:25 <flo-retina> you can't mark dependencies on variable settings
13:17:26 <aleth> Even at the end of the build it is run several times
13:17:49 <aleth> flo-retina: But you can mark dependencies on files which have rules to build them.
13:17:52 <flo-retina> the other thing that's confusing me is... are these patches meant to fix the warnings we've been seeing for weeks, or the current bustage?
13:18:26 <flo-retina> aleth: so you would need to mark the dependency on all files that depend on the value of the DEFINES variable
13:18:28 <aleth> Just warnings. They strangely don't cause bustage (because the same makefile just gets entered again later)
13:18:42 <flo-retina> I don't see how you would do that, given that they most likely are listed in a moz.build file rather that in the makefile
13:18:52 <aleth> Indeed
13:19:01 <flo-retina> so what's the bustage fix?
13:19:01 <aleth> The patch only "works" because the makefile gets run several times
13:19:08 <flo-retina> or do we not need to do anything about it right now?
13:19:13 <aleth> The bustage fix is a m-c patch pending review
13:19:18 <flo-retina> ah, awesome :)
13:19:42 <aleth> This platform.ini stuff is just a way to get a headache in a lunch break ;)
13:19:54 <flo-retina> ok
13:20:14 <aleth> I have no idea how you figure out why a Makefile is entered at any particular time
13:21:01 <flo-retina> there's usually a make -C <folder> <target> somewhere in some other makefile
13:21:16 <flo-retina> but in the Mozilla case, it's often hidden deep within the magic of rules.mk
13:21:29 <flo-retina> with stuff iterating over variables, etc...
13:21:30 <aleth> or in some output of the moz.build step
13:21:55 <aleth> It's also hard to know why the execution order changed (probably it's indeterminate)
13:22:05 <flo-retina> aleth: the output of moz.build parsing is just a .mk file in each folder that just contains lists that can be included in makefiles
13:22:44 <aleth> build systems are crazy :-|
13:24:40 <aleth> I guess the problem is that starting from scratch is completely impossible, so stuff just gets bolted on in layers
13:29:03 <flo-retina> there's that, yes
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14:01:42 <change> Nyone knows how to enlarge the conents list in instantbird? I'm new user
14:03:19 <flo-retina> which list?
14:11:04 <change> where your friends are loged on
14:11:37 <flo-retina> it's a resizable window, you can drag the bottom right corner to extend it
14:12:52 <change> yes but I like have bigger text to see their names
14:15:35 <flo-retina> ah, we don't have a setting for that currently. The easiest way is to change the font size globally in the operating system.
14:16:15 <change> oh ok
14:16:44 <change> thankyou
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21:42:36 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 1223173 from --- to WORKSFORME.
21:42:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1223173 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, xmpp is not proposed as a protocol in the wizard
21:47:36 <satdav> has the daily builds been fixed yet for instant bird
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22:39:06 <clokep> satdav: I think it's pending a patch to mozilla-central, nots rue it's been checked in yet.
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22:42:05 <aleth> OSX and Windows should be back now, Linux is pending.
22:42:30 <aleth> glandium had a fix but it's not got r+ yet
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22:56:24 <instant-buildbot> build #2965 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2965
22:57:17 <clokep> yay!
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