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13:13:28 <aleth> idk, wasn't it your suggestion that the late assignment would mean BUILD_ID was already set? 13:13:33 <aleth> maybe I misunderstood 13:13:43 <flo-retina> no 13:13:54 <flo-retina> I don't really understand the second patch either 13:14:04 <flo-retina> if you do in a makefile 13:14:04 <flo-retina> FOO = blah blah 13:14:26 <flo-retina> then blah blah will only be executed at the time something else that runs uses $(FOO) 13:15:30 <aleth> right 13:15:55 <flo-retina> so I don't understand why you are moving the GRE_MILESTONE = blah line 13:16:25 <aleth> I moved it inside an ifdef 13:16:49 <flo-retina> it seems only the DEFINES += needs to be inside the ifdef 13:16:58 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:16:58 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:17:01 <aleth> The 'obvious' thing to do would be to mark those lines as depending on platform.ini but that doesn't work because of the crazy split build system 13:17:03 <flo-retina> I'm not really sure why we are entering that makefile several times though 13:17:16 <aleth> Me neither. I'm really confused by this 13:17:25 <flo-retina> you can't mark dependencies on variable settings 13:17:26 <aleth> Even at the end of the build it is run several times 13:17:49 <aleth> flo-retina: But you can mark dependencies on files which have rules to build them. 13:17:52 <flo-retina> the other thing that's confusing me is... are these patches meant to fix the warnings we've been seeing for weeks, or the current bustage? 13:18:26 <flo-retina> aleth: so you would need to mark the dependency on all files that depend on the value of the DEFINES variable 13:18:28 <aleth> Just warnings. They strangely don't cause bustage (because the same makefile just gets entered again later) 13:18:42 <flo-retina> I don't see how you would do that, given that they most likely are listed in a moz.build file rather that in the makefile 13:18:52 <aleth> Indeed 13:19:01 <flo-retina> so what's the bustage fix? 13:19:01 <aleth> The patch only "works" because the makefile gets run several times 13:19:08 <flo-retina> or do we not need to do anything about it right now? 13:19:13 <aleth> The bustage fix is a m-c patch pending review 13:19:18 <flo-retina> ah, awesome :) 13:19:42 <aleth> This platform.ini stuff is just a way to get a headache in a lunch break ;) 13:19:54 <flo-retina> ok 13:20:14 <aleth> I have no idea how you figure out why a Makefile is entered at any particular time 13:21:01 <flo-retina> there's usually a make -C <folder> <target> somewhere in some other makefile 13:21:16 <flo-retina> but in the Mozilla case, it's often hidden deep within the magic of rules.mk 13:21:29 <flo-retina> with stuff iterating over variables, etc... 13:21:30 <aleth> or in some output of the moz.build step 13:21:55 <aleth> It's also hard to know why the execution order changed (probably it's indeterminate) 13:22:05 <flo-retina> aleth: the output of moz.build parsing is just a .mk file in each folder that just contains lists that can be included in makefiles 13:22:44 <aleth> build systems are crazy :-| 13:24:40 <aleth> I guess the problem is that starting from scratch is completely impossible, so stuff just gets bolted on in layers 13:29:03 <flo-retina> there's that, yes 13:45:56 --> Family_Fun has joined #instantbird 13:47:34 <-- Family_Fun has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) 13:48:31 --> Family_Fun has joined #instantbird 13:49:44 * Family_Fun is now known as change 14:01:42 <change> Nyone knows how to enlarge the conents list in instantbird? I'm new user 14:03:19 <flo-retina> which list? 14:11:04 <change> where your friends are loged on 14:11:37 <flo-retina> it's a resizable window, you can drag the bottom right corner to extend it 14:12:52 <change> yes but I like have bigger text to see their names 14:15:35 <flo-retina> ah, we don't have a setting for that currently. The easiest way is to change the font size globally in the operating system. 14:16:15 <change> oh ok 14:16:44 <change> thankyou 14:53:47 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 15:35:25 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:39:59 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:40:26 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:40:26 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 16:42:37 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:42:37 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 16:55:30 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:04:10 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 17:04:44 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:05:56 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 17:05:56 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 17:22:56 <-- hadi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:25:20 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:25:42 --> myk1 has joined #instantbird 17:29:34 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:29:34 * myk1 is now known as myk 17:34:19 <-- arlolra has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:47:17 <-- flo-retina has quit (Connection closed) 17:47:52 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 17:47:52 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 17:50:08 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 17:52:45 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:02:59 <-- flo-retina has quit (Connection closed) 18:04:37 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 18:04:37 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 18:23:28 --> pWnnn has joined #instantbird 18:25:14 --> PingWiN has joined #instantbird 18:27:30 <-- pWnnn has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:52:34 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:52:34 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 19:05:56 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 20:01:16 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:07:17 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 20:14:32 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 20:27:07 <-- change has quit (Quit: Textual IRC Client: www.textualapp.com) 20:28:29 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 21:13:58 --> satdav has joined #instantbird 21:41:29 <-- PingWiN has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:42:36 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 1223173 from --- to WORKSFORME. 21:42:37 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1223173 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, xmpp is not proposed as a protocol in the wizard 21:47:36 <satdav> has the daily builds been fixed yet for instant bird 21:51:44 --> myk1 has joined #instantbird 21:55:24 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:55:24 * myk1 is now known as myk 22:04:09 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:06:15 --> aleth1 has joined #instantbird 22:06:15 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth1 22:08:46 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:08:46 * aleth1 is now known as aleth 22:24:08 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:38:13 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:38:13 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 22:39:06 <clokep> satdav: I think it's pending a patch to mozilla-central, nots rue it's been checked in yet. 22:39:46 --> myk has joined #instantbird 22:42:05 <aleth> OSX and Windows should be back now, Linux is pending. 22:42:30 <aleth> glandium had a fix but it's not got r+ yet 22:50:47 <-- satdav has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:55:55 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:56:24 <instant-buildbot> build #2965 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2965 22:57:17 <clokep> yay! 23:23:21 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:32:01 --> myk has joined #instantbird 23:39:58 --> EionRobb1 has joined #instantbird 23:40:35 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:47:38 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:51:14 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 23:55:02 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)