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12:32:55 <aleth> It's the same as TB, iirc there's a m-c fix pending review 12:38:20 <clokep> Got it. :) Thanks! 12:43:07 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:58:18 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: :tiuQ) 12:58:23 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:58:24 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 12:58:39 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 12:58:39 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 13:02:41 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:08:24 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:18:02 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird 13:21:13 <-- hadi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:21:59 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:26:16 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 13:26:16 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 13:30:18 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:31:33 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 13:31:34 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 13:48:46 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:48:46 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 14:01:59 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:02:06 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 14:02:06 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 14:15:39 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:31:14 <clokep_work> Looks like __noSuchMethod__ is gone now...good thing we got rid of that. ;) 14:32:35 <aleth> maybe there's a __noSuchNoSuchMethod__ hidden as an easter egg? ;) 14:39:59 <aleth> Classes still aren't ready though. 14:47:14 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 14:47:14 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 14:47:42 <clokep_work> I'm not really convinced that JS classes will ever be a thing. :-\ 14:48:13 <aleth> I'm not convinced they're a good fit for JS either :-/ 14:48:38 <aleth> Then again, JS is the "a little bit of everything" language, so... 14:48:47 <-- afiksof has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:54:53 <clokep_work> I kind of like JS less and less as they add more and more to it. :-[ 14:58:33 --> nhnt11-testing has joined #instantbird 14:58:51 <-- nhnt11-testing has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:09:41 --> MikkCZ has joined #instantbird 15:10:38 <nhnt11> aleth: did anyone look at the tabbar colour thing? 15:10:43 <nhnt11> I'm looking at it now, if not 15:10:49 * nhnt11 is building 15:21:13 <clokep_work> nhnt11: All yours. 15:23:38 <nhnt11> hmm, might need to clobber 15:28:38 * nhnt11 should dig out his power adapter 15:30:50 <clokep_work> :) It'll go faster. 15:32:01 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:32:06 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 15:32:06 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 15:39:05 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 15:40:27 <nhnt11> hmm, No such file or directory: '/Users/nhnt11/Dev/comm-central/obj-instantbird/dist/bin/platform.ini' 15:41:35 <nhnt11> OK, I'm going to update all my stuff and try again 15:41:43 <clokep_work> nhnt11: That sounds like the current bustage? aleth? 15:41:43 <nhnt11> Might as well... 15:41:48 <clokep_work> nhnt11: I can give you working revs. 15:41:57 <nhnt11> ah, there's a known bustage? 15:42:00 <nhnt11> clokep_work: shoot 15:42:31 <clokep_work> nhnt11: I'm based on c-c: edf4c6759d74 / m-c: 05d85d9bbce4 15:42:40 <clokep_work> (Note that those are like a month old.) 15:42:48 <clokep_work> But they work. :-D 15:43:53 <nhnt11> Alright 15:50:00 <-- MikkCZ has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:56:10 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 15:59:52 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Those revs seem to be working? 16:01:21 <nhnt11> clokep_work: haven't tried, letting xcode update 16:01:27 * nhnt11 needs to find a power source 16:01:29 <clokep_work> Ah-ha. 16:06:57 --> MikkCZ has joined #instantbird 16:15:13 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:16:51 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:30:03 <-- hadi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:30:40 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:36:54 <-- MikkCZ has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:38:24 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 16:38:24 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 16:43:09 <nhnt11> Installing new command line tools... 16:43:10 * nhnt11 sighs 16:45:06 <nhnt11> Time for another build! 16:45:50 <nhnt11> clokep_work: Does that rev that you gave me have the tabstrip colour bug? 16:46:04 <clokep_work> nhnt11: uhh...doubtful. :( 16:46:12 <nhnt11> ok 16:46:14 <nhnt11> I'm searching the logs 16:46:22 <clokep_work> But it should at least let you get built first? 16:46:38 <nhnt11> yeah, but not much point if I can't repro the bug 16:47:02 <clokep_work> Yeah I know 16:47:04 <clokep_work> I didn't think of that. 16:47:06 <clokep_work> Sorry. :-[ 16:47:11 <nhnt11> np 16:47:20 <nhnt11> So the bug was filed on Oct 25 16:47:54 <nhnt11> hmm, better idea is just to check when the last nightly was 16:48:11 <nhnt11> Nov 6 16:48:55 * nhnt11 rolls back to c2edcb673601 16:49:14 <nhnt11> I should roll back m-c too I guess 16:49:40 * clokep_work doesn't know. 16:49:47 <nhnt11> Done 16:49:49 <nhnt11> building 17:01:56 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 17:19:20 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 17:21:17 <aleth> Applying the patch from bug 1222591 to m-c should get you a working build on OSX 17:21:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1222591 blo, --, ---, nobody, NEW, nsMsgUtils.cpp:52:10: fatal error: 'nsProtocolProxyService.h' file not found 17:22:26 <nhnt11> aleth: thanks 17:22:39 * nhnt11 's build from an older rev is almost done (or almost failed) 17:24:26 <nhnt11> success! 17:24:52 <nhnt11> Took just about 2.5 hours... sigh 17:25:07 --> nhnt11-testing has joined #instantbird 17:26:33 <nhnt11> Hmm, |Warning: Error in parsing value for '-moz-appearance'. Declaration dropped| in the error console 17:26:57 <nhnt11> I don't see that in my main profile though 17:30:33 <nhnt11> Ugh, DOM inspector is broken 17:30:48 <clokep_work> :-\ 17:31:20 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: :tiuQ) 17:31:32 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 17:31:33 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 17:31:59 <aleth> nhnt11: It's probably just that top-level let/const thing. Uploading a new version would be appreciated ;) 17:32:49 <nhnt11> Yeah, I see one of those in the error console 17:32:55 <nhnt11> I also see a this.mShell is null error 17:33:03 <-- nhnt11-testing has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:03:56 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:09:13 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 18:09:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 18:20:57 --> myk has joined #instantbird 18:22:17 --> myk1 has joined #instantbird 18:22:21 <-- myk1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:22:25 --> myk1 has joined #instantbird 18:22:29 <-- myk has quit (Connection closed) 18:22:29 * myk1 is now known as myk 18:23:59 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:36:11 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:40:02 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:40:05 --> myk has joined #instantbird 18:45:17 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:12:29 <Mook_as> Hmm, I've got a GTalk account (using one of those Apps for Business things) that hooks to external auth (which eventually goes to a SSL cert). How would I go about setting that up? 19:13:15 <clokep_work> Mook_as: App specific password? :-D 19:14:10 <Mook_as> Not sure that's actually an option 19:16:38 <clokep_work> Mook_as: So what do you mean by "external auth"? 19:17:04 <Mook_as> You know how the normal google login is a web page with a user name and a password field? 19:17:32 <Mook_as> The password field is unused; after the user name, it redirects to another web page for auth, and hands back a token of some sort 19:17:55 <Mook_as> (obviously tied together better, so it's just an extra redirect and stuff) 19:17:59 <clokep_work> Right. 19:18:05 <clokep_work> So it like oauths somewhere else? 19:18:08 <clokep_work> That's...craziness. 19:18:16 <clokep_work> I'm unsure. 19:18:21 <Mook_as> Yes, though I think it's actually SAML or whatever it's called 19:18:47 <clokep_work> I don't have any ideas ATM. 19:20:02 <Mook_as> "You're too weird" is a reasonable (if disappointing) answer. 19:21:46 <clokep_work> I'm unsure if it's doable or not. :-D 19:22:04 <clokep_work> It's possible we just need to implement the oauth XMPP stuff. 19:22:06 <clokep_work> And it would work. 19:22:08 * clokep_work shrugs. 19:23:24 <Mook_as> I suspect not (the password should basically never go to google), but yeah 19:23:29 * Mook_as shrugs 19:28:57 <clokep_work> :( 19:29:07 <clokep_work> Well in the oauth case...it would pop up a window. 19:29:11 <clokep_work> So maybe the redirect will magically work? 19:29:16 <clokep_work> s/window/web browser/ 19:33:28 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird 19:34:57 <clokep_work> that's why I was suggesting it. 19:36:25 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 19:40:22 --> MikkCZ has joined #instantbird 20:01:34 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:03:00 <-- afiksof has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:22:39 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 20:22:40 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 20:25:52 <freaktechnik> I'm always afraid /list on IMO breaks my speakers. 20:26:40 <aleth> There's a bug open for that, you should fix it ;) 20:26:59 <-- pWnnn has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:27:12 <aleth> i.e. to batch up sound events when they pile up 20:28:08 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 20:28:08 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 20:28:17 <freaktechnik> debounce() 20:28:37 <flo-retina> anybody's got any idea of what I'm supposed to do to fix " Fatal error: Cannot call overloaded function for non-object in /home/www/blog.instantbird.org/wp-includes/class-wp.php on line 442" on http://blog.instantbird.org/ ? 20:29:14 <clokep_work> Is "stop using PHP" a reasonable response? :-D 20:29:18 <clokep_work> </troll> 20:29:25 <flo-retina> you mean stop using wordpress? ;) 20:29:52 <clokep_work> :-D 20:30:08 <clokep_work> Did we upgrade our PHP version at some point and not our wordpress version? 20:30:08 <aleth> remove the thing you click to get the error? :D 20:30:20 <flo-retina> you mean the link to our blog? 20:30:43 <flo-retina> hmm http://blog.instantbird.com/ is interesting 20:31:09 <flo-retina> (although our links are all to .org so it's not a problem) 20:31:25 <freaktechnik> aleth: can't find a bug when searching for sound or audio. 20:32:58 <freaktechnik> but that reminds me, my tinkering with the account manager still doesn't work 20:34:03 * flo-retina is annoyed by that blog bustage coming out of nowhere 20:35:03 <aleth> freaktechnik: I can't find it either, maybe it just got talked about. 20:37:04 <MikkCZ> flo-retina: Try to enable WordPress debug. The output might me little more chatty and tell you, where the problem is. 20:37:20 <flo-retina> MikkCZ: will try, thanks. 20:37:27 <clokep_work> aleth, freaktechnik: I can't find it either. 20:37:32 <flo-retina> What I find really strange is that I touched _nothing_ on that server recently 20:37:42 <flo-retina> if it was after a php update or something I wouldn't be surprised 20:38:19 <MikkCZ> It can be even some "security" issue and someone (or some bot) broke the site. 20:38:38 <MikkCZ> Or maybe broken auto-update... 20:40:02 <EionRobb> http://i.imgur.com/1Skjydh.png is this the same line 442 as what you have? 20:40:09 <MikkCZ> Anyway it is in WordPress system file, so I assume it's something in WordPress itself. If the debug mode leads to nowhere, you might want to backup everything, delete all WordPress files and upload them again from the WordPress package. 20:43:16 <EionRobb> what version of wordpress? 20:44:33 <MikkCZ> Seems there is old WordPress 3.2.1. 20:46:06 <clokep_work> It's old, yes. 20:46:08 <MikkCZ> function init() { 20:46:08 <MikkCZ> wp_get_current_user(); 20:46:08 <MikkCZ> } 20:46:34 <MikkCZ> The wp_get_current_user() is the line 442. 20:46:49 <MikkCZ> If the file is not changed. 20:47:22 <EionRobb> is that a 4 year old version of wordpress? :O 20:49:30 <Mook_as> Is that the version of wordpress with unpatched security vulnerabilities? 20:49:43 <MikkCZ> According to readme.html, yes. 20:49:49 <EionRobb> "For example, WordPress 3.2.1 has 24 known vulnerabilities, and several of them will allow full access to your website. " 20:50:17 <EionRobb> http://www.cvedetails.com/version-list/2337/4096/1/Wordpress-Wordpress.html 20:50:34 <EionRobb> time to upgrade 20:52:33 <MikkCZ> I cannot call myself professional, but maybe intermediate WordPress admin. I will be here for about an hour today, so if you need my help, feel free to ping me. 20:53:19 <MikkCZ> In case you are really in the end, I can give it most of my Wednesday. 20:53:27 <clokep_work> MikkCZ: Thanks. :) 20:54:13 <MikkCZ> You're welcome. ;) 20:58:39 <freaktechnik> hm, so building im is currently broken? Because mach clobber didn't do its magical fixing job it normally dies... 20:58:41 <freaktechnik> *does 20:59:32 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: You need to apply a patch if you're using the tip, I think. 20:59:38 <clokep_work> It's in the logs from earlier today. :) 20:59:50 <clokep_work> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/151109/#m161 21:01:37 <freaktechnik> uh, no that won't help 21:01:54 <freaktechnik> because my build fails in im/app/moz.build 21:02:27 <freaktechnik> something about referencing an uppercase variable that does not exist, let me pastebin it. 21:03:43 <freaktechnik> https://pastebin.mozillla.org/8851734 21:04:26 <freaktechnik> I guess it even says the fix^^ 21:04:46 <freaktechnik> https://pastebin.mozilla.org/8851734 21:05:33 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: I think that was fixed like yesterday? 21:05:38 <clokep_work> Does hg incoming show anything? 21:06:02 <freaktechnik> nope. I just checked out, too 21:06:27 <freaktechnik> huh, yeah, if I open it locally it's LOCAL_INCLUDES 21:06:33 <freaktechnik> mach, you're drunk 21:06:43 <aleth> You just have to clobber. 21:06:46 <freaktechnik> I already did 21:06:57 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: I checked http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/c97151456e74 21:07:51 <flo-retina> Line 442 is indeed " wp_get_current_user();" 21:07:54 <freaktechnik> yep, clobbering doesn't fix it. 21:08:31 <freaktechnik> that's weird. 21:12:16 <flo-retina> enabling debug shows " Notice: Use of undefined constant user_level - assumed 'user_level' in /home/www/blog.instantbird.org/wp-content/plugins/ultimate-google-analytics/ultimate_ga.php on line 524" 21:13:16 <flo-retina> the modification date of that file is in 2011 though :-S 21:13:25 <MikkCZ> Ultimate Google Analytics hasn't been updated 8 years... 21:13:52 <flo-retina> how do I just disable that plugin? :) 21:13:55 <MikkCZ> Can you try to delete it/rename ultimate-google-analytics folder to disable the plugin? 21:14:08 <MikkCZ> :) Just rename the plugin folder. 21:14:35 <flo-retina> that doesn't help 21:14:49 <flo-retina> it gets rid of that Notice, but I still have the "Fatal error: Cannot call overloaded function for non-object in /home/www/blog.instantbird.org/wp-includes/class-wp.php on line 44" 21:16:31 <MikkCZ> I still see line 442 on the web. 21:16:50 <flo-retina> yes, that error is still here 21:19:11 <MikkCZ> Have you tried to remove all WordPress files and replace them with new ones from the original WordPress package? 21:19:38 <flo-retina> you mean from the package of the same version, or from the current version? 21:19:55 <flo-retina> (no I haven't tried that) 21:20:08 <MikkCZ> At first, I would try the 3.2.1 (can be downloaded from https://wordpress.org/download/release-archive/). 21:20:53 <flo-retina> thaks 21:21:01 <MikkCZ> You're welcome. 21:21:04 <flo-retina> I'll extract in a different folder and diff to see if stuff got corrupted 21:21:12 <MikkCZ> Good idea. 21:22:51 <MikkCZ> Only wp-config.php and wp-content (contains uploaded files, plugins and themes) folder should differ in most cases. 21:24:48 <flo-retina> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/2118869 21:25:45 <flo-retina> so... it looks like the files are all identical 21:29:45 <MikkCZ> Trying to get some saving idea - but no such comes. As in most systems, plugins or themes can still be the problem. 21:30:11 <flo-retina> I was wondering if I should try renaming all the plugins 21:30:26 <MikkCZ> Now I would try to disable the rest of the plugins one by one and see, if disabling any of them helps. 21:32:47 <flo-retina> hmm, new error " Warning: fopen(http://blog.instantbird.org/wp-cron.php?doing_wp_cron): failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! in /home/www/blog.instantbird.org/wp-includes/class-http.php on line 876" 21:32:58 <flo-retina> appeared only once 21:33:29 <flo-retina> almost wondering if I shouldn't just try to restart apache to see if that helps. 21:33:57 <MikkCZ> wp-cron is run every 10 minutes (I think). It probably fails for the same reason as the website itself. 21:34:23 <flo-retina> I just restarted apache 21:34:33 <flo-retina> the blog is displayed correctly, with " Warning: fopen(http://blog.instantbird.org/wp-cron.php?doing_wp_cron): failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! in /home/www/blog.instantbird.org/wp-includes/class-http.php on line 876" at the top of the page 21:34:40 <EionRobb> why did restarting apache make it work? 21:34:47 <flo-retina> EionRobb: I have no idea. 21:35:35 <MikkCZ> Well, I wouldn't expect that. 21:35:58 <MikkCZ> But congratulations it works. :) 21:36:01 <flo-retina> I assume that warning will go away if I disable debug; which means it's probably been there for years. 21:37:02 <EionRobb> how disappointing that the apache/php is only a year and a half old and not also 4 years old like your wordpress ;) 21:37:31 <clokep_work> There's really no reason for that to be using wordpress. :-\ 21:38:00 <clokep_work> Well I guess it'd be nice if someone updated it, but meh. 21:38:11 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I was wondering if there would be a way to make it completely read-only except for when we are posting, and during these times allow read/write access only from our IPs 21:38:25 <aleth> I know someone who has installed a really nice python based static blog platform ;) 21:38:35 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I'm increasingly annoyed by "technology" that needs constant updating. 21:38:59 <MikkCZ> You might want to try GitHub pages, if you want to avoid WordPress and/or own PHP scripts. 21:39:04 <flo-retina> wordpress, dotclear, web server stuff, even android phones (why does my z3c thinks it's appropriate to bother me with an update every other month?) 21:39:23 <aleth> go faster! ;) 21:39:35 <flo-retina> it almost seems like we are increasingly working for the technology, rather than the technology working for us 21:39:42 <flo-retina> aleth: yeah, these things should all go faster 21:39:44 <flo-retina> ;) 21:39:59 <aleth> an update every other month seems too slow ;) 21:40:25 <flo-retina> aleth: it's actually a new update whenever I finally grow tired enough of seeing the update prompt that I let it install it and restart. 21:40:36 <aleth> flo-retina: more seriously, imagine what IoT stuff will be like... 21:40:55 <flo-retina> aleth: I think it means greater needs for firewalls ;) 21:41:05 * flo-retina would love an Internet of People. 21:41:17 <aleth> sorry, you can't use the doorbell at the moment, we need to update our firewall :P 21:41:53 <aleth> and our lights won't dim because the startup that made the software went out of business 21:42:27 <flo-retina> and the car won't start because it's not warm enough outdoor ;) 21:43:28 <aleth> better than telling you to update your AMI to a 2015 model ;) 21:43:56 <flo-retina> ;) 21:44:50 <flo-retina> "Your message to support-instantbird awaits moderator approval" bah... 21:45:18 <flo-retina> looks like I haven't replied to that mailing list in a loong while 21:45:51 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Looks like your message has been accepted 21:46:06 <flo-retina> ah 21:50:55 <MikkCZ> Anyway - shouldn't be the blog updated to the latest WordPress version? You might want to hear, the newest WordPress allows minor version auto-updates. 21:51:21 <MikkCZ> But also the currently used plugins/themes might be incompatible, which can be tested before. 21:51:22 <flo-retina> yes it should. 21:51:25 <flo-retina> But probably not this night 21:52:07 <MikkCZ> If you would like me to help, you'll probably see me here on Wednesday. :) 21:53:55 <flo-retina> I took this week off and I'm trying to stay away from the Internet to relax. 21:54:13 <flo-retina> I actually only came online tonight because I saw an email on my phone from someone telling me the blog was down. 21:55:05 <MikkCZ> Np, in that case, feel free to ping me next week here or via e-mail, if you need any help. ;) 21:55:52 <flo-retina> thank you very much 21:56:09 <EionRobb> MikkCZ: ping. I need help mowing my lawn! 21:56:22 <flo-retina> EionRobb: are you paying for the flights? ;) 21:56:43 <EionRobb> he must not like helping people if he's not willing to pay for the flights himself ;) 21:57:08 <MikkCZ> :D 21:57:34 <MikkCZ> EionRobb: Where it is? 21:58:04 <EionRobb> -43.514543, 172.663361 22:01:35 <flo-retina> EionRobb: looks like it would take me 30 to 50h to fly there. 22:03:49 <EionRobb> awesome! :D 22:03:51 <EionRobb> see you on Wednesday! 22:04:19 <aleth> good luck trying to take a lawnmower through security ;) 22:04:33 <EionRobb> haha 22:08:12 <MikkCZ> Found flight with transfer in Dubai - can turn to very nice trip. 22:10:31 <-- MikkCZ has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:22:46 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Account manager bug 1223167 filed by steph1978@laposte.net. 22:22:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1223167 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, gtalk can not get contact presence 22:26:01 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:27:28 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Account wizard bug 1223173 filed by steph1978@laposte.net. 22:27:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1223173 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, xmpp is not proposed as a protocol in the wizard 22:29:01 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:30:11 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.92 [SeaMonkey 2.38/20150923193515]) 23:18:36 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection closed) 23:18:48 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird