#instantbird log on 07 28 2015

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01:30:09 <clokep> Does that mean that a pyclean didn't help? :P
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02:12:34 <instant-buildbot> build #388 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/388
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09:30:15 <flo-retina> so... our current bustage is bug 1188158, right?
09:30:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188158 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, nsChannelClassifier.cpp(22) : fatal error C1083: Cannot open include file: 'nsIPrivateBrowsingTracki
09:30:58 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Account manager bug 1188280 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
09:31:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1188280 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Provide a separate pref to disable autojoins by default
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09:34:09 <aleth> flo-retina: yes
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09:51:14 <flo-retina> "DBD::mysql::db do failed: Deadlock found when trying to get lock; try restarting transaction [for Statement "UPDATE bugs SET lastdiffed = ? WHERE bug_id = ?"] " hmmm, thanks bugzilla
09:52:05 <flo-retina> ah, that seems to be because we commented at the exact same time, without mid-airing
09:52:07 <flo-retina> somehow
09:52:55 <aleth> huh
09:53:26 <aleth> Yes, I thought I should make it clear that pref might not do what they think it does 
09:54:15 <aleth> depending on what they think it does ;)
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10:02:51 <flo-retina> aleth: yeah, flipping random prefs isn't a good idea.
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11:00:21 <clokep> flo-retina, aleth: I got a crazy email from bugzilla that had *both* your comments in it without any quoting.
11:00:33 <clokep> I was wondering what happened. :)
11:00:49 <flo-retina> it was just bugzilla being bugzilla ;)
11:00:55 <flo-retina> it's not the first time I see this happening
11:01:10 <flo-retina> but I don't remember seeing that scary SQL error before :)
11:01:41 <clokep> Meh so we're busted...and nothing we an do.
11:01:43 <clokep> That's depressing.
11:05:42 * clokep hg backouts 7449a9371810 and sees what happens.
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13:40:19 <Fallen> ooh skype. When will an instantbird nightly be available with it?
13:40:29 <aleth> A few days ago? ;)
13:40:41 <aleth> Well, we're busted on some OS...
13:40:44 <Fallen> hmm whats the pref for it? I couldn't find skype in about:config
13:40:47 <Fallen> mac?
13:40:58 <clokep_work> Fallen: If you don't have an up to date nightly the pref won't exist.
13:41:08 <Fallen> just checked for updates, nothing
13:41:10 <clokep_work> Fallen: chat.prpls.prpl-skype.disable
13:41:14 <clokep_work> Aren't you on mac?
13:41:16 <clokep_work> It should exist there.
13:41:24 <clokep_work> We've had one nightly with it.
13:41:54 <aleth> It's there.
13:42:01 <Fallen> aah I assumed the about dialog would check for updates
13:42:15 <aleth> We should remove MSN.
13:42:33 <clokep_work> I'd rather wait for libpurple to do it, I think.
13:42:39 <aleth> OK
13:42:41 <clokep_work> Maybe we should stop building it though.
13:42:54 <aleth> It should certainly happen before the release
13:43:01 <clokep_work> (AKA I agree where "remove" is "remove from configure" as opposed to "rm -rf")
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13:43:28 <clokep_work> Fallen: I forget if a restart is needed after changing that pref.
13:43:49 <aleth> clokep_work: Yes, that's what I meant.
13:44:24 <clokep_work> OK. :)
13:44:34 <clokep_work> I'd approve that change...
13:44:50 <clokep_work> Some stuff actually supports it still (surprisingly): http://ismsndeadyet.com/
13:46:36 <flo-retina> clokep_work: are we sure removing a "top" prpl doesn't break the account wizard?
13:46:47 <flo-retina> we may need to add a try/catch or a null check somewhere
13:47:37 <Fallen> seems to work without restart :-)
13:48:27 <clokep_work> flo-retina: We removed that from the top prpl list already.
13:48:46 <aleth> Last week ;)
13:51:34 <freaktechnik> bug 1186627
13:51:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1186627 tri, --, Instantbird 42, clokep, RESO FIXED, Update top protocols list for 1.6
13:53:17 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I meant in other locales
13:53:37 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Good point.
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16:04:28 <afiksof1> whats new in instantbird?
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17:14:28 <clokep_work> Stuff.
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18:07:57 <Fallen> Timestamp: 7/28/15, 8:02:27 PM
18:07:57 <Fallen> Error: [Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED) [nsIStringBundle.formatStringFromName]"  nsresult: "0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED)"  location: "JS frame :: resource:///modules/imXPCOMUtils.jsm :: l10nHelper/< :: line 211"  data: no]
18:07:57 <Fallen> Source File: resource:///modules/imXPCOMUtils.jsm
18:07:57 <Fallen> Line: 215
18:08:36 <Fallen> might be related, I got this message in the nickserv window: 8:06:14 PM - nickSet.you
18:11:06 <afiksof1> what?
18:11:58 <flo-retina> I think aleth backed out that patch
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18:35:15 <Fallen> ok I'll wait for the next nightly
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18:43:31 <clokep_work> Yes, it was backed out.
18:44:11 <aleth> We're multiply busted though
18:44:44 <aleth> ../../config/nsinstall: cannot access ../../dist/branding/default16.png: No such file or directory
18:44:59 <flo-retina> right, we already had that bustage before the private browsing one
19:15:19 <flo-retina> we need a solution for that wiki :(
19:23:18 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I've started making a list of the pages that we have.
19:23:26 <flo-retina> ok
19:26:00 <clokep_work> Something happen?
19:26:10 <clokep_work> I figured once I had the list I'd start moving stuff *somewhere*.
19:27:51 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Can you make it readonly?
19:28:01 <clokep_work> Directions I've seen on how to do that require access to the files.
19:28:03 <clokep_work> So I couldn't do it.
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19:28:11 <clokep_work> I'd also like to mass delete things, but that requires adding an extension.
19:28:14 <clokep_work> So...I can't do that.
19:28:30 <flo-retina> https://twitter.com/CAfromCA/status/626107001697730560 just reminded me
19:28:37 <flo-retina> (of how bad the situation was)
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19:51:09 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Right, so can we completely disable writing to that repo?
19:51:25 <flo-retina> you mean wiki?
19:51:34 <flo-retina> I don't know how one does that
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19:52:10 <flo-retina> something like https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:Lock_the_database ?
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19:53:19 <clokep_work> flo-retina: that sounds likely, yes.
19:56:33 <flo-retina> I added $wgReadOnly = "This wiki is being moved/merged into another wiki. This instance is now readonly.";
19:56:38 <flo-retina> I'm not sure if that had an effect or not
19:58:27 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I see it somewhere. ;)
19:58:58 <clokep_work> Seems to have worked -- I can't delete a page.
19:59:49 <flo-retina> I'm not sure that's an improvement :-D
20:00:35 <clokep_work> I'm not sure either.
20:00:42 <clokep_work> But I'm unwilling to go through and delete 3000 pages. ;)
20:07:39 <flo-retina> is there a reasonable way to review them to identify the relevant ones?
20:31:15 <clokep_work> I've been going through the titles.
20:34:54 <flo-retina> if there are 3000, that seems tedious
20:35:04 <flo-retina> and error prone
20:35:04 <clokep_work> I'm down to 2000 ;)
20:35:29 <flo-retina> I'm not even sure how one can get a full list of pages
20:37:17 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I already have that. :-\
20:37:23 * clokep_work feels like you're tring to redo work he's done.
20:37:28 <clokep_work> I can give you it if you'd like.
20:37:52 <flo-retina> I'm not trying!
20:38:03 <flo-retina> I'm just curious of how you are doing it
20:38:14 <flo-retina> (mostly to see if there are ways I could suggest improvements to save some of your time)
20:39:10 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I went to AllPages, I think.
20:39:18 <clokep_work> Set it to 1000, and then it was six pages loads + copy and pastes.
20:39:24 <clokep_work> And now i have it in a text file which I'm going through.
20:39:56 <flo-retina> hmm, I assume you can quickly get rid of anything with a foreign alphabet?
20:40:50 <clokep_work> Yep.
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21:37:28 <abdelrhman> aleth: in bug 1171691, I think there is misunderstanding of JID.
21:37:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1171691 nor, --, ---, a.ahmed1026, NEW, Improve the participant tooltips for XMPP
21:37:48 <abdelrhman> the _jid is like (room@domain/nick)
21:38:07 <abdelrhman> but the jid is like (username@domain/resource)
21:38:38 <abdelrhman> ^ the account jid of the participant
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21:43:15 <aleth> abdelrhman: aha, that needs some better variable naming and comments then ;)
21:44:16 <abdelrhman> yes, I think it would be better to name it "accountJid". is this good one?
21:44:59 <aleth> abdelrhman: OK, and maybe call the other one participantJid?
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21:45:16 <abdelrhman> OK
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21:48:15 <aleth> Or leave that one .jid if it usually appears as participant.jid
21:48:24 <EionRobb> the spec (XEP-0045) calls them "real jid" or "full jid" for their actual jid and "occupant jid" for the nicks
21:50:09 <aleth> Yes, but we don't use "occupant" anywhere else in Instantbird
21:50:35 <EionRobb> yeah, we call them "chat user" or "chat buddy" in pidgin, too :)
21:54:18 <abdelrhman> so, we will leave private member "_jid" as is?
21:55:56 <clokep_work> It'd be nice to have a comment that refers to the name in the spec btw.
21:59:01 <aleth> abdelrhman: OK, but add a comment, or remove it if it's not being used.
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22:01:45 <aleth> Seems unlikely that we don't use it though
22:05:15 <abdelrhman> actually, it can be derived using nick and muc name.
22:05:30 <aleth> But then we'd have to store the muc name
22:05:34 <aleth> Easier to store the jid
22:05:52 <abdelrhman> no, as this is a participant in the muc
22:06:06 <abdelrhman> muc._participants...
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22:06:17 <aleth> If it's always used that way, yes
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22:09:19 <aleth> There may be cases where you're just passed a prplIConvChatBuddy...
22:11:04 <abdelrhman> what will this cause?
22:12:07 <aleth> In that case you wouldn't necessarily have convenient access to the muc object
22:12:52 <abdelrhman> Ah, so we need to keep _jid. I'll just add a comment explaining it.
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22:47:17 <clokep_work> Sometimes I hate that we support Twitter...
22:48:27 <EionRobb> aww
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22:48:54 <EionRobb> hate is such a strong word :)
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23:47:31 <clokep_work> So I came up with 72 real wiki pages...
23:47:36 <clokep_work> Not sure how to check if there are others. :-\