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10:55:16 * clokep sighs.
10:55:19 <clokep> And we're busted again.
10:55:28 <clokep> Anyone look at it?
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10:56:01 <clokep> The error occurred while processing the following file: /Users/buildbot/buildslave/macosx/build/im/themes/moz.build
10:56:01 <clokep> The error was triggered on line 8 of this file: FINAL_TARGET_Files.extensions['{972ce4c6-7e08-4474-a285-3208198ce6fd}'] += [
10:56:01 <clokep> An error was encountered as part of executing the file itself. The error appears to be the fault of the script. The error as reported by Python is: ["NameError: name 'FINAL_TARGET_Files' is not defined\n"]
10:57:25 <aleth> A fix for that might already have landed
10:57:47 <aleth> bug 1138063
10:57:50 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1138063 nor, --, Thunderbird 42.0, bokeefe, RESO FIXED, Replace manual install rules (e.g. tests, FINAL_TARGET files) with moz.build equivalents
10:57:52 <aleth> not sure about the timing
10:58:26 <aleth> ah no, that's more likely what caused the bustage ;)
11:00:15 <aleth> flo-retina reviewed it though
11:00:29 * flo-retina hides
11:01:21 <clokep> I think it's just supposed to be all cpas?
11:01:22 <clokep> caps
11:02:00 <clokep> Can I pushed that?
11:02:32 <clokep> I suspect Bug 1186782 needs to be ported for purple too.
11:02:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1186782 blo, --, Thunderbird 42.0, iann_bugzilla, RESO FIXED, nsMailComps.o: In function `DirectoryProvider': mail/components/build/../shell/DirectoryProvider.h:3
11:02:36 * clokep plans to do it once at work.
11:02:57 <flo-retina> yes
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11:03:12 <flo-retina> ie. yes you can push that fix
11:07:00 * flo-retina is seeing a facebook contact with a " now :-D
11:08:17 * clokep waits for a patch. ;)
11:11:02 <clokep> So what do I need to do to get a Windows nightly? :P
11:11:05 * clokep wants split logs.
11:32:30 <flo-retina> is there a --disable something we need in mozconfigs, or does it really require a VS2015?
11:32:40 <clokep> VS201*3*
11:32:49 <clokep> I suspect we can disable accessibility. :P
11:32:56 <clokep> That's my *guess* though.
11:33:01 <instant-buildbot> build #2795 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2795
11:33:06 <clokep> You thought we only needed 2012 for some reason.
11:33:17 <clokep> Idk where you found that though?
11:33:45 <flo-retina> I don't think we want to disable windows accessibility :-S
11:33:50 <flo-retina> ../../config/nsinstall: cannot access ../../dist/branding/default16.png: No such file or directory
11:34:18 <clokep> I need to go bbl.
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11:38:21 <flo-retina> our (previous) Windows failure is https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1187155
11:38:23 <instantbot> Bug 1187155 nor, --, ---, m_kato, NEW, Remove #include <sphelper.h> for VS2013 express
11:38:34 <flo-retina> the fix landed yesterday on mozilla-inbound
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12:47:21 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Ah, cool! :)
12:51:52 <flo-retina> yeah, I guessed you would like that :)
12:55:23 <clokep_work> flo-retina: How do I file for updated milestones in Instantbird/Chat Core
12:59:46 <flo-retina> I assume https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=bugzilla.mozilla.org&component=Administration
13:00:00 <clokep_work> OK. I wasn't sure if there was a fancy form or something.
13:01:23 <flo-retina> I wonder if there's a way to get permissions to add versions ourselves for specific products
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13:20:37 <aleth> abdelrhman: Your nick change patch produces a huge amount of "Failed to get nickSet" error messages.
13:20:54 <aleth> Can you fix it or should I back out the patch?
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13:32:52 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I asked in the bug. :)
13:33:02 <clokep_work> PS I checked, none of those MOZ_WIDGET_TOOLKIT stuff needs to be ported to purple/
13:33:14 <clokep_work> aleth: Back it out.
13:33:23 <clokep_work> (Unless the fix is trivial. ;))
13:37:24 <aleth> OK.
13:37:37 <aleth> I don't know if the fix is trivial, but it does suggest the patch wasn't well tested ;)
13:41:31 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 1176958 from FIXED to ---.
13:41:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1176958 nor, --, 1.6, a.ahmed1026, REOP, participants list does not delete old nick when a participant changes it in XMPP MUC
13:52:39 <clokep_work> Thanks!
13:53:01 <abdelrhman> aleth: are there steps to reproduce that?
13:53:15 <aleth> abdelrhman: Yes, use IRC and join a busy channel like #developers.
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13:56:00 <aleth> abdelrhman: also there's a lot of Exception... "Component returned failure code: 0x8000ffff (NS_ERROR_UNEXPECTED) [nsIStringBundle.formatStringFromName]"
13:57:24 <abdelrhman> Ah, can the change of exported symbols cause that?
13:58:49 <aleth> I didn't look at the patch. clokep_work?
13:59:21 <abdelrhman> BTW, I need sometime as it takes time to build IB.
13:59:45 <aleth> No problem, it's backed out now.
13:59:57 <aleth> You do know about incremental builds?
14:00:48 <abdelrhman> Ah
14:01:01 <aleth> Btw it looks like you're just accessing a string incorrectly.
14:01:13 <aleth> (from the error message)
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14:01:38 <abdelrhman> but, it should not behave like this. as it works with normal IRC
14:03:34 <clokep_work> aleth: So do you know what commit was the 42 merge? :-D
14:03:58 <aleth> hg log | grep probably knows ;)
14:04:03 <clokep_work> :P
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14:04:20 <aleth> Didn't I stick it in the etherpad?
14:06:32 <aleth> Yes, I did.
14:09:51 <clokep_work> Meh...I'm confused
14:10:19 <clokep_work> Why is that a different node than I have?
14:12:04 <clokep_work> hg log is showing my bookmark which is annoying.
14:28:18 * flo-retina wonders why we haven't wontfixed bug 1136881 in the first place
14:28:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1136881 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Explore ways of implementing/integrating Firefox Hello in thunderbird
14:32:40 <freaktechnik> "Hey, let's chat over this link I just sent you via... chat"
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14:41:22 <aleth> It's a reasonable request from a user pov (obviously webrtc video chatting fits better into a chat app and it's nice the other end more or less only needs a browser for it to work and not a specific client)
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14:57:25 <clokep_work> BUGSPAM
14:57:52 <aleth> heh, thanks for taking care of that!
14:57:58 <aleth> Did you find a way to automate it?
14:58:49 <clokep_work> aleth: I did some hg log magic and then did a mass bug change in bugzilla.
14:58:53 <clokep_work> (Had to do one for each product)
15:02:17 <freaktechnik> new version numbering scheme :O
15:04:13 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: Yes, it got too confusing.
15:04:15 <aleth> freaktechnik: rather, one version numbering scheme less ;)
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15:18:58 <clokep_work> aleth, flo-retina: So I can WONTFIX bug 1136881 if we want.
15:19:00 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1136881 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Explore ways of implementing/integrating Firefox Hello in thunderbird
15:19:02 <clokep_work> I don't find it to be completely unreasonable though.
15:19:12 <clokep_work> More of in the category of "things I never plan to work on"
15:19:30 <clokep_work> It *is* super vague though.
15:19:37 <aleth> I don't think we should wontfix it while video chat hasn't landed to make those users happy at least.
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15:22:16 <aleth> abdelrhman: The new tooltip patch looks much better, thanks!
15:23:25 <clokep_work> aleth, abdelrhman: Sorry did you need me for a question earlier that I totally ignore?
15:24:01 <aleth> clokep_work: I just forwarded a question to you as you reviewed that patch
15:24:58 <clokep_work> Ah...
15:25:16 <clokep_work> Is my "expertise" (or lack-thereof) still needed? :)
15:25:17 <clokep_work> Which bug?
15:25:44 <aleth> I doubt it's mysterious, it just needs debugging.
15:26:35 <abdelrhman> bug 1176958
15:26:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1176958 nor, --, Instantbird 42, a.ahmed1026, REOP, participants list does not delete old nick when a participant changes it in XMPP MUC
15:32:04 <clokep_work> Oh damn. I should have asked for a Skype component to be added...
15:42:55 <abdelrhman> aleth: I hope the patch is free of nits :D
15:44:47 <clokep_work> flo-retina: aleth: https://thunderbird.etherpad.mozilla.org/status-meeting-minute-taking I added a summary there.
15:44:54 <clokep_work> Couldn't think of anything else Thunderbird knowing...
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16:23:05 <abdelrhman> aleth: in bug 954662 and bug 1172355, the reason for leaving a room/channel needs to be determined by each protocol!
16:23:08 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954662 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Join/part messages should be handled by imConversations.js.
16:23:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1172355 nor, --, ---, a.ahmed1026, NEW, Add system messages when someone joins or leaves a room
16:24:05 <abdelrhman> also I think they should be handled by jsProtoHelper.jsm
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16:38:30 <aleth> abdelrhman: Bug 954662 is about something more complicated - it would also have to work for libpurple protocols, and they don't use jsProtoHelper. jsProtoHelper abstracts only for JS prpls
16:38:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954662 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Join/part messages should be handled by imConversations.js.
16:39:33 <clokep_work> It would need patches to libpurple btw.
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16:44:56 <abdelrhman> are we still using it?, sorry if this means misunderstanding as the links clokep_work provided are not in current tree.
16:45:51 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: Yes.
16:45:59 <clokep_work> That's where ~50% of our protocols come from.
16:46:06 <clokep_work> Is there lxr links in there?
16:46:08 <aleth> I wouldn't tackle that bug before discussing a bit more what exactly is wanted though.
16:46:26 <abdelrhman> clokep_work: yes, http://lxr.instantbird.org/instantbird/source/purple/libpurple/conversation.c#1729
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16:47:23 <abdelrhman> clokep_work: is there an example of the 50%?
16:47:58 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: Google Talk, Facebook, Twitter, IRC and Yahoo are the only ones that are *not* provided by libpurple
16:50:23 <abdelrhman> Ah, thanks clokep_work
16:50:41 <aleth> XMPP in the future, when JS-XMPP is good enough ;)
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16:50:53 <aleth> well, Thunderbird already ships JS-XMPP.
16:51:17 <freaktechnik> gtalk and fb are tecvhnically js-xmpp too, right?
16:51:54 <aleth> yes
16:52:26 <clokep_work> Yep! :)
16:52:42 <aleth> Fb has officially deprecated their XMPP gateway though, so it's not clear how much longer that will work
16:53:14 <abdelrhman> also Gtalk
16:54:08 <clokep_work> What does "also Gtalk" mean?
16:54:19 <abdelrhman> Google Talk
16:55:00 <freaktechnik> there was some fluff around gtalk, hangouts and xmpp a while back, but nothing happened so far.
16:55:24 <freaktechnik> Also, as long as skype has integrated fb chat I wouldn't be too worried about its future...
16:55:27 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: I know what "Gtalk" is, what do you mean by "also Gtalk"?
16:55:32 <clokep_work> Do you mean "they've deprecated XMPP"?
16:55:35 <clokep_work> Because that's not true.
16:55:46 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: It doesn't anymore IIRC.
16:56:35 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: Google has never made any official announcements about their XMPP stuff. All they've done is stop development of the Google Talk *client*.
16:57:11 <abdelrhman> yes and it used XMPP.
16:58:01 <freaktechnik> clokep_work: right, messenger is the thing that still works.
16:58:10 <freaktechnik> (as in, wlm)
16:59:16 <abdelrhman> http://www.disruptivetelephony.com/2015/02/google-finally-kills-off-googletalk-and-xmpp-jabber-integration.html
16:59:56 <clokep_work> abdelrhman: Did you read that? "UPDATE: Please see the post "Not, it's not the end of XMPP for Google Talk""
17:00:56 <abdelrhman> yes.
17:01:24 <clokep_work> OK.
17:01:25 <aleth> The problem is they don't federate securely, so adding gtalk jids to normal XMPP accounts may not work.
17:01:51 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Not sure if you saw, but apparently Slack is rewriting their XMPP stuff so...
17:03:52 <Mook_as> Hah. I haven't touched their XMPP stuff, just their funny websocket stuff, so that's... probably fine?
17:05:24 <clokep_work> Mook_as: I gues my point was that maybe it will work well enough not to have to write your own. :)
17:05:31 <Mook_as> Hehe
17:05:43 <clokep_work> He said they're going to rewrite their IRC support too.
17:05:52 <Mook_as> Hopefully it will work better than their existing IRC stuff...
17:07:48 <clokep_work> Yep :-D
17:09:35 <Mook_as> Do you have things to read about this? Didn't find anything in the logs. I just see bug 1186463.
17:09:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1186463 nor, --, Instantbird 42, aleth, RESO FIXED, Thunderbird Chat and Slack XMPP gateway don't connect
17:11:58 <clokep_work> Mook_as: There was a long conversation between aleth and the slack dev here in #instantbird.
17:12:06 <clokep_work> + some more conversation over private messages.
17:12:14 <clokep_work> + aleth and I discussing while in the same room.
17:12:30 <clokep_work> (No, we didn't record ourselves ;))
17:12:38 <clokep_work> Was there a specific part that was interesting?
17:13:17 <Mook_as> Not that I know of, just wanted to read up on things to figure out if there _were_ things that were interesting.
17:15:06 <aleth> Mook_as: You can simply ask mikef directly if you have any questions ;)
17:15:40 <Mook_as> Don't have anything to ask yet, though ;)
17:17:20 <freaktechnik> it was mainly about the bug though, wasn't it? (so nothing particularly interesting about the XMPP implementation)
17:19:06 <aleth> It appears to be a work in progress (e.g. if you try to set the vcard, you get an error response)
17:19:38 <aleth> And there's likely a ton of Slack features they may or may not expose
17:19:45 <freaktechnik> there was one thing: it seems to be written in java, if that's something of interest.
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17:22:21 <clokep_work> I bet there are factories involved. :-D
17:22:48 <freaktechnik> http://java.metagno.me/
17:22:50 <freaktechnik> <_<
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18:06:21 <nhnt11> clokep_work, flo-retina, aleth: Congrats on the summit! I received quite a bit of email about bugs being resolved :)
18:06:36 <flo-retina> :)
18:06:51 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I've heard something about split lots!
18:06:53 <flo-retina> *logs
18:07:04 <nhnt11> flo-retina: I also unbitrotted indexed logs :)
18:07:10 <flo-retina> cool
18:07:15 <nhnt11> Haven't attached a patch yet though, I'd like to test it a bit more
18:07:20 <flo-retina> (tbh, I have no idea what happened, except for the discussions I was involved in)
18:11:12 <nhnt11> Are everyone's logs doing ok?
18:11:52 <aleth> Have to wait a few days to find out!
18:12:18 * nhnt11 hopes that the test coverage is comprehensive enough that we will be fine
18:17:18 <aleth> I think so.
18:18:03 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Yeah we got a lot done. :)
18:18:09 <clokep_work> Sorry for the bugmail.
18:31:47 * clokep_work wonders if flo-retina will have time to un-tar things. O:-)
18:32:35 <flo-retina> I need to have a look at that
18:32:40 <flo-retina> do we have a fix for the current bustage?
18:32:54 <clokep_work> I fixed the last one. ;)
18:32:58 <clokep_work> I haven't had time to look at it.
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19:24:09 <aleth> flo-retina: trying to do a local build, it failed in dom/
19:24:40 <flo-retina> what's the failure? Is it one that indicates a clobber was needed?
19:25:07 <aleth> nsGlobalWindow.cpp:14481:12: error: member access into incomplete type 'mozilla::dom::OwningExternalOrWindowProxy'
19:25:52 * flo-retina remembers having failures in nsGlobalWindow.cpp after pulling both c-c and m-c
19:26:13 <flo-retina> I think the auto-clobber system doesn't work from c-c of something
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20:04:23 <aleth> after a clobber, it fails in netwerk/base
20:17:48 <clokep_work> :(
20:17:51 <clokep_work> Guess I shouldn't pull.
20:18:05 <clokep_work> aleth: I assumed you tried just building again?
20:18:07 <clokep_work> Sometimes it'll work...
20:18:26 <aleth> inbound merged recently, I assume it's due to that.
20:18:36 <aleth> Guess I can't test the tooltip patch then...
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21:15:28 * nhnt11_lunch looks forward to Instantbird 42
21:15:50 <nhnt11_lunch> A fitting version number!
21:16:02 <aleth> It's the answer.
21:16:35 <aleth> Now we need the question ;)
21:16:44 <freaktechnik> what's 30+12?
21:17:20 <freaktechnik> or 26.25*1.6?
21:18:57 <aleth> http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/42 ;)
21:19:27 <flo-retina> I suspect the question will be "why have you jumped from 1.6 to 42?" :)
21:19:41 <freaktechnik> but 42 isn't the answer to that.
21:20:17 <aleth> "In order to never have to worry about whether it's 1.6 or 2.0 again" ;)
21:20:30 <flo-retina> isn't that part of "everything"? :)
21:21:07 <freaktechnik> but 42 is only the answer to the conjuction.
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21:30:41 <clokep> At least we didn't jump to 160 or something.
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21:32:28 <abdelrhman> :D
21:36:30 <abdelrhman> aleth: could you suggest system messages for codes 321 and 322 in (http://xmpp.org/registrar/mucstatus.html)?
21:37:30 <aleth> I don't understand what 321 is for
21:38:04 <aleth> For both I'd suggest using a message based on the string on that page for now.
21:38:25 <freaktechnik> "The user shalt be informed that..."
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21:39:11 <aleth> ("You have been removed from the room because...")
21:39:21 <abdelrhman> OK
21:45:28 * clokep is about to kick off a local windows build.
21:46:07 <aleth> clokep: Looking at that bustage again, I wonder if it's some c-c specific build system bustage, as it happens quite early on
21:46:20 <clokep> aleth: Which one? :-S
21:46:30 <clokep> Mac/Lin/Win?
21:46:58 <aleth> OSX
21:48:20 <clokep> Ah.
21:48:30 <clokep> Umm...maybe. I haven't looked into that one.
21:49:00 <aleth> "netwerk/base/nsChannelClassifier.cpp:22:10: fatal error: 'nsIPrivateBrowsingTrackingProtectionWhitelist.h' file not found
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22:07:06 <aleth> Hmm, looks like TB isn't busted
22:08:11 <abdelrhman> aleth: check the example 5 of a vCard (http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0054.html)
22:08:54 <abdelrhman> I use the recursive way to get elements like family, given, etc.
22:09:14 <freaktechnik> (direct link: http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0054.html#example-5)
22:09:27 <abdelrhman> thanks freaktechnik :)
22:09:34 <aleth> I understand that part, but shouldn't those elements always live inside a specific child node?
22:09:57 <aleth> E.g. the userid is only the email address if it's a child of an email node ;)
22:10:37 <aleth> Your recursive approach ignores what the parent is.
22:10:57 <abdelrhman> as there is only one userid
22:11:15 <abdelrhman> so we do not care the parent.
22:11:44 <aleth> abdelrhman: Are you saying the spec says that the only node localnames allowed in a vcard are those in that example?
22:13:31 <aleth> ah, section 9 seems to have the complete structure
22:13:32 <abdelrhman> no
22:13:33 <abdelrhman> http://xmpp.org/extensions/xep-0054.html#dtd
22:14:51 <aleth> abdelrhman: I guess I'm just a bit worried that later on, when you parse e.g. phone numbers too, that approach won't work
22:15:25 <aleth> But OK, if you prefer to use the recursive method for now, that's fine.
22:15:33 <abdelrhman> also the ordinary way won't work
22:16:21 <abdelrhman> we need to use a counter to be used in properties like .tel1, tel2
22:17:17 <aleth> xml can be slightly crazy :P
22:17:28 <aleth> OK then.
22:17:38 <abdelrhman> yes :D
22:18:31 <abdelrhman> or get the first contact only!, the easiest solution :)
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22:25:05 <aleth> clokep: we're likely busted by bug 1145503
22:25:07 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1145503 nor, P1, mozilla42, past, RESO FIXED, TP exceptions added while in Private Browsing mode persist beyond the Private Browsing session
22:25:59 <aleth> not sure why though
22:26:10 <aleth> maybe my local tree is messed up somehow
22:26:31 <clokep> Huh
22:28:25 <clokep> Yeah looks like it should be OK...
22:29:18 * clokep doesn't know and is confused.
22:30:34 * aleth grasps at straws and pycleans
22:30:53 <clokep> Haha.
22:31:12 <clokep> There is a new file in package manifest?
22:31:43 <aleth> Yeah, but local builds aren't packaged anyway
22:31:48 <clokep> Right.
22:31:54 * clokep kicks off a build again.
22:32:10 <aleth> It's not like anyone has ported tracking protection anyway
22:34:42 <aleth> Huh, looks like that helped
22:52:59 <clokep> aleth: I see it on windows too
22:53:40 <aleth> idk why the build error switches from that one to one in globalwindow seemingly at random
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