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13:54:27 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:54:30 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:54:30 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:58:41 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: :tiuQ) 13:58:56 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 13:58:56 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 14:03:38 <clokep_work> aleth: What sort of errors were you seeing? 14:03:58 <aleth> Typeerrors in command handling code 14:04:32 <clokep_work> Oh, hmm... 14:04:39 <clokep_work> I don't remember us landing anything about that. 14:05:14 * clokep_work test 14:06:19 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Other bug 1180698 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 14:06:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1180698 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Awesometab has non-functional entries for contacts with status=unknown 14:06:27 <aleth> No idea what produced them, it's probably some indirect thing. 14:11:39 <clokep_work> :-\ 14:42:21 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 14:45:42 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: Looks like things are working fine on normal IRC networks. :) 14:50:38 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird 14:51:45 * flo-retina discovers that pressing Command+t and then <enter> does absolutely nothing :) 14:51:57 <flo-retina> well, it opens the awesometab, and then switches back to #instantbird ;) 14:52:12 <clokep_work> For me too. :-D 14:52:16 <flo-retina> hmm, of course this only works in the most used channel :) 15:01:07 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:17:57 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:27:34 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Glad to hear we're your most used channel. 15:30:27 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:35:11 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 15:35:11 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 15:50:47 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:58:18 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:01:37 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: :tiuQ) 16:01:46 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:01:47 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 16:04:11 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:04:12 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 16:04:45 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 16:05:27 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:11:29 <-- unghost has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:19:04 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:28:42 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:30:38 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:39:32 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 16:39:38 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Quit: Leaving) 16:43:06 --> gp1 has joined #instantbird 16:43:32 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird 16:44:34 <-- gp has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:55:51 --> myk has joined #instantbird 16:58:33 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:58:35 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:06:37 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 17:06:37 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 17:09:04 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 17:09:04 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt12 17:09:34 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 17:11:06 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:11:07 * nhnt12 is now known as nhnt11 17:16:36 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:33:39 --> unghost has joined #instantbird 17:37:40 <-- gerard-majax_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:54:58 <clokep_work> Apparently we don't properly highlight around people who have weird characters, like _AxS_ in #maildev. 18:06:12 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 18:06:12 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 18:17:59 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 18:17:59 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 18:17:59 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Connection closed) 18:18:00 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 18:18:00 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 18:28:09 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:45:52 <arlolra> is there any reason for "Search engines" in Prefs > Advanced > General ? 18:49:12 <aleth> arlolra: Select some text and you can search from the context menu. 18:49:46 <arlolra> intresting 18:49:53 <arlolra> thanks 18:50:14 <aleth> iirc it needs updating, there's an open bug on that. 18:50:19 --> gerard-majax_ has joined #instantbird 18:55:40 <clokep_work> (They should still work...) 18:58:36 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 19:00:42 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 19:00:42 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 19:07:50 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 19:11:52 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 19:15:22 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 19:19:31 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 19:22:52 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 19:31:34 --> arlolra1 has joined #instantbird 19:31:35 <-- arlolra has quit (Connection closed) 19:31:35 * arlolra1 is now known as arlolra 19:36:44 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 19:36:53 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 19:37:17 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:37:21 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 19:37:21 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 19:38:46 <-- unghost has quit (Quit: Ð£Ñ Ð¾Ð¶Ñ Ñ Ð¾Ñ Ð²Ð°Ñ (xchat 2.4.5 или ÑÑаÑÑе)) 19:57:21 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:00:20 --> myk has joined #instantbird 20:04:16 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 20:05:35 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 20:08:22 --> arlolra1 has joined #instantbird 20:08:36 <-- arlolra has quit (Connection closed) 20:08:36 * arlolra1 is now known as arlolra 20:23:11 * gerard-majax_ is now known as gerard-majax 20:49:09 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:51:56 --> myk has joined #instantbird 20:52:38 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:52:48 --> myk has joined #instantbird 20:55:28 <-- arlolra has quit (Connection closed) 20:55:31 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 21:06:45 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:10:06 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:20:28 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [SeaMonkey 2.33.1/20150321194827]) 21:22:11 * nhnt11 is now known as nhnt11^test 21:23:16 * nhnt11^test is now known as nhnt11 21:23:51 * nhnt11 is now known as nhnt11^test 21:24:10 * nhnt11^test is now known as nhtjn11 21:24:12 * nhtjn11 is now known as nhnt11 21:25:37 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 21:26:33 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 21:27:32 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Connection closed) 21:30:32 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: :tiuQ) 21:30:35 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 21:30:36 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 21:40:57 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 21:41:50 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 21:45:13 --> aleth1 has joined #instantbird 21:45:14 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth1 21:48:33 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:48:33 * aleth1 is now known as aleth 22:22:01 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:22:29 <-- freaktechnik has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:23:49 --> freaktechnik has joined #instantbird 22:25:17 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:25:52 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 23:00:07 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:00:13 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 23:00:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 23:00:37 <nhnt11> Ughhh 23:00:47 <nhnt11> I was just talking to Jill about Instantbid 23:00:48 <nhnt11> bird* 23:01:00 <nhnt11> Automatic LIST results in the awesometab isn't working on her fresh profile on 1.5! 23:03:27 <flo-retina> fix it? 23:03:38 <aleth> 1.5 is too long ago :-/ 23:03:52 <flo-retina> yeah... 23:04:11 <aleth> nhnt11: did she try in the first minute after connecting? 23:04:20 <nhnt11> aleth: well yeah 23:04:28 <nhnt11> hmm, we wait a minute, don't we 23:04:31 <aleth> moznet doesn't allow that (bug fixed for 1.6) 23:05:22 <nhnt11> ahh yeah 23:06:05 <flo-retina> we desperately need to get a release out the door :( 23:06:15 <aleth> Bug 1082501 23:06:17 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1082501 nor, --, 1.6, aleth, RESO FIXED, LIST fails on some servers during the first minute after connection 23:06:47 <nhnt11> flo-retina: We should have a system for uplifting stuff like this honestly 23:07:10 <flo-retina> nhnt11: what does "uplifting" mean when there's no release being built? 23:07:33 <nhnt11> yeah I mean for after we have a release 23:07:46 <flo-retina> you are just saying we should release again 23:07:49 <nhnt11> Right now we have infrastructure to just merge nightly into release and build, right? 23:08:42 <nhnt11> we will* have 23:08:43 <aleth> There has been no release since the move to c-c 23:08:53 * nhnt11 knows 23:09:26 <flo-retina> I don't understand "we have infrastructure to just merge nightly into release and build" 23:09:47 <flo-retina> right now there's no infrastructure in place to do anything that's not a nightly 23:15:06 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:15:06 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 23:17:23 <nhnt11> flo-retina: Sorry. Let me rephrase the whole thing. Do we have plans to be able to make point releases 23:17:24 <nhnt11> ? 23:18:12 <flo-retina> what's the goal? 23:18:15 <flo-retina> who would maintain that? 23:18:23 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 23:18:51 <flo-retina> shipping weekly aurora/beta builds seems more useful to me currently 23:19:20 <nhnt11> Well, if something happened that broke LIST in the awesometab (freenode changes some server settings) we should be able to get a fix out asap, right? 23:19:45 <flo-retina> no 23:20:25 <nhnt11> why not? 23:20:26 <flo-retina> if something happened that very seriously compromised our users' security, our fully prevented connecting to a major network, we should be able to chemspill 23:20:48 <flo-retina> LIST being broken for a month on a specific server doesn't seem to deserve that much effort 23:21:04 <flo-retina> nhnt11: why not? Because who would be doing the release work? 23:21:25 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I think you care about this now because it seems the next release is always too far away. 23:21:33 <flo-retina> nhnt11: if we start shipping frequently, it won't matter as much. 23:21:40 <nhnt11> hmm, maybe 23:21:43 <flo-retina> especially if there's a fresh beta every week 23:21:56 <nhnt11> a month is a long time though. Not a lot of people use betas. 23:23:23 <flo-retina> are you volunteering to take care of it? 23:24:03 <nhnt11> but yes, I used the LIST example because it was handy, but I just meant that if we deemed a fix important enough, would we be able to make a point release? (seems like the answer is yes) 23:24:19 <nhnt11> flo-retina: If you walk me through the procedure the first time, yes. 23:24:19 <flo-retina> currently no. 23:24:24 <flo-retina> In the past we did it twice. 23:24:34 <flo-retina> nhnt11: there's no procedure 23:24:54 <flo-retina> that's why we need to figure it out 23:24:57 <nhnt11> I am speaking in the context of a future time when we have release infrastructure 23:25:04 <nhnt11> ugh 23:25:11 <nhnt11> we're talking past each other 23:26:50 <nhnt11> never mind 23:30:24 <flo-retina> the one case I remember where we did a super quick .1 release was when MSN crashed on connect, ie. at startup for people with auto-login 23:30:38 <flo-retina> it's because of that unfortunate event that we implemented startup crash detection 23:31:18 <nhnt11> right so I am basically wondering about how we can do something like that now that we're in c-c 23:31:40 <flo-retina> I also vaguely remember a 0.1.3.1, which was probably because it had been too long since 0.1.3 and we were not ready for 0.2 yet 23:32:09 <flo-retina> nhnt11: oh, are you asking if we could get permission to commit to the right repository? 23:32:34 <flo-retina> I would be extremely surprised if we couldn't get permission to push to the im/ folder of comm-whatever 23:32:57 <nhnt11> flo-retina: yeah basically, if we ever need to do that, will we be able to uplift im/ patches into comm-release and possibly trigger a build 23:33:14 <nhnt11> I assume "yes" 23:33:22 <flo-retina> trigger a build is a harder question 23:33:30 <flo-retina> shipping it is even harder 23:33:50 <flo-retina> shipping also means we need to have the update server taking it into account 23:34:50 <nhnt11> even after we get the release stuff sorted and ship 1.6? 23:35:33 <flo-retina> yes 23:35:33 <clokep> nhnt11: The current update server is meh. 23:35:43 <flo-retina> nhnt11: that part will never be fully automated 23:35:50 <clokep> We should ask ActiveState again if they'd be willing to open source there's... 23:35:54 * clokep pokes Mook_as. 23:35:58 <nhnt11> hmm 23:36:07 <clokep> aleth: Actually...IB 1.5 IRC on moznet is probably pretty broken, right? 23:36:10 <clokep> You fixed a few things... 23:36:11 <flo-retina> there will always need to be someone deciding if the set of release candidates we have built is good enough to ship or if we should build again 23:36:52 <nhnt11> but the hard part would be making that decision? 23:37:13 <flo-retina> nhnt11: the hardest part around release has always been to coordinate everybody 23:37:37 <nhnt11> hmm 23:37:44 <nhnt11> come to think about it, I've never been around for a release 23:37:59 <flo-retina> ensuring locales are in the correct state, ensuring that at least one person verified each of the builds from the different OSes, that we have release notes, that the website is up to date, that there's a blog post ready 23:38:04 <nhnt11> I think I had disappeared to get some academic stuff done when 1.5 was released 23:38:43 <clokep> Ensuring that updates work. 23:39:11 <clokep> nhnt11: Have you seen https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:release_process? 23:39:15 <flo-retina> I'm hoping that by doing releases on a regular schedule, we should get rid of the coordination overhead, because everybody responsible for something could get it done whenever during the expected and predictable timeframe. 23:39:21 <clokep> It's outdated, but should give some idea of the amount of work. 23:39:37 * nhnt11 feels like a total n00b again :D 23:51:10 <clokep> nhnt11: Part of being human. :-D 23:52:13 * clokep is trying to reproduce the Windows failure. 23:52:14 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 23:57:12 <Mook_as> clokep: I can poke people... or you can ask in #komodo :p 23:57:36 <clokep> Mook_as: I'll ask again in #komodo when we need it. :-D 23:57:40 <clokep> But just figured I'd let you know. 23:58:59 * clokep suspects he's going to ask nhnt11 to review things soon. ;)