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03:45:39 <instant-buildbot> build #1443 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1443
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04:17:07 <instant-buildbot> build #2738 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2738
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05:17:05 <nhnt11> \o/
05:17:14 * nhnt11 finally got xpcshell tests working again
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06:13:24 <nhnt11> yay, bugs
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06:26:57 <instant-buildbot> build #357 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/357
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06:43:09 <nhnt11> \o/
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09:18:01 <BlueMaxima> anyone else unable to add a Twitter account to instantbird?
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11:15:27 <BlueMaxima> hi flo-retina. if you have time could you try authorizing a twitter API account on Instantbird? I'm trying to get mine to work but it doesn't seem to want to cooperate, when I get past login it just tells me the page doesn't exist
11:16:35 <flo-retina> Hi. I don't have time for this right now. Didn't you file a bug for this recently?
11:17:11 <BlueMaxima> Don't think that was me!
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11:38:37 <aleth> BlueMaxima: Are you using a nightly?
11:48:58 <clokep> MemoServs are kind of ignoring if you leave them hanging around for a while.
11:49:36 <flo-retina> are people still using memoservs?
11:50:49 <clokep> Why would they have stopped? ;)
11:50:58 <clokep> Most MemoServs I use are to send myself things.
11:52:37 <BlueMaxima> aleth, nope, just 1.5
11:52:53 <clokep> BlueMaxima: We fixed something about that recently.
11:53:21 <BlueMaxima> Ah. Will try the latest nightly then
11:54:14 * clokep thinks it might have just been flipping a pref.
11:55:37 <flo-retina> clokep: because aleth's last memos never arrived? ;)
11:56:25 <BlueMaxima> clokep, latest nightly didn't work.
11:58:41 <clokep> Ah, yeah.
11:59:06 <clokep> BlueMaxima: Not sure, sorry. :-\
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12:01:15 <BlueMaxima> damn.
12:03:26 <clokep> BlueMaxima: If you're on Windows, make sure you update after installing the latest nightly btw.
12:03:33 <clokep> Although even after doing that the Windows nightly will be way behind. :(
12:09:09 <BlueMaxima> Oh hey, that worked. Thanks clokep
12:10:53 <flo-retina> :)
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12:22:19 <clokep> flo-retina: Do we know why the Windows builder is offline?
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12:54:39 <flo-retina> clokep: I don't.
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14:30:15 <freaktechnik> does instantbird contain the Add-on SDK? Or does it only support normal bootstrapped extensions?
14:33:02 <flo-retina> freaktechnik: I don't know if add-on SDK add-ons would work in Instantbird, but bootstrapped extensions seem a much better choice anyway.
14:33:30 <freaktechnik> well, the question is, if the SDK stuff is included in instantbird - since it is in seamonkey and thunderbird.
14:33:44 <flo-retina> if it's part of toolkit, then we most likely have it too
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14:37:23 <freaktechnik> I guess the easiest way is to try if a hello-world extension works...
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14:48:30 <freaktechnik> yeah, the SDK seems to be in instantbird \o/
14:48:39 <freaktechnik> (at least the nightly)
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14:49:46 <freaktechnik> flo-retina: it seems the SDK is in instantbird, at least in the nightly version.
14:50:00 <flo-retina> ok
14:50:05 <flo-retina> thanks for checking :)
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20:01:24 <freaktechnik> how would I best create a network wrapping around the irc implementation? Get an internal instance of an irc account via @mozilla.org/chat/irc?
20:02:42 <freaktechnik> or should I reimplement everything that is relevant that the irc provider does? Because that'd be huge.
20:03:44 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: Can you give more context?
20:04:40 <freaktechnik> imagine an irc network that uses irc as the base of their chat system, but actually uses a lot of custom features, like ircv3 capabilities, or info that's not available via irc but via a rest API. and since it's just for one network implementing a network specific provider makes the most sense to me.
20:06:08 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: Sure...I'm wondering if it's a public network, like Slack. :P
20:06:13 <freaktechnik> (in the best case it'd even allow authentication via oAuth, but from the code I've seen so far that's not possible...)
20:06:19 <freaktechnik> it's irc.twitch.tv
20:06:29 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: So if it's IRCv3 things please submit patches to core.
20:06:30 <freaktechnik> (which actually redirects to tmi.twitch.tv)
20:06:38 <freaktechnik> it's more.
20:06:45 <clokep_work> Let me finish typing. :P
20:06:47 <freaktechnik> and it's custom capabilities, so that wouldn't help
20:07:08 <clokep_work> If it is feature specific to the network you can add a separate handler that only runs if the network URL matches that URL.
20:07:13 <clokep_work> And install ita s an extension.
20:07:21 <clokep_work> Or you can subclass and essentially do that anyway. ;)
20:07:38 <clokep_work> (Which would give you a pretty icon, let you do things like interrupt the way authentication is done, etc.)
20:07:44 <freaktechnik> well, in the best case I'd like to replace the account creatin with an oAuth dialog, but I don't think that's possible... yet
20:07:55 <clokep_work> It should be easily possible.
20:08:11 <Mook_as> oauth2 should be possible, yeah.
20:08:29 <clokep_work> Essentially copy the Twitter code and throw it in the middle of a TCP connection
20:08:31 <clokep_work> Sounds like a good time.
20:08:38 <Mook_as> (I cheat and override the account wizard, though)
20:09:26 <freaktechnik> how would I subclass the irc provider? Since only the provider itself is exported, but not the account.
20:09:31 * flo-retina wonders what Mook_as is cheating for
20:10:45 <Mook_as> flo-retina: https://github.com/mook/moslack/blob/master/content/imAccountWizardOverlay.xul#L22
20:10:58 * Mook_as needs to get back to that at some point
20:11:33 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: I've given people example code for this...pretty much subscript import it.
20:11:38 <clokep_work> And then subclass the objects in JS.
20:11:47 <clokep_work> You'll need to copy the constructors manually...because JavaScript.
20:12:11 <freaktechnik> yeah, that part I know, but I don't see how I'd import irc.js, never done such a thing
20:12:21 <clokep_work> I'm trying to find an example.
20:12:42 <freaktechnik> (where I imported a whole script into my scope without some kind of modularization like jsms or requireJS or amd etc.)
20:12:58 <clokep_work> Yes, II'm trying to find an example.
20:14:01 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/irc/test/test_ircMessage.js#6
20:14:10 <clokep_work> So something like that will give you all of the irc.js code in a scope called "irc"
20:14:15 <freaktechnik> nice
20:14:16 <freaktechnik> thanks
20:14:18 <clokep_work> You might want to just import them directly into this though.
20:15:37 <freaktechnik> or just extract certain objects with the destructuring
20:16:21 <clokep_work> Yep.
20:16:29 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: If you open source it, I'd be interested in seeing it. :)
20:16:39 <freaktechnik> I will once it actually works
20:16:39 <clokep_work> And if there are things that can go into core, please please provide patches! :-D
20:16:45 <freaktechnik> I will
20:16:51 <clokep_work> Or if you need things changed for subclassing, feel free to ask.
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20:17:36 <freaktechnik> but before I provide patches I'd have to achieve building instantbird, which I gave up last time when I had to get hg...
20:19:25 <clokep_work> freaktechnik: Well...if they work in your code and you're fairly confident of the code I might be able to help. :)
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20:21:46 * flo-retina wonders why getting hg would be a problem
20:44:01 <flo-retina> clokep_work: we should only rtrim() right?
20:45:04 <clokep_work> flo-retina: That sounds likely...it's also possible we should only trim weird OTR things off the back.
20:45:22 <clokep_work> Otherwise you wouldn't be able to send multi-line messages that end in whitespace..but I'm unsure if there's a usecase for *ever* seeing that.
20:45:27 <clokep_work> Anyone have an opinion?
20:46:56 <aleth> The only reason you're seeing the whitespace at all is because you're using Bubbles
20:47:19 <aleth> So I can't think of a usecase for not trimming them either
20:48:17 <aleth> I agree with flo, only trim the end of the last line (ie the end of the string)
20:48:39 <clokep_work> (We could likely also collapse it in CSS?)
20:49:05 <aleth> I don't think we want to mess with that setting again ;)
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20:50:22 <clokep_work> :-D
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20:53:22 <flo-retina> aleth: why would this be Bubble-only?
20:53:48 <aleth> Trailing whitespace is only visible if something is resizing in response to it
20:54:44 <aleth> Oh wait. Standard bubbles don't resize horizontally
20:55:00 <aleth> I was thinking of my modified bubbles...
20:56:09 <clokep_work> PSH.
20:56:16 <clokep_work> 3rd party things, wwe don't care about those. ;)
20:56:56 <aleth> I just saw your screenshot, where there's so much whitespace it starts new lines.
20:57:05 <aleth> That's obviously theme independent
20:57:11 <flo-retina> aleth: isn't the whitespace just a linebreak?
20:58:18 <aleth> flo-retina: it's not just linebreaks, and maybe never linebreaks
20:58:40 <aleth> ah, tabs and spaces https://github.com/arlolra/ctypes-otr/blob/master/chrome/content/libotr.js#L353
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22:05:05 <nhnt11> aleth: thanks for the review
22:07:21 <nhnt11> aleth: You're right about glodaConv already having a path. It's relative though. Would you prefer I add a different path property or check that the job's path endsWith the glodaConv path?
22:07:38 <nhnt11> erm, can't do ends with. The relative path always uses "/" as a separator.
22:07:50 <aleth> Aren't we using relative paths everywhere anyway?
22:07:55 <nhnt11> no
22:08:21 <nhnt11> aLogPath is a full path
22:08:36 <nhnt11> indexIMConversation converts that to a relative path while indexing
22:08:48 <aleth> So in that if clause, is it hard to relativize it and then compare?
22:08:51 <nhnt11> the imILogger instance returns full paths.
22:09:33 <nhnt11> It's not, I guess, but it would be duplication. want me to relativize it outside of indexIMConversation and pass it pre-relativized?
22:09:44 <aleth> The reason what you are doing is a bad idea is that the glodaConv object already has a path getter, which you are overriding... with an absolute path.
22:09:49 <aleth> That will mess up the DB again
22:09:57 <nhnt11> yeah
22:10:20 <nhnt11> that was a bad idea
22:10:36 <aleth> Not sure about the best way to do it right ;)
22:10:44 <nhnt11> interestingly it worked ;)
22:10:49 <nhnt11> (for some reason)
22:11:11 <aleth> Maybe a helper function to relativize paths or something, if there's no more elegant solution
22:11:30 <nhnt11> aleth: I think the easiest solution that works is just to set a glodaConv._fullPath property
22:11:50 <nhnt11> properties that start with a "_" are "safe"
22:11:55 <nhnt11> (grokNounItem won't touch them)\
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22:14:33 <clokep_work> Bah....gloda.
22:18:36 <nhnt11> aleth: would you be ok with that _fullPath fix?
22:18:50 <aleth> nhnt11: maybe
22:19:08 <aleth> It seems wasteful somehow, but maybe we don't care.
22:19:39 <nhnt11> aleth: I consider OS.Path.split(aJob.path).components.slice(-4).join("/"); wasteful also
22:19:52 <nhnt11> or adding a helper function
22:19:54 * nhnt11 shrugs
22:21:25 <aleth> It's confusing either way...
22:21:35 <aleth> I guess as long as you add comments.
22:21:43 <nhnt11> ok
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22:23:12 <clokep_work> (-4)?
22:23:28 <nhnt11> aleth: http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8838072
22:23:38 <nhnt11> clokep_work: last 4 components
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22:24:00 <aleth> hmm wait
22:24:35 <clokep_work> Yeah IDK what that means.
22:24:36 <aleth> Better do the relative path thing. There's another place where are GlodaIMConversation can be created - in IMConversationNoun
22:25:13 <aleth> It's safer to not have to go through and make sure _fullPath is always added when it should be
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22:27:01 <aleth> bah, gloda
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22:29:17 <nhnt11> clokep_work: array.slice(-4) gives you the last 4 elements of the array
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22:29:30 <nhnt11> negative indices will make it slice from the end of the array
22:29:32 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Yeah...I know that, but WTF are the last 4 elements of the array. :P
22:29:35 <nhnt11> oh
22:29:36 <clokep_work> I know how slice works.
22:29:38 <nhnt11> the path from the logs dir
22:29:44 <clokep_work> Ahhhh.
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22:34:47 <akronix_laptop> hi!
22:35:37 <akronix_laptop> I want to talk about the midterm, is it good to talk about it now?
22:37:40 <akronix_laptop> I had some technical issues this weekend and I finally did my speech for my final project today
22:38:32 <akronix_laptop> I know I haven't done a lot during this time and I haven't spent all the time I agreed to
22:40:23 <akronix_laptop> On the other hand, I'll be able to have real full-time for the rest of the summer  
22:43:11 <akronix_laptop> I still think I can do the whole project within the time left.
22:44:12 <akronix_laptop> but I would like to hear your opinion
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22:46:49 <akronix_laptop> flo-retina: are you here? maybe we can talk later??
22:47:32 <akronix_laptop> I'm going to the bed in 15 min. if not, we can talk in another time. Tomorrow morning or afternoon
22:47:41 <flo-retina> so... the mid-terms evaluation isn't about expectations for the second half of the summer, but about what got done during the first half.
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22:59:48 <akronix_laptop> flo-retina: ok, and the first half is already finished or it ends this Friday?
23:00:31 <flo-retina> in theory I think it ended last Friday, but I'm open to being flexible on that.
23:01:45 <akronix_laptop> I can work this week
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