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Possible reasons are: 1. Out of physical memory. 2. Corrupted RAM. 11:12:33 <flo-retina> either way, I should update the ram to 4GB instead of 2, that would probably fix it (and speed up significantly our linux64 builds) 11:12:44 <flo-retina> the surprising thing about it is that it's random... 11:12:54 <flo-retina> I would expect out of memory to be failing relatively consistently 11:13:05 <clokep> :-\ 11:13:10 <clokep> Well that makes me feel better at least. 11:13:23 <flo-retina> yeah, it's not on your plate to fix ;) 11:13:34 <-- afiksof has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:13:45 <flo-retina> doesn't make _me_ feel really better, but oh well ;) 11:15:44 <flo-retina> I'm not exactly looking forward to opening more minis and doing more memtests, but I guess it's needed 11:16:40 <flo-retina> it's also a bit silly that the mac mini I updated to 4GB isn't the one we actually use 11:19:07 <clokep> Why'd we do that? :) 11:19:47 <flo-retina> I didn't want to break the minis we actually use with my experiment (I wasn't sure I would be successful) 11:20:33 <flo-retina> I would probably prefer just swapping the hard disks, but I'm not even sure that's easier 11:21:16 <flo-retina> I/we should probably also invest in ssds for our old minis 11:21:26 <flo-retina> that would likely speed them up significantly 11:50:26 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:10:47 <-- Bollebib has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:25:03 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 12:27:14 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 12:35:43 <-- hadi has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:04:15 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:04:15 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:08:13 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Connection closed) 13:08:33 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 13:11:51 <-- micahg has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 13:12:17 <-- clokep_work has quit (Connection closed) 13:19:14 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:19:14 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 14:17:37 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird 14:26:00 --> abdelrhman has joined #instantbird 14:27:56 --> myk has joined #instantbird 14:33:37 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 14:35:26 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Connection closed) 14:35:30 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 14:40:37 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:40:37 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 14:43:08 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Connection closed) 14:43:15 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 15:06:41 <abdelrhman> aleth: for the problem of normalizedName for log store, can we use the full jid as normalized in case of private e.g(room@domain/nick)? 15:07:21 <flo-retina> I would be tempted to say yes, but the / character may be quite annoying for a folder name 15:07:34 <aleth> It's possible the / character is not allowed on all OS 15:08:19 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:09:16 <abdelrhman> in this case normalizedName is only used for that?, we can replace "/" with any allowed special character? 15:09:45 <clokep_work> Umm...protocols shouldn't worry about normalziing things for log storage, I thought? 15:09:49 <clokep_work> Isn't that handled in the logging code? 15:10:03 <aleth> clokep_work: just checking that! 15:10:24 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 15:10:53 <aleth> https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/components/src/logger.js#95 15:11:11 <abdelrhman> I'm just discussing issue that aleth brought up in bug 1000398, comment 4 15:11:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1000398 nor, --, ---, a.ahmed1026, ASSI, Support sending private message to a MUC participant 15:12:21 <abdelrhman> I thinks this encoder solves the problem? 15:12:50 <aleth> abdelrhman: yes, it does. 15:13:46 <aleth> So, the other thing to check if you use that as the normalizedName is that there are no normalize() calls that can happen that will strip the nick by accident 15:14:46 <aleth> Unfortunately I suspect there may be a problem there, as the existing code might assume that normalize(normalizedNick) == normalizedNick in some places, as I said in the bug comments 15:14:58 <abdelrhman> I will override it in its object by checking _isMucParticipant e.g ( get normalizedName() _isMucParticipant ? .... ) 15:17:18 <abdelrhman> let normalizedNick = aConv.target.getNormalizedChatBuddyName(aNick) , so getNormalizedChatBuddyName needs to, right? 15:17:27 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:17:50 <aleth> you'll have to change getNormalizedChatBuddyName and look at all the places in the code that getNormalizedChatBuddyName is called to check the assumptions made there 15:19:55 <aleth> the most painful task is to look at all the places normalize() is called though, as the XMPP code seems to do that a lot. 15:22:22 <aleth> The alternative would be to find a suitable special character (that is not too crazy, but also not allowed in jids) to replace the "/" with. In that case, normalize() would not strip the nick. Of course that also might have drawbacks... 15:23:20 <abdelrhman> yes, this is fast in coding, but needs a lot of testing 15:24:11 <aleth> One of the XMPP specs will say what the allowed characters are 15:24:40 <aleth> whatever route you go will need a lot of testing ;) 15:25:19 <abdelrhman> :) 15:25:49 <aleth> flo-retina: do we care about backwards compatibility with libpurple here? 15:26:11 <flo-retina> you mean for all logs, or only for MUC private messages? 15:27:02 <aleth> For MUC private messages 15:27:18 <aleth> i.e whatever libpurple uses at the normalizedName in that case 15:27:46 <flo-retina> I wouldn't worry too much about that 15:27:55 <aleth> I agree. Just checking. 15:28:00 <abdelrhman> Also for targetResource, what should have in this case, I did not catch that and the relation between _isMucParticipant and to getter? 15:28:21 <flo-retina> I mean, if you can keep compat without too much additional pain, go for it. But I wouldn't block landing a fix on that. 15:28:37 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 15:29:06 <aleth> abdelrhman: targetResource holds the resource you are currenty talking to, for contacts. (A contact may be online at the same time with multiple different devices == resources) 15:29:56 <aleth> For MUC participants, there are no multiple resources to worry about. So I asked you to check what its value is in that case, as it's used in the to getter 15:31:02 <abdelrhman> In this case should be null (after modify the code) 15:32:04 <aleth> OK, or it could hold the nick, depending on what works better. I pointed it out so you can check the code is consistent 15:32:53 <abdelrhman> to keep the code of writing message on UI is the same 15:34:14 <clokep_work> aleth: Isn't the XMPP normalize "wrong" in some sense? 15:35:11 <abdelrhman> so adding a comment for that would be enough based on last patch. 15:36:39 <abdelrhman> I think normalize will not do its description of its name in some cases. 15:37:16 <aleth> clokep_work: "wrong" how? 15:37:25 <aleth> it's a good time to bring up concerns! 15:38:59 <-- hadi has quit (Connection closed) 15:39:00 <abdelrhman> :D I'm going to fix that 15:39:18 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 15:40:19 <aleth> abdelrhman: So, the first challenge is to understand the code well enough to decide what the normalizedNick should be, and explain why. (Because once the decision is made, and the code ships, it's basically impossible to change later and maintain backwards compatibility) 15:42:34 <aleth> abdelrhman: Notice that the UI calls getNormalizedChatBuddyName to get the normalizedNick from e.g. a participant list entry. As I said before, it's a good idea to look at the code around those calls... 15:42:37 <abdelrhman> ok, I will work carefully on that, it may take long time due to my current exams 15:42:55 <aleth> No problem! Thanks for tackling this! 15:43:39 <abdelrhman> long time (a week as a maximum) :) 15:43:41 <aleth> Oh, another thing to keep in mind is that e.g. for IRC it's possible to add MUC participants as contacts (e.g. from the context menu). This is not possible for XMPP of course 15:44:17 <aleth> (because you can't find out the full jid of the person if all you have is a room participant muc jid, as far as I know) 15:44:25 <clokep_work> aleth: I thought it just did *weird* things. 15:45:26 <aleth> iirc it takes what's in front of the "/" and lowercases 15:45:28 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:45:40 <abdelrhman> but we can predict that using current room jid and user nick 15:46:07 <aleth> abdelrhman: No, because you don't know if the participant is on the same server, due to federation 15:46:23 <aleth> You can join a MUC on different server to the one you have your XMPP account on 15:47:31 <aleth> Unless I am missing something of course!@ 15:47:47 <abdelrhman> Ah, this is bad!, is the participant has an object 15:48:17 <aleth> It's probably in the MUC spec somewhere 15:48:38 <aleth> But I think the idea is that all you see of MUC participants is their nick on that MUC 15:49:32 <abdelrhman> https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp.jsm?from=xmpp.jsm#55 15:49:40 <-- hadi has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:49:59 <abdelrhman> and there is a map of nick and this object 15:50:33 <aleth> I'm not sure what you mean. 15:51:43 <aleth> If I join the XMPP developer chatroom jdev@conference.jabber.org as "aleth", how do you know my full jid? All you see is jdev@conference.jabber.org/aleth (unless there is a way to find out more in the spec) 15:52:08 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 15:52:53 <abdelrhman> for each muc has _participants map 15:52:54 <abdelrhman> https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp.jsm?from=xmpp.jsm#254 15:53:06 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 15:53:42 <clokep_work> aleth: Ah, maybe that's reasonable then. :) 15:53:46 <abdelrhman> the key is the nick e.g(aleth) and the object is contains the received stanza from the server of your details 15:54:02 <aleth> abdelrhman: yes - but does it contain the full jid or just the MUC jid? 15:54:04 * clokep_work would love to start using JS-XMPP by default. :) 15:54:12 <clokep_work> I think we're almost there with a lot of the work abdelrhman has done! 15:54:15 <aleth> abdelrhman is working hard on making it possible ;) 15:54:57 <abdelrhman> We will fulfill that soon :) 15:56:12 <aleth> There's also little point in landing XMPP video chats if we are not able to turn it on by default... 15:57:43 <abdelrhman> this is an example of received stanza of participant which will be added to the map (http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1490362) 15:57:46 <-- afiksof has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:58:01 <abdelrhman> what is it? 15:58:32 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird 16:00:09 <aleth> abdelrhman: So in that case there seems to be a jid provided in the <item> with a funny number behind it. I guess if there's a spec for that we might indeed be able to add such muc participants as contacts 16:00:51 <abdelrhman> yup 16:01:54 <aleth> aha! 16:02:05 <aleth> abdelrhman: check out section 7.2.4 16:04:35 <aleth> I wonder what the number at the end of the jid in your example stanze is for though 16:05:47 <aleth> never seen that before 16:06:30 <abdelrhman> I'm trying to find out what is this 16:06:59 <-- hadi has quit (Connection closed) 16:07:05 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 16:09:33 --> akronix has joined #instantbird 16:10:07 --> myk has joined #instantbird 16:10:21 --> hadi1 has joined #instantbird 16:10:33 <aleth> The comment here suggests it may actually be a good thing if for MUC participants normalizedNick != normalize(normalizedNick) https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/content/imtooltip.xml#342 16:12:34 <aleth> Or maybe that's a hack that should be improved ;) 16:13:19 <-- hadi has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:13:19 * hadi1 is now known as hadi 16:14:54 <abdelrhman> but I'm not sure, why normalizing of normalized name which is got from getNormalizedChatBuddyName? 16:15:16 <-- afiksof has left #instantbird () 16:17:15 <aleth> That code is for filling in the tooltip when you hover over a nick in a MUC. The code tries to figure out whether the nick is one of your contacts. 16:19:57 <-- hadi has quit (Connection closed) 16:20:23 <abdelrhman> ah 16:21:28 <aleth> In XMPP, "aleth" in a MUC may not be the same person as "aleth" in your contacts. In IRC on the other hand, you know it will be the same person. 16:21:59 <abdelrhman> we need to get the jid (user@domain) 16:22:10 <abdelrhman> to avoid such problem 16:22:29 <flo-retina> it's not always possible in MUCs, the server may be hiding it. 16:22:44 <aleth> Indeed (for anonymous MUCs, as we discussed before) 16:23:29 <aleth> Also, it's better to err on the side of not making any mistakes, as we simply use requestBuddyInfo to get the tooltip info for non-contacts. 16:23:46 <aleth> So it's not like anything breaks. 16:23:57 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 16:24:46 <abdelrhman> we can check that after response of requestBuddyInfo 16:25:26 <aleth> It'll be easier to just make requestBuddyInfo (not implemented for JS-XMPP yet) return the right data 16:30:53 <abdelrhman> and throgh implementing it in js-xmpp, we can obtain correct data with our checks instead of xml 16:33:41 <abdelrhman> I have searched for the number, but I did not find anything. 16:33:56 <abdelrhman> You can check that through (https://github.com/jappix/jappix) 16:35:40 <aleth> We don't have to worry about the number for now (I just hope it doesn't break _parseJID() ;) ). 16:36:38 <-- hadi has quit (Connection closed) 16:36:54 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 16:37:19 <abdelrhman> seems works well. 16:37:55 <abdelrhman> *working 16:41:24 <-- hadi has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:45:08 <abdelrhman> I think there is already a bug for that? 16:46:16 <aleth> For participant tooltips? I think so. 16:46:54 <abdelrhman> here is bug 1171691 16:46:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1171691 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Improve the participant tooltips for XMPP 16:54:20 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 16:54:48 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: :tiuQ) 17:00:58 <-- abdelrhman has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:07:58 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 17:07:58 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 17:13:23 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:17:39 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:18:02 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:25:54 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:42:29 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 17:42:29 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 17:58:52 <-- myk has quit (Connection closed) 17:58:54 --> myk has joined #instantbird 18:13:17 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:39:25 --> myk has joined #instantbird 18:59:56 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:02:55 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 19:04:05 <clokep_work> aleth: Did you look at the blame of imconversation.xml? 19:07:25 <-- gp has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:07:46 <clokep_work> aleth: https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/annotate/c352d4695e28/mail/components/im/content/imconversation.xml#l1280 looks like it's always been that way, you'll need to ask flo-retina. 19:08:11 --> jan_dembowski has joined #instantbird 19:08:44 <-- jan_dembowski has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:08:57 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:18:47 --> jan_dembowski has joined #instantbird 19:20:15 --> gp has joined #instantbird 19:25:18 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:32:05 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird 19:50:30 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 19:51:33 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 19:51:33 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 19:53:03 <flo-retina> akronix: hey, how are things? 19:56:53 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 20:00:09 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Connection closed) 20:00:49 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 20:02:34 <-- gp has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:03:29 <-- afiksof has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:07:06 <-- jan_dembowski has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:28:46 <aleth> Anyone remember what gecko version 1.5 was based on? 20:29:04 <clokep_work> aleth: https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:timeline almost does 20:29:23 <aleth> heh 20:34:38 <clokep_work> aleth: If you figure it out, please update that? 20:34:42 <aleth> 25, fwiw. 20:40:28 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 1171435 from --- to DUPLICATE. 20:40:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1171435 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Hebrew names sorted incorrectly in the contact list 20:41:06 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:41:59 <clokep_work> aleth: I updated that info on the page. 20:42:14 <clokep_work> Bah so did yo. 20:42:26 <aleth> clokep_work: I did too - did we midair? 20:42:50 <aleth> Maybe we can merge the results ;) 20:42:52 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:43:28 <clokep_work> I merged it, yeah. 21:00:27 --> gp has joined #instantbird 21:13:58 --> myk has joined #instantbird 21:18:34 <-- Tobin has quit (Connection closed) 21:18:42 --> Tobin has joined #instantbird 21:26:33 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 21:33:33 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:36:14 <-- Bollebib has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:03:17 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:15:07 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:24:30 <-- freaktechnik has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:25:56 --> freaktechnik has joined #instantbird 22:48:07 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 22:54:18 --> myk has joined #instantbird 22:58:21 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:24:20 <-- akronix has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 23:51:45 --> myk has joined #instantbird 23:55:48 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited)