#instantbird log on 06 05 2015

All times are UTC.

00:08:07 <EionRobb> flo-retina: oh, so "code source line information in debug log messages" as a replacement title perhaps?
00:12:32 <flo-retina> EionRobb: the title can be whatever, the only thing I care about is: what do we want to do with that?
00:16:52 <EionRobb> at the very least it should be in a dev/instantbird branch (similar to how we have the dev/adium/adium branch) so that you're not needing to maintain patches in iB land, but if it were to be integrated with libpurple main perhaps that could be a config.h/configure.ac setting, since not all UIs would need/support it?
00:17:34 * clokep_work has a branch in a local repo.
00:17:39 <clokep_work> A branch of pidgin w/ our changes in it.
00:18:24 <EionRobb> we should mirror that into hg.pidgin.im too
00:19:07 <clokep_work> Probably.
00:19:15 <clokep_work> I've just been too lazy to figure out what it is / get commit privs.
00:19:26 --> Alex1 has joined #instantbird
00:22:03 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
00:22:36 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird
00:22:36 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 
00:28:31 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
00:43:40 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
01:07:02 <-- Mook_as has quit (Client exited)
01:32:16 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited)
01:34:21 --> clokep has joined #instantbird
01:34:21 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 
01:35:32 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
02:12:09 <instant-buildbot> build #1417 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1417
02:12:13 <instant-buildbot> build #330 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/330
02:34:27 <instant-buildbot> build #2695 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2695
02:35:13 <-- Widdershins has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
02:35:23 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
02:44:05 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird
02:44:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 
03:00:16 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
03:11:00 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird
03:11:00 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 
03:14:08 --> myk has joined #instantbird
03:15:02 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
03:27:28 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird
03:58:47 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird
04:21:13 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird
04:21:13 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 
04:51:12 <-- Bollebib has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com)
04:53:25 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
04:58:27 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
05:02:04 --> myk has joined #instantbird
05:17:45 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
05:18:15 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird
05:43:25 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
05:54:09 <-- micahg has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
06:17:26 --> bogdan_maris has joined #instantbird
06:22:09 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird
06:26:29 <-- bogdan_maris has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
06:26:33 --> bogdan_maris has joined #instantbird
06:48:10 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird
06:51:20 --> EionRobb1 has joined #instantbird
06:52:58 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
07:10:34 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
07:19:50 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 
07:30:12 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
07:30:12 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
07:33:04 <-- bogdan_maris has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.)
07:45:19 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: :tiuQ)
08:42:11 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
08:46:15 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
08:46:15 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
08:59:48 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
09:10:47 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
09:15:09 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird
09:48:12 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird
09:48:12 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 
09:57:14 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
09:59:35 <-- Alex1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com)
10:13:36 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird
10:21:19 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird
10:49:23 <-- EionRobb1 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
11:01:37 --> clokep has joined #instantbird
11:01:37 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 
11:34:24 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
12:15:20 <aleth> I'm not sure I understand the last message to the mailing list. Is he working around DNSSRV? What's the original purpose of the server field in the advanced properties?
12:24:40 <flo-retina> he seems to be working around DNS or cert issue
12:24:41 <flo-retina> s
12:24:57 <flo-retina> I must admit I didn't pay too much attention, as he seemed happy and to not expect anything from us.
12:44:42 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird
12:44:42 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 
13:03:18 --> afiksof has joined #instantbird
13:03:56 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
13:07:03 <afiksof> hi, what's about my problem?
13:18:22 <clokep_work> What problem?
13:20:10 <afiksof> just a second, i'll paste the link. 
13:20:15 <afiksof> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1171435
13:20:17 <instantbot> Bug 1171435 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Hebrew names sorted incorrectly in the contact list
13:26:18 <afiksof> yes 
13:42:15 <clokep_work> Ah.
13:42:20 <clokep_work> I haven't really been following that.
13:42:35 <clokep_work> Seems like aleth is on the case though.
13:43:50 <afiksof> so, i'll email him or something 
13:50:42 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
13:50:42 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
13:51:41 --> Widdershins has joined #instantbird
14:01:16 <clokep_work> afiksof: He's here now.
14:01:17 <clokep_work> But...
14:43:00 <afiksof> so, hi aleth 
14:45:39 <aleth> afiksof: hello
14:47:21 --> myk has joined #instantbird
14:47:22 <aleth> Unfortunately I don't have time to look into that bug immediately. There's no "obvious" reason for it so it will take some digging
14:47:54 <afiksof> ok, just let me know 
14:48:45 --> myk1 has joined #instantbird
14:49:19 <aleth> afiksof: It would help if you could put a couple of test cases in the bug (e.g. "..." should come before "chris" but after "brian") to make it easier for non-Hebrew speakers to check this
14:51:24 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
14:51:24 * myk1 is now known as myk 
14:53:29 <afiksof> so, ok. after aleph, going bet, and so on. in the regular version, it was deffrent, before the hebrew, the english names were come 
15:15:44 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
15:19:43 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
15:19:43 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
15:32:22 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird
15:41:16 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
15:45:48 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
16:01:46 --> myk has joined #instantbird
16:02:59 --> myk1 has joined #instantbird
16:05:24 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
16:05:24 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
16:06:10 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
16:06:10 * myk1 is now known as myk 
16:13:14 <-- afiksof has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com)
16:20:35 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
16:28:21 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
16:49:42 <-- Bollebib has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
16:51:13 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
16:52:42 --> Widders has joined #instantbird
16:55:37 <-- Widdershins has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
16:56:38 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird
17:12:52 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird
17:12:52 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 
17:15:09 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird
17:28:48 <nhnt11> http://techcrunch.com/2015/06/05/skype-for-web-beta-now-open-to-all-u-s-and-u-k-users/
17:29:18 <nhnt11> Apparently it requires a browser plugin :S
17:46:25 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91.1 [Firefox 38.0.5/20150525141253])
17:47:59 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Sweet! :)
17:48:04 <clokep_work> Yeah it requires one.
17:48:08 <clokep_work> But that means IB could use it. ;)
18:05:39 <nhnt11> :)
18:09:39 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
18:09:39 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
18:48:27 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
19:04:05 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird
19:11:16 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
19:24:50 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird
19:24:50 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt12 
19:24:56 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
19:24:56 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
19:28:39 <-- nhnt12 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
19:35:11 --> micahg has joined #instantbird
19:40:14 --> myk has joined #instantbird
19:49:50 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
19:50:00 --> AlexanderSalas1 has joined #instantbird
19:52:15 <-- AlexanderSalas1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
19:53:35 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird
20:14:34 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
20:22:47 <-- Bollebib has quit (Connection closed)
20:22:49 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird
20:25:46 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird
21:00:24 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird
21:00:24 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 
21:10:00 <flo-retina> aleth: isn't locale compare a function that can give different results based on the user's current locale?
21:10:44 <aleth> everything in the bug refers to en-US though, unless I am mistaken
21:12:31 <flo-retina> aleth: fair enough, it was just a random thought, I haven't investigated in any way
21:12:38 --> myk has joined #instantbird
21:12:57 <aleth> no, it's not a bad thought, I was wondering too if the OS might somehow enter into it. Not sure.
21:13:23 <flo-retina> the OS too!
21:13:26 <flo-retina> I remember that's frustrating
21:13:33 <flo-retina> but I thought that was for the Date functions
21:13:50 <aleth> There it definitely enters. Not sure about localeCompare
21:47:48 <aleth> nhnt11: how about landing split logs? ;)
21:48:21 <nhnt11> ah yeah that would be nice...
21:48:23 <aleth> wasn't it already r+?
21:48:32 <nhnt11> Lo and behold, tomorrow is Saturday
21:49:03 <nhnt11> I've got quite a few Ib things I really want to work on :-/
21:49:17 <nhnt11> (that slash bug, the empty nick UI breakage bug...)
21:49:39 <nhnt11> I think it was partially r+
21:49:43 <nhnt11> The twitter part is r+
21:49:53 <aleth> iirc it was just waiting on gloda for bitrot reasons
21:49:56 <nhnt11> yeah
21:50:17 <nhnt11> I don't want to land it now without taking a look/testing it at least once though :)
21:50:39 <aleth> Btw, I'm not sure why the UI would break due to addBuddy throwing. We used to have a bug that caused it to throw due to adding buddies twice, and that didn't make IB unusuable either
21:50:58 <aleth> i.e. there may be more than one thing going on there
21:51:40 <nhnt11> aleth: Indeed! I certainly want to investigate it.
21:54:34 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
22:24:41 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 
22:28:07 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Connection closed)
22:29:17 <-- Bollebib has quit (Connection closed)
22:44:08 <nhnt11> Today I discovered that typing a "%" in Firefox's awesomebar makes it suggest all your currently open tabs
22:44:14 <nhnt11> That would be useful for Instantbird!
22:44:36 <nhnt11> For the awesomebar it would probably list all your current conversations, including the ones on hold
22:45:18 <aleth> worth a try!
22:45:40 <aleth> Though open conversations are at the top anyway iirc
22:45:48 <nhnt11> Not necessarilhy
22:46:01 <aleth> btw, there are some more shortcuts like that in Fx that are useful, like *
22:46:08 <nhnt11> Open conversations get a multiplier I believe, that pushes them up
22:46:13 <nhnt11> but not necessarily enough to put them at the top
22:46:23 <nhnt11> aleth: That's awesome, thanks!
22:46:24 <nhnt11> :D
22:46:36 <aleth> Anyway, it can be nice to be able to filter
22:46:45 <nhnt11> I remember reading about these a long time ago, but forgot
22:46:59 <Mook_as> Do any IRC networks use anything other than # for channel prefix? (Trying to figure out if that might conflict if they chose %)
22:47:10 <aleth> yeah, I'm sure there's even more that I've forgotten
22:47:25 <nhnt11> Mook_as: The spec says they can start with #, +,and & IIRC
22:47:40 <aleth> Not that we've ever seen that in the wild I think.
22:47:44 <Mook_as> Ah. So we don't have to avoid implementing a good feature. Awesome :)
22:48:09 <nhnt11> The % one would be very useful for me in the awesometab. Looking at my convs on hold is one of the few use cases that I still use the blist for
22:48:09 * Mook_as just tends to assume that if there's some way to do something wrong, some IRC client/server out there does it
22:48:20 <nhnt11> haha, that is true
22:49:15 <nhnt11> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2811#section-2.1
22:49:28 <nhnt11> They can start with "!" too apparently
22:49:57 <nhnt11> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955585#c2
22:49:59 <instantbot> Bug 955585 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Awesometab should have smarter filtering
22:50:06 <nhnt11> Mic already suggested this :(
22:50:11 * nhnt11 misses Mic
22:50:27 <aleth> yup, *and* he added a comment with a list of the Fx shortcuts :D
22:50:45 <nhnt11> I linked to that comment ;)
22:51:08 <nhnt11> I would like a week to work on awesometab improvements
22:51:41 <nhnt11> I've been finding it slightly lacking lately.
22:52:11 <aleth> It doesn't quite manage to replace the contact window yet
23:12:19 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
23:25:58 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Yes.
23:35:34 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited)
23:41:01 --> myk has joined #instantbird
23:41:07 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird
23:43:38 --> myk1 has joined #instantbird
23:47:07 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
23:47:08 * myk1 is now known as myk