#instantbird log on 05 09 2015

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03:43:44 <instant-buildbot> build #2662 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_5]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2662
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07:14:46 <instant-buildbot> build #302 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/302
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12:17:34 <clokep> flo-retina: FYI the windows build slave is offline.
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20:05:37 <nhnt11> Oh no, is DOM inspector broken? :(
20:05:56 <nhnt11> Trying to inspect a document results in 
20:06:07 <nhnt11> ...nothing
20:06:22 <nhnt11> opening the inspector results in a bunch of errors though
20:10:36 * nhnt11 just started his first fresh Ib build in ages :)
20:10:43 <clokep> :-D
20:11:56 <nhnt11> bug 1161930 annoyed me one too many times
20:11:56 <nhnt11> It's been happening rather often recently, I feel like something related to quick find changed and that's why I've been experiencing it
20:11:56 <nhnt11> I wonder why instantbot didn't pick that up. Bug 1161930
20:11:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1161930 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Quick find shortcut both opens the findbar and types a slash in the inputbox
20:14:57 <clokep> instantbot: botsnack
20:14:58 <instantbot> :)
20:15:00 <clokep> He's had a rough day.
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20:15:20 <clokep> nhnt11: So...STR for that are focus the conversation and type /?
20:15:29 <clokep> That brings up quick find for me, but still focuses the conv input.
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20:18:22 <aleth> nhnt11: could be a timing issue if the focus is moved back to the findbar after the opening animation completes
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20:20:21 <nhnt11> my connection just got really flaky all of a sudden
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20:20:39 <nhnt11> 01:45:14 - nhnt11: clokep: yeah
20:20:39 <nhnt11> 01:45:34 - nhnt11: It's annoying when, for example, I start typing /me something something and it scrolls way up and throws me off
20:20:39 <nhnt11> 01:46:25 - nhnt12: It doesn't focus the conv input for me
20:20:39 <nhnt11> 01:46:35 - nhnt12: It focuses the quick find bar
20:21:54 <nhnt11> The probable fix I've found is adding a |disablefastfind="true"| attribute to the convbrowser
20:21:54 <nhnt11> Since DOM inspector isn't working, I'll need a build to test it out
20:22:39 <clokep> nhnt11: Ah, yeah I can reproduce.
20:24:19 <aleth> I thought I put a fixed DOM inspector somewhere?
20:24:24 <aleth> Can't remember where though
20:25:16 <nhnt11> seems like the attribute needs to be set on the documentElement though, hmm
20:25:17 <nhnt11> Ah, it can be set on the window too apparently
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20:25:20 <clokep> My awesomebar can't find it.
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20:25:24 <nhnt11> I'll try setting it on the browser first though. It doesn't seem to be documented, so worth a shot.
20:26:26 <nhnt11> aleth: Oh, that's a known thing? I must have missed it :*
20:26:26 <nhnt11> :( *
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20:26:33 <nhnt12> aleth: Oh, that's a known thing? I must have missed it :(
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20:27:35 <aleth> nhnt12: it just needs updating with the upstream changes
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20:29:54 <nhnt11> aleth: Will the one built from source work then?
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20:30:43 <aleth> yes (if you put the IB specific stuff back in)
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20:42:06 <nhnt11> bah, the disablefastfind="true" thing isn't working from anywhere
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20:45:28 <nhnt12> So I found a hacky fix
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20:47:19 <nhnt11> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1287925
20:48:49 <nhnt11> I'm a little afraid of messing with the convbrowser code involving fastfind
20:48:49 <nhnt11> it seems to be forked from firefox...
20:50:07 <nhnt11> Now I'm trying to find the keyboard shortcut definition for fast find and disabling it from there.
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20:54:07 <Johnc> Hello, anyone know if InstantBird will do a real-time Im by allowing one client to connect to another client's IP directly and the end will see what I typed each characters?
20:54:42 <clokep> Johnc: You can use bonjour to do IM over a LAN, but it won't show you a character at a time.
20:54:50 <clokep> I don't know of ANY IM program that does that.
20:56:02 <Johnc> clokep, yes, AOL IM 7.5 does, however, it is becomign very obsolete.
20:56:27 <clokep> Johnc: So Instantbird will show you when someone is typing, but not each character until they press "Send"
20:57:44 <Johnc> Ok, thanks. My legally blind would prefers each characters to show up instead of waiting for another's type to complete with a "Send" button.
20:59:04 <Johnc> clokep: That would be my suggestion for the next minor or major upgrade! Add a feature for like I mentioned above!
20:59:35 <clokep> Johnc: The issue is that the underlying protocols don't support it.
20:59:55 <clokep> Johnc: FWIW we've tried to make Instantbird as accessible as possible nad have received a lot of feedback saying it's really great to use with a screen reader.
21:01:33 <Johnc> clokep: Wow, that is great. hey, what does FWIW means? I forgot, I have seen that a very, very LONG tiem, LOL.
21:01:45 * Johnc was a FidoNet reader!
21:04:26 <Johnc> Ah, anyway, I am also a legally blind myself, using ZoomText, I will have to download this one. I had to use the old AIM 7.5 because of a legally-blind woman's demand! LOL. She will have to be patient without a "Real-Time IM" feature. Frown. But, she has a problem with Google Talk on AIM 7.5 and a Helen Keller National center (HKNC) suggested this. I never heard of this myself to be honest. 
21:04:27 <Johnc> I am learning it.
21:04:50 <clokep> Johnc: "For what it's worth"
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21:05:25 <Johnc> Hello, flo-retina!
21:05:44 <clokep> Johnc: Great to hear that people are recommending us. :)
21:05:51 <Johnc> Ohhh, I think I never heard of "For What It Worth!" hmm!! Anyway, thank you for explaining to me.
21:06:12 <clokep> Not a problem.
21:06:24 * Johnc should give HKNC staff a credit! LOL.
21:07:46 * Johnc have seen a Computer Real-Time Transcription (CART) with a REAL-TIME transcription at a workshop, love this! Sadly, InstantBird won't support it, frown!
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21:09:27 <Johnc> clokep: I am a little confused by your channel's topic, does InstantBird connect to an IRC, right?
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21:10:49 <Johnc> Ah, IRC Log, but, does InstantBird connect to an IRC server like mIRC, XChat, etc.?
21:11:38 <flo-retina> Johnc: yes
21:12:13 <Johnc> COOL! Thanks, flo-retina for your reply. :)
21:12:34 <Johnc> flo-retina: Are you a Channel Founder? I see +qo flags!
21:12:45 * Johnc is a NetAdmin on another network with UnrealIRCd!
21:12:50 <flo-retina> yes
21:13:14 <Johnc> Ah okay. Nice to meet you. :)
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21:18:23 <Johnc> Ok, I need to go now. Thank you all for your great support. Have a good weekend!!!
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21:24:42 <nhnt11> 02:50:52 - nhnt11: flo-retina: Do you have any idea if there's a "proper" way to disable quick find?
21:24:42 <nhnt11> 02:51:44 - nhnt11: Adding event.stopPropagation to the code that gives the inputbox focus works, fwiw. http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1287925
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21:30:51 <flo-retina> nhnt11: maybe accessibility.typeaheadfind.autostart ?
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21:35:29 <nhnt12> flo-retina: Doesn't work.
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