#instantbird log on 04 30 2015

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03:35:47 <instant-buildbot> build #1381 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1381
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05:38:05 <instant-buildbot> build #1699 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1699
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05:59:41 <flo-retina> clokep: aleth's work in bug 1014609
05:59:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1014609 nor, --, ---, hiikezoe, ASSI, Remove dependency on jquery
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07:40:15 <Fallen> that "feature" to autocomplete people that are no longer in the channel has bitten me again...twice
07:41:05 <EionRobb> that sounds weird
07:42:29 <Fallen> I had an addon to disable it, but it had to replace a very long function in a binding and eventually the code was updated and my addon didn't work anymore
07:42:41 <Fallen> it usually happens to me after waking up from suspend
07:57:17 <flo-retina> we should probably expire nicks from the completion after a couple minutes
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08:23:34 <aleth> They *do* expire after a minute or two. iirc it bites Fallen because he's using a bouncer
08:23:59 <Fallen> yeah, it was something along those lines
08:24:16 <Fallen> I want them to expire instantly :-P
08:24:38 <Fallen> Would you at least accept a patch with a hidden pref?
08:24:43 <aleth> Fallen: sure
08:24:48 <Fallen> ok cool :-)
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08:41:32 <flo-retina> O_o
08:41:36 <flo-retina> How is the bouncer messing with that?
08:41:46 <flo-retina> ah, because you receive old messages when reconnecting?
08:42:00 <flo-retina> can these messages have a timestamp?
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08:53:03 <Fallen> flo-retina: they do, but no date: [02:01:31]
08:53:15 <Fallen> and if the server is in a different timezone, its an hour off
08:53:25 <Fallen> or whatever number of hours, for me its an hour off
08:54:16 <Fallen> flo-retina: on playback of the old messages, the users are still not in the channel. Can this be checked?
08:55:33 <instant-buildbot> build #293 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/293
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10:25:44 <clokep> flo-retina: I saw the jquery stuff, just that it's being removed or is there more reason you were pointing it out for? ;)
10:25:57 <flo-retina> because it's nice to land that! :)
10:26:17 <flo-retina> clokep: I was replying to "flo-retina: What we hearting? :-D"
10:26:25 <clokep> Ahhhh.
10:27:01 <clokep> :) Yes it is
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10:54:26 <clokep> Fallen: You're using ZNC, right?
10:55:06 <clokep> One of the 'new' extensions to IRC I think adds date/time to each message, not sure if that will help or not.
11:06:00 <clokep> Although I doubt we pull the time off the message, we probably just use "now"...
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16:19:14 <akronix> hi there!
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16:37:48 <aleth> akronix: Hello :-)
16:40:16 <akronix> So I was accepted for this project:
16:40:23 <akronix> in gSoc 2015
16:40:23 <akronix> http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/project/details/google/gsoc2015/akronix/5750085036015616
16:40:31 <akronix> Port libpurple changes from Instantbird 
16:40:45 <akronix> flo is my mentor
16:40:52 <akronix> btw, do u have any dev mailing list?
16:40:53 <aleth> that's flo-retina ;)
16:41:56 <aleth> yes, there's dev-chat@lists.mozilla.org
16:42:22 <aleth> it's not used much though.
16:42:57 <akronix> oh, so how do you usually communicate by?
16:43:56 <aleth> this channel
16:44:49 <akronix> good
16:45:14 <flo-retina> akronix: this channel has public logs (the url is in the topic), so even when we miss each other, it's possible to catchup
16:45:21 <flo-retina> we are also online most of the day anyway :)
16:45:31 <akronix> nice one!
16:46:16 <flo-retina> oh, and I forgot to say hello!
16:46:19 <flo-retina> aleth: nice to see you here :)
16:46:42 <aleth> I think you mean akronix ;)
16:46:59 <aleth> yet another pink nick :P
16:47:16 <flo-retina> yes, I do!
16:47:37 * flo-retina just typed a<tab> :-]
16:47:50 <akronix> ok, I will stay tuned to this chat. Although I'll be watching and not talking to much during the first times I guess
16:48:06 <flo-retina> akronix: have you used Instantbird yet?
16:48:18 <akronix> no, never :(
16:48:25 <flo-retina> seems like it's a good time to start
16:48:26 <akronix> I'm using pidgin rightnow
16:48:38 <akronix> it does, downloading..
16:48:39 <flo-retina> get used to it, so that you know what needs improvements in the integration :)
16:48:46 <akronix> haha
16:48:47 <aleth> probably a good idea to be able to build both too :-)
16:49:15 <flo-retina> also, it would be really good if before the end of the community bonding period you had at least built it yourself once, so that you are ready to start immediately at the beginning of the coding period :)
16:50:04 <aleth> pretty hard to fix a bug in the bonding period without building it...
16:50:41 <akronix> well, I had already took a look to the source
16:51:48 <akronix> taken*
16:52:34 <aleth> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Instantbird_build
16:52:50 <akronix> so, which version should i use?
16:53:13 <akronix> 1.5 ? nightly?
16:53:15 <flo-retina> nightly
16:53:18 <flo-retina> 1.5 is really old
16:54:17 <aleth> also, dogfooding ;-)
16:55:10 <akronix> aleth: what do you mean? xD
16:56:20 <aleth> using your own code to find bugs https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eating_your_own_dog_food
16:56:26 <flo-retina> akronix: yes, the source code is on mercurial
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17:55:02 <akronix1> doesn't instanbird compile with autoconf 2.69? does it have to be 2.13??
17:55:18 <akronix1> I get this error building: /home/akronix/workspace/comm-central/client.mk:328: *** Couldn't find autoconf 2.13.  Stop.
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17:57:44 <aleth> quite possibly
17:57:50 <aleth> did you try "mach bootstrap"?
17:59:02 <aleth> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Build_Instructions/Linux_Prerequisites says you need 2.13, but bootstrap should set it up for you
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18:10:59 <flo-retina> akronix: 2.13 is required, as the documentation says.
18:11:07 <flo-retina> akronix1: ^
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18:27:41 <clokep_work> akronix1: Hello. :)
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19:15:01 <Fallen> Who feels comfortable reviewing a build system patch? (Its for Lightning in Thundebird betas, but no one is around who knows his way around makefiles so I thought I'd ask here)
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20:32:39 <flo-retina> Fallen: is it a scary patch?
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20:34:26 <akronix> hi!! talking through self-builded instanbird now :D
20:34:44 <akronix> wow, this looks prettier than pidgin
20:35:41 <akronix> version 1.6a1pre (20150430210701)
20:35:49 <akronix> is is the last one, right?
20:36:22 <flo-retina> looks like it
20:36:45 <flo-retina> have you built it yourself? :)
20:37:03 <flo-retina> err, yes you have :)
20:37:28 <flo-retina> have you built it with libpurple included?
20:37:42 <akronix> nope
20:37:49 <akronix> just im
20:37:57 <akronix> next time ;)
20:38:22 <akronix> and it's in release mode as well
20:38:32 <akronix> should I work on debug?
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20:38:40 <flo-retina> what do you mean by "release mode"?
20:39:32 <akronix> I mean the build configuration, defined by .mozconfig
20:39:36 <flo-retina> and yes, next time you should build libpurple with it. That sounds useful for your project ;).
20:39:59 <flo-retina> right, I'm asking which line you put in there to put it in "release mode" (I see 2 possible things that you could call this way)
20:40:14 <akronix> haha actually I didn't put any
20:40:35 <akronix> just this: --enable-application=im
20:40:42 <flo-retina> ok
20:40:58 <flo-retina> so you have an orange and black icon that looks like a bomb?
20:40:59 <akronix> but, I was in doubt to build with ac_add_options --enable-debug
20:41:04 <akronix> that's why I ask
20:41:07 <flo-retina> you probably don't need a debug build.
20:41:20 <akronix> yeah, I do
20:41:24 <flo-retina> hmm, unless you need to use a (C++) debugger
20:41:38 <akronix> hope not '-.- hehe
20:41:39 <flo-retina> ok, so it's not a release build at all then ;)
20:42:49 <akronix> I've gotta say, I never used mercurial before, is it close to git?
20:43:20 <flo-retina> it does more or less the same thing as git, but it's way easier to learn how to use it.
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20:50:06 <Fallen> flo-retina: hwine took care, thanks for replying though :)
20:50:26 <flo-retina> :)
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