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01:57:58 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:04:33 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 02:10:10 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 02:11:31 <instant-buildbot> build #276 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/276 02:11:35 <instant-buildbot> build #1364 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1364 02:12:44 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 02:14:06 <instant-buildbot> build #2623 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2623 02:14:18 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection closed) 02:23:02 --> Widdershins has joined #instantbird 02:33:41 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 03:20:27 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 03:27:38 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 04:50:11 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 04:58:20 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 05:19:21 <-- Bollebib has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 05:28:03 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 06:16:04 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 06:28:41 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 06:28:55 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 07:03:02 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 07:19:08 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 07:41:29 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 07:46:50 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 07:49:58 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 07:55:41 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 08:33:04 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 08:33:16 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 09:07:47 <-- gerard-majax has left #instantbird ("Leaving") 09:45:21 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 09:49:28 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:16:29 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:16:29 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:17:21 --> clokep_tb has joined #instantbird 10:34:05 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 10:34:05 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 10:41:32 --> flo-linux has joined #instantbird 10:46:33 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:49:39 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 10:49:39 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 10:50:10 <clokep> Umm...some of the dates on http://ftp.instantbird.com/instantbird/nightly/latest-trunk/ are old. :-\ 10:50:12 <clokep> Like the Windows installer. 10:55:50 --> AlexanderSalas has joined #instantbird 10:56:02 <flo-retina> uh, why is there still so much junk on that page :( 11:01:15 * flo-retina cleaned up 11:03:46 <flo-retina> clokep: it looks indeed like we aren't uploading installers 11:03:51 <-- clokep_tb has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:03:53 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:03:59 <flo-retina> but why? and how come nobody noticed/complained earlier? :( 11:08:47 <mpmc> Maybe I'm the only one using the nightly installer? :p 11:11:22 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 11:12:26 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 11:16:43 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 11:50:47 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:50:47 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:39:16 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 12:53:56 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited) 13:19:37 --> nerd_bloke has joined #instantbird 14:27:38 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Likely because we auto-update, which doesn't use the installer. 14:36:14 <-- flo-linux has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 14:42:09 <flo-retina> hmm, 38 is already in beta? :-/ 14:42:14 <clokep_work> flo-linux: Get your TLS packets in line! 14:42:48 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I just turned off my thinkpad. Not sure why it didn't quit moznet cleanly :-S 14:43:23 <flo-retina> I think that message is just what the previous IRC server reported as "I/O error" 14:44:32 <flo-retina> we don't have much time left if we want to ship Ib #whatever at the same time as gecko 38 :-S 14:46:13 <clokep_work> Oh it totally is. :) 14:46:15 <clokep_work> Just being a jerk. 14:46:19 <clokep_work> I know. 14:46:25 <clokep_work> I'm just unsure what needs to be done. 14:58:46 <flo-retina> a lot. But there's no clearly identified list of the tasks :-/ 14:59:17 <flo-retina> a large part of the problem is that since the move to c-c, lots of things have never been tested, so we can/should more or less assume that they are broken 14:59:41 <flo-retina> eg. I just discovered yesterday that checking out the locales (first step of l10n repackaging) just doesn't work at all 14:59:55 <flo-retina> it attempts to call the client.py that we had in hg.instantbird.org/instantbird... 15:00:14 <clokep_work> Right. :-\ 15:00:34 * clokep_work sighs. 15:00:38 <flo-retina> I think we should make a goal of building a beta 'soon' 15:00:55 <clokep_work> Is there even a list of what we normally do to get to that point? So we can start checking them off as 'working' or FUBARed? 15:00:57 <flo-retina> hopefully that should uncover most of the brokenness, as that's a build that's localized and almost like a release 15:01:05 <clokep_work> Yes. :) 15:01:46 <flo-retina> that expired ssl cert is such a pain :( 15:02:07 <clokep_work> :-\ 15:02:11 <clokep_work> I've never dealt w/ that unfortunately. 15:02:17 <clokep_work> s/unf/f/ 15:02:26 <flo-retina> clokep_work: https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:release_process lists the stuff we usually do for a release 15:02:31 <flo-retina> but that release will be really different 15:03:46 <clokep_work> Bah, socorro... 15:03:51 <clokep_work> What's our deal w/ that? 15:04:10 <clokep_work> Do I need to take Even out for a nice meal to get it fixed? :-D 15:10:43 <flo-retina> hmm 15:30:11 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:02:17 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 16:02:17 <-- Widdershins has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:02:17 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 16:33:48 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 16:42:12 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 16:44:40 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 16:57:59 --> iLobster has joined #instantbird 16:58:19 <iLobster> good evening 17:00:01 <iLobster> is it possible somehow to turn off cert checking for Instantbird nightly update? 17:02:34 <clokep_work> That sounds like something you don'tw ant to do. 17:04:20 <iLobster> for me it's sounds better then to get "Server certificate has expired (please adjust your system clock to the correct date and time if it is incorrect)" and update "by hands" 17:04:43 <clokep_work> (o_O) 17:04:44 <clokep_work> What? 17:04:53 <clokep_work> I don't see how turning off cert checking is better? 17:04:58 <clokep_work> The cert is expired, you shouldn't trust it. ;) 17:05:03 <clokep_work> (Generally, at least.) 17:06:27 --> AyumuKasuga has joined #instantbird 17:06:53 <AyumuKasuga> Am I the only one who can't connect to Google Talk with Instantbird (and Thunderbird)? 17:06:56 <iLobster> well, i know it's vioalte basic security and stuff, but in this case i know this particular server 17:07:20 <clokep_work> AyumuKasuga: Can you not connect or cannot *re*connect? 17:07:55 <iLobster> version 1.6a1pre (20150409061700), just connected GTalk fine 17:08:11 <AyumuKasuga> I cannot connect at all. Started happening couple days ago out of the blue, account was connecting just fine in Thunderbird before that. Went to Thunderbird support forum, they told me Thunderbird's chat support was from Instantbird. 17:08:44 <clokep_work> Umm...someone else was reporting this (muravey, maybe?) 17:08:48 <clokep_work> But I haven't seen it, personally. 17:09:39 <AyumuKasuga> I just tried Instantbird, first connection attempt resulted in "Error: Received unexpected data." Subsequent attempts end in "Error: The server closed the connection." 17:10:06 <AyumuKasuga> I can use Google Talk from within a Gmail browser tab just fine. 17:10:52 <clokep_work> Getting a protocol log of the first connection would be nice. 17:11:03 <clokep_work> For reconnects you're running into bug 1123801 17:11:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1123801 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Google Talk (GTalk) cannot reconnect due to SSL session issues 17:11:13 <iLobster> hmm, if i start Instandbird and hit Connect GTalk - all fine. But if i hit Disconnsect and Connect again - it do not reconnect... But if i close Instantbird completly and hit Connect GTalk - it's all fine again >< 17:11:30 <Mook_as> iLobster: Yeah, the reconnect issue is known 17:12:06 <AyumuKasuga> >Getting a protocol log of the first connection would be nice. 17:12:08 <clokep_work> iLobster: Yes, that's the bug I just referenced. 17:12:10 <AyumuKasuga> How can I do that? 17:12:14 <clokep_work> AyumuKasuga: Right click > copy debug log 17:12:17 <clokep_work> On the account in the account manager 17:12:24 <AyumuKasuga> thx 17:12:44 <clokep_work> You can upload it to a pastebin or something else. 17:12:47 <clokep_work> http://pastebin.instantbird.org 17:12:57 --> mconley_ has joined #instantbird 17:13:03 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 17:13:53 * clokep_work has to bounce for a bit. 17:14:12 <iLobster> stupid Google >< 17:14:25 * mconley_ is now known as mconley 17:14:50 <AyumuKasuga> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1251243 17:15:51 <clokep_work> AyumuKasuga: Also, what version are you on? 17:16:08 <AyumuKasuga> instantbird-1.5.en-US.win32.installer 17:16:20 <clokep_work> Looks like a parsing error in the XML hmm... :-\ 17:16:27 <clokep_work> Not sure if that's "our" fault or "their" fault. 17:16:44 <clokep_work> You could try with a nightly build, there's also a work around for nightly builds for the reconnect issue. 17:17:46 <AyumuKasuga> ok will try nightly build now 17:19:46 <iLobster> nightlies are good, me use nightlies since 2008 or so... (i remember times when Instantbird's ICQ was not yet able to get nicnames, only numbers...) ;-) 17:19:47 <AyumuKasuga> Same result. 17:21:00 <iLobster> try to backup current profile and recreate new one? 17:22:05 <AyumuKasuga> the first time I attempted connection with Instantbird, not Thunderbird, was less than an hour ago, with a brand new Instantbird installation... 17:22:26 <AyumuKasuga> also, just tried connecting Instantbird to a different GTalk account, same result 17:24:36 <iLobster> i'm out of ideas, i'm just user 17:25:29 <AyumuKasuga> np thanks anyways 17:33:10 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 17:41:37 <AyumuKasuga> welp thanks for any and all help, I filed a bug report, l8s 17:41:38 <-- AyumuKasuga has quit (Quit: KVIrc 4.2.0 Equilibrium http://www.kvirc.net/) 17:50:38 <-- iLobster has quit (Connection closed) 19:06:31 --> radasbona has joined #instantbird 19:08:53 <-- radasbona has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:08:55 --> radasbona has joined #instantbird 19:11:45 <-- radasbona has left #instantbird () 19:44:56 --> mpmc1 has joined #instantbird 19:46:34 <-- mpmc has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:46:34 * mpmc1 is now known as mpmc 20:01:13 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:41:49 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 20:42:33 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 20:54:09 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:55:33 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 21:08:23 <-- Bollebib has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:00:07 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:00:07 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 22:00:16 --> clokep_tb has joined #instantbird 22:06:29 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Connection closed) 22:07:12 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 22:07:24 <-- Mnyromyr has quit (Connection closed) 22:10:43 --> Defman has joined #instantbird 22:25:46 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 22:25:46 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 22:34:42 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:34:56 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 22:34:56 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 22:34:57 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:43:41 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 22:43:41 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 22:43:44 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:02:37 <-- Defman has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 23:11:04 <-- clokep_tb has quit (Client exited) 23:11:22 --> clokep_tb has joined #instantbird 23:38:24 --> Widdershins has joined #instantbird 23:44:55 <-- Widdershins has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:57:33 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com)