#instantbird log on 03 20 2015

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00:11:43 <Fallen> flo-retina: uhoh, I have that display issue you recently mentioned. Did you find a fix for it?
00:11:54 <flo-retina> no
00:11:57 <flo-retina> :(
00:12:15 <flo-retina> I guess putting all convs on hold and reopening them would help
00:12:20 <flo-retina> but that's annoying
00:12:27 <Fallen> very much
00:12:49 <Fallen> cmd-tabbing a few times seems to help
00:12:51 <aleth> I had some luck with right click on a tab and "show logs" - somehow opening an extra window seemed to help
00:13:19 <aleth> New nightlies might help ;)
00:17:17 <clokep> Fallen: What's the status of your DNS SRV work?
00:17:26 <clokep> aleth: Was the fix checked in after our last nightly?
00:17:29 <clokep> Thta'd be unfortunate. :(
00:17:37 <Fallen> clokep: nothing new
00:17:46 <aleth> clokep: yes
00:17:48 <clokep> Alright.
00:18:02 <clokep> Fallen: In an unrelated question...how are the XPIs for Lightning made?
00:18:27 <Fallen> clokep: just setting XPI_NAME=lightning in the Makefile.in
00:18:33 <Fallen> the build system does the rest
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00:18:42 <clokep> Interesting...
00:19:10 <Fallen> the upload process requires some hooks if you are also interested in that
00:19:24 <Fallen> what are you planning
00:19:42 <clokep> I want to make our purplexpcom code make an XPI...
00:19:55 <clokep> Wasn't sure what I need to add (packaging code, etc.)
00:20:07 <clokep> How would I test this?
00:20:14 <clokep> Does mach package do it or...?
00:20:30 <Fallen> mach build already does. It gets put into dist/xpi-stage
00:20:56 <Fallen> mach package takes $app/installer/package-manifest.in and creates the distribution package
00:21:24 <clokep> I see
00:21:54 <Fallen> http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/calendar/lightning/lightning-packager.mk contains a lot of extra stuff, the main stuff is in http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/calendar/lightning/Makefile.in#8
00:22:08 <clokep> Thanks.
00:22:19 <Fallen> start with the Makefile, then pull in stuff from the packager as you need it
00:24:31 <Fallen> need sleep now. Let me know if you have questions
00:25:11 <clokep> Thanks! :)
00:26:53 <Fallen> clokep: oh and check the gdata provider. Makefile is a bit simpler there
00:27:05 <clokep> :) Thanks.
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01:01:53 <clokep_work> Hm...I actually have an XPI made! :)
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01:14:28 <clokep_work> aleth: Thanks for the comments. :)
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01:51:15 <instantbot> New Chat Core - General bug 1145477 filed by clokep@patrick.cloke.us.
01:51:16 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1145477 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Automatically package purplexpcom when building Instantbird
01:51:54 <clokep_work> That was surprisingly easy. :)
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03:23:44 <instant-buildbot> build #2591 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2591
03:28:04 <clokep_work> That might be from ^ https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/396bd3381cd4 ?
03:28:08 <clokep_work> https://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/filelog/cbd0efcd976c/dom/media/MediaPromise.h
03:28:13 <clokep_work> Looks like we should ask bholley about it.
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04:30:59 <instant-buildbot> build #1340 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1340
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04:37:30 * clokep_work just loves updating libpurple...
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04:56:51 <flo-retina> clokep_work: "I think this patch might break Instantbird's packaging of purplexpcom." is exactly the reason why I never actually made this xpi packaging patch.
04:57:14 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Oh? I'm sure there's a way we can work around it though.
04:57:17 <flo-retina> getting the add-on to be packaged as a .xpi as part of the build isn't very difficult
04:57:36 <flo-retina> but having the same code being built in 2 different ways is harder
04:57:51 <flo-retina> last time I thought about this, my plan was to have purplexpcom be an add-on for Instantbird too
04:58:13 <flo-retina> it wouldn't be an xpi, but it would live in the <appdir>/extensions/ folder, and be already unpacked
04:58:28 <clokep_work> Yes, that's an option.
04:58:33 <flo-retina> for some reason that plan never materialized
04:58:42 <clokep_work> Well now part of it is done for you. :P
04:58:45 <flo-retina> I seem to remember there was an issue that blocked me, but I can't remember what it was
04:58:52 <flo-retina> hopefully it's no longer a relevant issue :)
04:59:07 * clokep_work thinks he's tired of looking at libpurple.
04:59:49 <clokep_work> The way I upgraded to 2.10.11 was much more pleasurable though.
05:00:11 <flo-retina> I'm pretty sure I had WIPs in a bug
05:00:12 <clokep_work> In that it wasn't like putting my hand in a sewing machine, that's on fire, while being shot with a painball gun.
05:00:14 <instant-buildbot> build #1663 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1663
05:00:24 <flo-retina> last time I worked on that was when I did the first version of the additional prpls add-on
05:00:45 <clokep_work> Ahh...well...it should be easier now since it's actually a separate repo and we build it in extensions. :)
05:01:05 <flo-retina> or due to c-c-rework
05:01:12 <flo-retina> I seem to recall the real blockers were path issues
05:01:39 <flo-retina> oh yeah! purple/ had to be built after chat/, but before instantbird/
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05:02:27 <flo-retina> and while it's possible to get that to work with a single build system... at the time was had to build extensions/ at the same time as the mozilla platform
05:03:07 <clokep_work> RIght. :)
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05:03:42 <clokep_work> Well might be worth investing a little time into at some point.
05:03:48 <clokep_work> Was just something I had been meaning to play w/.
05:03:56 <clokep_work> SInce I didn't want to go through manually building this stuff again. :P
05:04:11 <flo-retina> a lot of history in bug 955009
05:04:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955009 enh, --, 1.6, clokep, RESO FIXED, Ship libpurple as an add-on and get Instantbird nightlies building off comm-central
05:04:16 <flo-retina> looks like none of it is relevant anymore :)
05:04:46 <clokep_work> (o_O) That's quite a bug.
05:04:53 <clokep_work> With impressive collaboration...
05:05:32 <flo-retina> yeah, that was a major effort
05:06:32 <flo-retina> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955009#c60 may still be relevant
05:06:35 <instantbot> Bug 955009 enh, --, 1.6, clokep, RESO FIXED, Ship libpurple as an add-on and get Instantbird nightlies building off comm-central
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06:22:15 <instant-buildbot> build #251 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/251
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08:55:48 <nhnt11> This could be interesting: techcrunch.com/2015/03/19/facebook-messenger-platform/
08:55:51 <nhnt11> http://techcrunch.com/2015/03/19/facebook-messenger-platform/ *
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10:33:21 <clokep> Fallen|away: Thanks. :) MOZILLA_SRCDIR wasn't defined, that's what my comment was alluding to. I'm unsure why.
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10:55:57 <clokep> nhnt11: That Facebook article didn't say too much. :)
10:56:16 <clokep> Uhh...or perhaps :(
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11:59:10 <Fallen> clokep_work: are you building from the comm build system? This is where its coming from: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/config/baseconfig.mk#15
12:00:06 <Fallen> god this display refresh issue is really annoying
12:01:12 <aleth> Fallen: any ideas as to why http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2591 is failing while local builds work ok?
12:02:05 <clokep_work> Fallen: I definitely know where it's *supposed* to be defined. I don't understand why it *isn't*. In that file.
12:02:17 <clokep_work> Putting on hold and restoring seems to work. :)
12:03:39 <Fallen> aleth: different clang++ versions?
12:04:35 <aleth> Fallen: hmm, could be
12:09:58 <clokep_work> aleth: Did you see my comment last night?
12:10:38 <aleth> Yes, did you ask bholley about it?
12:13:46 <clokep_work> I just woke up!
12:14:14 <aleth> I meant last night ;) guessing he's in SF...
12:15:26 <clokep_work> He was offline.
12:15:34 <clokep_work> I did check. :)
12:31:45 <clokep_work> aleth: Did you get https://github.com/inspircd/inspircd/issues/1017#issuecomment-83834124?
12:31:49 <clokep_work> I don't understand.
12:32:40 <aleth> I don't either
12:35:32 <clokep_work> K, well that makes me feel better.
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13:43:12 <clokep_work> aleth: So any thoughts ona work-around for the unreal CASEMAPPING thing?
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14:18:58 <aleth> clokep_work: is it worth it?
14:19:16 <clokep_work> Maybe not. :)
14:19:31 <clokep_work> Just wondering if you gave it 15 seconds of thought to see whether it's 'easy' or not.
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16:54:45 <clokep_work> Hi arlolra. :) How goes things?
16:56:08 <arlolra> hey
16:56:52 <arlolra> it's going ok
16:56:58 <arlolra> are we going to check in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1138689
16:57:00 <instantbot> Bug 1138689 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, /me and /action should fire a sending-message notification before actually sending the action
16:58:26 <clokep_work> arlolra: It still has a flag for flo-retina to look at it.
16:58:37 <arlolra> ah, k
16:58:43 <clokep_work> Things don't get checked in if they have a ? on them still.
16:58:55 <clokep_work> (I want to know the deal with the fromPrpl at least...:))
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16:59:24 <arlolra> makes sense. no rush
16:59:33 <arlolra> we got an ar translation of the extension
16:59:34 <arlolra> https://github.com/arlolra/ctypes-otr/commit/bdf373246171260211f57b681327831e5d3cbce2
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17:00:29 <arlolra> and I added a way to view your fingerprint in the pref pane (so you don't need to start a session to see it)
17:00:29 <arlolra> https://github.com/arlolra/ctypes-otr/commit/38dea344de7b0fe0b324e3c58950afd0e5c7f3d3
17:00:44 <clokep_work> Cool. :)
17:00:47 <clokep_work> Wait, let me upate...
17:01:01 <arlolra> i've also got a branch going to do key generation in a background thread
17:01:02 <arlolra> https://github.com/arlolra/ctypes-otr/compare/thread
17:01:09 <arlolra> chromeworker i should say
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17:01:41 <clokep_work> I see. How's that going?
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17:02:34 <clokep_work> arlolra: So I'm surprised each account has a different fingerprint?
17:02:38 <clokep_work> Why's that?
17:04:21 <arlolra> i suppose to tie the identity to the account. you might want to segregate that and not advertise that you're the same person on irc that you are on twitter or what not
17:06:23 <arlolra> the chromeworker stuff is going ok
17:06:45 <arlolra> i'm using the PromiseWorker api, which is nice
17:07:06 <clokep_work> Fair enough.
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17:13:54 <flo-retina> "each account has a different fingerprint" doesn't seem right to me.
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17:14:53 <arlolra> why not? my argument above doesn't hold?
17:20:23 * flo-retina is in a meeting now.
17:20:36 <flo-retina> I'll answer that question with links to the code / interfaces to explain
17:21:13 <arlolra> ok
17:21:24 <arlolra> no rush. I'll be around
17:21:34 * flo-retina is in SF this week.
17:21:43 <flo-retina> (saying this for timezone)
17:21:53 <arlolra> hey welcome to my timezone!
17:23:18 <arlolra> just fyi, this is the way pidgin-otr does it, which was written by the protocol designer
17:28:38 <flo-retina> arlolra: so the general idea is that accounts are not tied to identities.
17:28:59 <flo-retina> there's an imIUserStatusInfo http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/components/public/imIUserStatusInfo.idl#13 instance for each identity
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17:29:33 <flo-retina> each account is attached to an identity: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/components/public/imIAccount.idl#317
17:29:44 <flo-retina> and there's a global identity used as a fallback
17:30:33 <flo-retina> the global one is at http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/components/public/imICoreService.idl#28
17:31:47 <flo-retina> I think having the same fingerprint for several accounts could potentially enable interesting things, like starting an encrypted conversation on one IM network and continuing on another one
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17:41:22 <arlolra> ah, k, well it isn't a strict requirement
17:41:30 <arlolra> but lets see how that would map to an otr session
17:42:16 <arlolra> the sessions consists of (account, protocol, contact)
17:42:56 <arlolra> protocol usually sets things like max message size
17:46:35 <arlolra> so as long as that doesn't change, it can probably happen pretty seamlessly
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18:11:09 <flo-retina> what I'm saying is that we should ideally attach the fingerprint to the imIUserStatusInfo objects
18:20:57 <arlolra> essentially we should generate a private key for each imIUserStatusInfo object and use it for any associated account. there isn't a great api for that in libotr. we'd need to manually generate the a file in the libotr privatekeys format (s-expressions) and then read it in with otrl_privkey_read
18:22:45 <arlolra> I opened https://github.com/arlolra/ctypes-otr/issues/44 for this
18:23:05 <arlolra> (let me know if you want me to remove your nick there)
18:23:59 <flo-retina> doesn't matter :)
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19:16:39 <deOmega> hello IB.  ANy luck on the idea to fix the 'john is typing a message' notification?
19:17:12 <deOmega> If not, is there a way to turn it of fin the mean time? it  REALLY gets in the way
19:17:31 <deOmega> if there a way to turn it off?
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19:37:09 <aleth> deOmega: easiest way to worka around it at the moment is to use a message style with more space at the bottom
19:38:03 <deOmega> ok  thx
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19:53:00 <deOmega> aleth: Thanks...we all chose to turn off typing notification.  Prefer to keep using the message style that has the user avatar on each line of the conversation.
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21:27:59 * clokep_work wonders if flo-retina has pointers of where to start for bug 953602
21:28:01 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=953602 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unify proxy settings
21:29:35 <flo-retina> I probably do
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21:29:40 <flo-retina> is someone interested in picking this up?
21:30:08 <clokep_work> I'm interested in getting rid of our extra proxies, yes.
21:30:16 <clokep_work> Since oyu said it shouldn't be *too* much work.
21:31:08 <clokep_work> I figure while I'm doing all this work in libpurple...might as well fix some random stuff we have going on there. :)
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22:08:11 <aleth> flo-retina: Regarding the OSX nightly build failure, it looks like clang on the build slave needs updating https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1135424#c26
22:08:13 <instantbot> Bug 1135424 nor, --, mozilla39, bobbyholley, RESO FIXED, Consider making the state machine thread a task queue
22:08:43 <aleth> The error in the log is the same as https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1135424#c20
22:10:01 <aleth> -> bug 1129499
22:10:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1129499 nor, --, ---, dholbert, RESO FIXED, Update clang version on B2G Desktop OS X builders
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22:13:04 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Well if you could put thoughts in the bug or here at some point sometime maybe in the future...that'd be nice.
22:15:39 <clokep_work> Would anyone be against me hg rm -r qq?
22:15:51 <aleth> Long overdue.
22:16:09 <aleth> Unless there's some new version...
22:17:28 <EionRobb> there's a new version
22:17:48 <aleth> aha! just the person I was going to ping ;)
22:17:52 <clokep_work> I assume it's unrelated to the old one though. :P
22:18:03 <clokep_work> Which would mean we'd want to remove the old one first anyway.
22:18:06 <EionRobb> https://github.com/xiehuc/pidgin-lwqq
22:18:10 <EionRobb> unrelated, yeah :)
22:18:39 <clokep_work> Ah, I couldn't get that to build or work or something last time I looked at that.
22:19:18 <clokep_work> https://github.com/xiehuc/pidgin-lwqq/blob/master/src/CMakeLists.txt#L56 (O_O)
22:19:56 <EionRobb> oh jeeze
22:19:57 <aleth> probably for that captcha page?
22:20:04 <EionRobb> and it uses pthreads and openssl
22:20:05 <EionRobb> wtf
22:20:25 <clokep_work> ;)
22:20:40 <clokep_work> aleth: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1231830 rs?
22:20:53 <aleth> rs=me
22:21:25 <clokep_work> Is "Remove old libpurple qq code." a reasonable message?
22:21:39 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Btw I actually took pidgin's source and used the repo to do our latest update...
22:21:39 <aleth> Yes
22:21:50 <EionRobb> clokep_work: blimey.  how'd that go? :)
22:22:54 <clokep_work> EionRobb: I believe I Described it as "The way I upgraded to 2.10.11 was much more pleasurable though. In that it wasn't like putting my hand in a sewing machine, that's on fire, while being shot with a paintball gun."
22:23:11 <EionRobb> :D
22:23:58 <clokep_work> Still a bit of a ridiculous process, but not *as* bad IMO.
22:24:22 <clokep_work> http://hg.mozilla.org/users/florian_queze.net/purple/rev/588da0147f07
22:25:04 <clokep_work> Removing lots of code always makes me feel powerful. ;)
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22:30:17 <EionRobb> oh man, https://github.com/xiehuc/pidgin-lwqq/wiki/simple-user-guide#hash-function says it compiles libmozjs into the prpl so it can parse javascript for doing some crazy hash thing
22:31:15 <aleth> o_O
22:31:29 <clokep_work> I take it back, I don't think I ever *tried* to compile it
22:34:53 <flo-retina> clokep_work: unless you remove the references to the qq folder in the build system, that will make builds fail ;)
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22:36:08 <clokep> flo-retina: We haven't been building qq forever.
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22:37:37 <flo-retina> clokep: then you can see I haven't looked at that code in a while :(
22:37:47 <clokep> flo-retina: Ironically you were the one who killed it. :-D
22:53:26 <flo-retina> looks like I don't know what I did then
22:59:02 <clokep> flo-retina: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/florian_queze.net/purple/rev/8e825c68b4a7
23:10:54 <clokep> flo-retina: is bug 1066115 fixed?
23:10:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1066115 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, hg.instantbird.org/l10n/en-US isn't updated anymore
23:12:39 * clokep is looking at the blockers.
23:17:52 <flo-retina> "Internal Server Error" doesn't look friendly :-S
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