#instantbird log on 03 06 2015

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00:24:45 <clokep> I thought aleth was handling that bug. ;)
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00:36:42 <clokep> Hm...I think it's r- anyway.
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05:06:57 <instant-buildbot> build #1326 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1326
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10:03:25 <instant-buildbot> build #1649 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1649
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10:04:33 <flo-retina> yesterday I was wondering if there would be a way to make the about command auto-complete
10:05:04 <flo-retina> ie. type "/ab net<enter>" and that would open "/about networking" automatically
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11:27:45 <clokep> flo-retina: I think we've talked about auto-completing everything everywhere. ;)
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11:28:01 <clokep> That would probably involve finding the command having it implement an auto-complete function that returns possibilities?
11:28:29 <flo-retina> clokep: I was thinking about partial argument actually, not completion
11:28:38 <clokep> Ah.
11:28:47 <clokep> Well...that would still get done in the command. :)
11:28:54 <flo-retina> currently /ab net results in ""net" is not a valid about page."
11:29:11 <flo-retina> so I was thinking specifically about the command.
11:29:33 <flo-retina> clokep: the "still r-" comment you made in the log; was that about the previous version of Arlo's patch, or the current one?
11:29:41 <clokep> Got it. :)
11:29:53 <clokep> flo-retina: The current one...and then I got distracted migration email accounts and never commented. :-[
11:31:04 <Hwold> hello ; found an odd issue, don’t know if the bug lies in instantbird on the server : i can join only lowercase rooms
11:31:13 <Hwold> when I join a room on our internal XMPP server (for example Test), the reply is converted lowercase and instantbird is at loss (Warning: received presence stanza for unknown buddy test2@conference.srvxmpp/testuser)
11:31:30 <Hwold> does it deserve a bug report or should I spit on the server ? :)
11:31:58 <flo-retina> Hwold: Hello. I don't know :)
11:32:17 <flo-retina> Hwold: I guess you can check what Instantbird sends and receives to verify that what it does make sense
11:32:32 <flo-retina> you can find a debug log for the account from the context menu of the account manager
11:32:35 * clokep wonders if he's using JS-XMPP or not.
11:32:59 <flo-retina> "received presence stanza for unknown buddy" is clearly a message from JS-XMPP
11:33:45 <Hwold> it’s the integrated client in thunderbird 31.5
11:34:23 <clokep> Yeah I typed that before reading. :)
11:34:36 <clokep> Hwold: Then don't say it's Instantbird. ;)
11:34:56 <clokep> What Florian suggested is the best thing to do, yeah. :) From there you'll be able to see if it's trying to join the lower-case room or not.
11:34:59 <clokep> If so...definitely a bug!
11:35:01 <Hwold> wasn’t it the same code ?
11:35:29 <clokep> Instantbird has more protocols and the UIs are completely different.
11:35:35 <clokep> Plus TB 31.5 is much older code.
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11:35:51 <Hwold> it’s trying to join an uppercase room (Test2) and the server replies with a lowercase one (test2)
11:36:19 <Hwold> i’ll guess i should try with a recent intantbird then :)
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11:37:54 <clokep> Hwold: You should get a debug log like flo-retina suggested.
11:38:23 * flo-retina is stuck attempting to debug moz.build issues :(
11:40:30 <Hwold> log there : http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1225479
11:40:36 <Hwold> (still thunderbird tho)
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11:41:25 <clokep> So it seems to send it with a capital T on line 2 and receive it with a capital T on line 9.
11:41:37 <clokep> Sorry receive it with a lowercase t on line 9.
11:41:41 <Hwold> yes
11:41:49 <clokep> flo-retina: Is XMPP supposed to be case insensitive like IRC?
11:42:01 <flo-retina> ok. So I guess we need to figure out if that part is supposed to be normalized or not
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11:48:30 <clokep> Hwold: So i would say you should 1. try it with a Thunderbird nightly build (or TB 38 alpha build). 2. If it still happens, file a bug with the information you know (including the debug log)
11:53:31 <flo-retina> clokep: wasn't that debug log from an Ib nightly enough?
11:53:53 <clokep> flo-retina: He said it was "(still thunderbird tho)"
11:54:00 <Hwold> that wasn’t from an ib nightly
11:54:12 <flo-retina> bah... sorry
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11:54:27 * flo-retina got confused between that pastebined log and a log he himself generated :(
11:55:08 <clokep> And I suggested using Thunderbird nightly since I didn't feel like explaining how to enable JS-XMPP. :-D
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12:08:16 <aleth> flo-retina: probably the most timeconsuming part of making /about understand partial parameters is finding a way to get a list of all the about pages...
12:09:07 <flo-retina> aleth: I'm hoping the code of about:about could help :)
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12:11:25 <Hwold> OK, the bug is already fixed in TB 38a2
12:11:42 <flo-retina> it's sad that --disable-compile-environment is so broken :(
12:12:15 <aleth> Hwold: that's good news :-)
12:14:35 <flo-retina> so, I already have 2 reasonable fixes for configure.in issues
12:14:43 <flo-retina> one unreasonable fix for moz.build issues
12:14:49 <flo-retina> and things still don't work at all :-S
12:14:54 <aleth> flo-retina: what's broken?
12:15:21 <flo-retina> aleth: trying to build a langpack on a machine that doesn't have all the build dependencies
12:15:26 <flo-retina> (eg. no compiler)
12:15:29 <flo-retina> I'm probably going to give up soon
12:15:35 <aleth> oh :-S
12:15:51 <flo-retina> the current error message is: make[2]: *** No rule to make target `target', needed by `libs'.  Stop.
12:15:55 <flo-retina> I don't find it very helpful
12:24:01 * aleth wonders if that works for TB
12:25:42 <flo-retina> aleth: it doesn't work for Firefox ;)
12:26:10 <aleth> trying to make it work for IB is a brave step then ;)
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12:39:06 * flo-retina filed bug 1140364 and bug 1140365
12:39:09 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1140364 nor, --, ---, florian, NEW, configuring with --disable-compile-environment fails on Mac while looking for CoreMedia/CoreMedia.h
12:39:10 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1140365 nor, --, ---, florian, NEW, Incorrect path to nsinstall.py when using --disable-compile-environment in comm-central
12:39:36 <flo-retina> bernard: are you in Valentia?
12:44:28 <flo-retina> I also picked a fight with bug 1063880
12:44:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1063880 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, --disable-compile-environment builds broken since bug 1047267
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13:17:44 <clokep_work> Hm.m..
13:17:48 <clokep_work> I was just server a *full* update.
13:17:52 <clokep_work> It failed to verify or whatever.
13:17:56 <clokep_work> Then I was server a partial update
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13:18:32 <flo-retina> clokep_work: that's a bug we've had for about a year I think
13:19:06 <clokep_work> Oh really?
13:19:12 <clokep_work> Guess I don't pay attention. :-D
13:19:30 <clokep_work> I probably don't update enough to notice...
13:27:38 <flo-retina> It doesn't happen consistently, but I do see it several times per week
13:28:09 <flo-retina> I somehow suspects it involves a partially downloaded update that fails to resume when getting back online
13:28:18 <flo-retina> but that's just a random guess
13:28:39 <flo-retina> I see that problem typically when I arrive at the coworking space and reconnect
13:30:29 <clokep_work> Ooo well that's when I just saw it.
13:30:47 <clokep_work> Well not at your coworking space. ;)
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14:30:15 <flo-retina> arg...
14:30:47 <flo-retina> so, configuring without --disable-compile-environment and attempting to build a langpack doesn't work either :(
14:30:57 <flo-retina> because then the binary version of nsinstall is missing / not built
14:32:14 <clokep_work> :-\ Frustrating.
14:32:19 <clokep_work> So...how does Mozilla do this stuff?
14:32:30 <clokep_work> Or do they just do full builds?
14:32:55 <clokep_work> (Stupid (?) question: instead of caring about this, would it make sense to just make langpacks after nightlies are built?)
14:39:33 <flo-retina> ah, I found a make incantation that bypasses the problem
14:40:30 <flo-retina> clokep_work: the goal is to enable a translator to test his work immediately
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14:46:51 <clokep_work> Rgr.
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15:05:34 <flo-retina> so... I have a simple patch that makes the libpurple strings be included in langpacks
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15:06:01 <flo-retina> however I haven't figured out (yet? :)) how to make them appear in the output that's generated from the merge step, which is what we use to send the feedback email to translators :-/
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19:20:54 <abdelrhman> aleth: Do I need to handle/detect all errors or the error of "Registration Required" only?
19:21:51 <abdelrhman> also, I didn't map between code and conditions because one code may refer to more than condition
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19:47:12 <abdelrhman> aleth: I'm talking about bug 1087357
19:47:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1087357 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, XMPP does not detect when rooms are private and cannot be joined
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19:48:02 <aleth> abdelrhman: ah, I didn't see that, I was offline.
19:49:00 <abdelrhman> Do I need to handle/detect all errors or the error of "Registration Required" only?
19:49:06 <aleth> For this bug, it's enough to handle "registration required" properly, but you should write it in a way so that it can be extended easily later.
19:49:16 <abdelrhman> ok :)
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22:07:38 <clokep> Uh oh. __noSuchMethod__ is deprecated...
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22:08:29 <aleth> :-(
22:08:41 <aleth> are we forced to Proxy?
22:08:43 <Mook_as> Yeah, I think the workaround is proxies :(
22:08:56 <clokep> We're not forced to do *anything^ yet.
22:08:58 <clokep> It's deprecated.
22:09:09 <clokep> Also I'm trying to read the thread but TB keeps timing out...
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22:10:15 <clokep> Ah jcranmer to the rescue: "FWIW, I've found that both the uses in comm-central are basically poor man's reimplementation of ES6 classes, so I don't think it's worth removing this code until ES6 classes land. "
22:10:50 <aleth> True, as long as they don't remove it.
22:11:43 <clokep> Yes...
22:11:46 <clokep> Well we'll waatch closely.
22:11:57 <clokep> And they say the replacement is to use Proxies or "implement methods directory" or something.
22:12:05 <aleth> ah, "we'll likely wait a few months" before removing 
22:12:28 <aleth> I'm sure we could do it with a Proxy, but a class would be nicer.
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22:13:38 <clokep> I'd rather implement the methods directly I think, haha.
22:13:46 <clokep> Whoever came up with the Proxy syntax...well...
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22:17:00 <aleth> https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/es-discuss/2011-December/018834.html
22:17:38 <aleth> ...
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22:19:37 <clokep> Not sure it really does what we want though.
22:19:43 <clokep> I bet that doesn't work with typeof and such.
22:19:45 <clokep> Not sure if we care.
22:19:59 <clokep> I guess our current one doesn't either though...
22:20:09 <aleth> It has tests! We just need to pass those.
22:20:19 <clokep> Haha
22:20:26 <clokep> Fun thing tests are. :P
22:20:47 <clokep> aleth: Thanks for the link.
22:21:05 <clokep> I still find the syntax inane.
22:21:57 <aleth> It probably makes sense if you write JS engines for a living?
22:22:07 <clokep> Yes...
22:22:12 <clokep> But that's not a good way to write an API.
22:22:12 <clokep> Brb
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