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02:21:06 <Widdershins> What's the nightly-build workaround for the google talk disconnect bug?
02:24:10 <nhnt11> Widdershins: "If you want to workaround the problem, you can go to about:config (type "/about config" in a conversation), create the boolean preference security.ssl.disable_session_identifiers and set it to true." (from https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1123801#c9)
02:24:12 <instantbot> Bug 1123801 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Google Talk (GTalk) cannot reconnect due to SSL session issues
02:25:40 <Widdershins> does this work in 1.5?
02:26:28 <nhnt11> I think not.
02:26:33 <Widdershins> gotcha
02:27:51 <Widdershins> XMPP in 1.5 was working alright until i noticed that my contacts list was not complete
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05:04:45 <instant-buildbot> build #1306 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1306
05:23:10 <instant-buildbot> build #2537 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2537
05:29:27 <harshit> Can someone please suggest me areas to look for this bug ? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955085
05:29:29 <instantbot> Bug 955085 min, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Typing status not cleared when contact goes offline
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08:19:11 <instant-buildbot> build #217 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/217
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11:40:45 <aleth> harshit: Did you do what I suggested in the bug?
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11:58:15 <harshit> aleth: Yes. I have built it on my machine.
11:58:40 <harshit> I have observed the bug myself.
11:58:59 <harshit> So I guess I can reproduce it if required.
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12:06:18 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 1133199 filed by meyer.thibault@hotmail.fr.
12:06:19 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1133199 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Message encoding is not valid on Netsoul
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12:12:02 <aleth> harshit: So you can reproduce it with your own build (i.e. with the latest code)? OK.
12:13:32 <aleth> I just want to make sure the bug hasn't been fixed by other patches since it was filed.
12:19:20 <harshit> I have tried with the latest release. It was still there. Still, I will confirm with my recent build.
12:25:40 <aleth> The last release was 1.5, that's over a year ago.
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12:39:36 <harshit> aleth: Latest build provides more info as " X has stopped typing".
12:39:54 <harshit> But notification remains even when X goes offline.
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12:44:57 <aleth> harshit: OK, so here's some relevant code: In the XMPP backend, it's handled here https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp.jsm#1075
12:46:36 <harshit> aleth, Ok.
12:46:38 <aleth> The UI part is around here https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/content/conversation.xml#1654
12:47:05 <aleth> You'll probably want to look at a debug log (type /debug from the open conversation) to see what is being sent from the server
12:47:49 <aleth> Try to follow in the code what happens when the typing notification disappears successfully, then find out what is different if the contact goes offline.
12:48:42 <harshit> aleth: Got it.
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12:51:30 <aleth> The backend talks to the frontend UI via notifications, they are observed here https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/content/conversation.xml#1864
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12:59:33 <harshit> aleth, That's all?
13:00:35 <aleth> It's a place to start. You'll probably have to look at the surrounding code to understand it ;)
13:01:10 <harshit> Ok. Thanks a lot !
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14:41:32 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 1127609 from --- to FIXED.
14:41:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1127609 nor, --, 1.6, nhnt11, RESO FIXED, Debug log tab searches in wrong direction
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19:55:06 <Widdershins> aleth, or another dev, you around?
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19:55:39 <Widdershins> I'm having an issue with curtailed sound files in 1.6a1pre
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20:39:12 <clokep_work> Widdershins: I have no idea what that means.
20:44:16 <Widdershins> clokep_work: the sound files i have for my sound replacement extension are very short, 180-190ms
20:44:25 <clokep_work> OK.
20:44:35 <Widdershins> they play fine in 1.5 but in the nightly it cuts off maybe the last half
20:45:40 <Widdershins> it works again if i pad them out to 500ms with silence but it's still a bug
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20:48:22 <Widdershins> my guess is it's just discarding the buffer early
20:48:44 <Fallen> clokep_work, Widdershins: I've heard of something like that in an old Lightning bug, we never found out why. bug 369065
20:48:46 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=369065 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Alarm plays only first few seconds of sound file
20:49:11 <Widdershins> well fortunately it's wasn't always broken
20:49:44 <Widdershins> my system and even my profile folder are exactly tye same in both cases, the only difference that i replaced the application folder contents with the nightly zip
20:49:46 <Fallen> it works fine for a lot of users, but it seems somtimes it breaks. Is this on Linux?
20:49:55 <Widdershins> win7 x64
20:50:05 <Fallen> can you go back to the previous nightly to make sure its really fallout from upgrading?
20:50:14 <aleth> Widdershins: Is this extension on addons.instantbird.org?
20:50:15 <Fallen> oh 1.5
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20:50:22 <Widdershins> i went from 1.5 to the feb 8th nightly
20:50:30 <Fallen> can you confirm that going back to 1.5 fixes it?
20:50:34 <Widdershins> i think so but it's not like, approved
20:50:38 <Widdershins> yeah one sec let me check
20:51:03 <clokep_work> Widdershins: Why'd you drop a zip on top of your installation? That seems weird.
20:51:09 <clokep_work> Likely unrelated to your problem...but...
20:51:19 <Widdershins> seemed the easiest way to install it
20:51:24 <Widdershins> i moved the old folder contents out first
20:51:32 <Widdershins> it's not overwritten or mixed or anything
20:51:57 <clokep_work> Widdershins: Why didn't you just...install it?
20:52:02 <aleth> clokep_work: Linux.
20:52:05 <Widdershins> laziness mostly
20:52:18 <aleth> oh, you said Windows. my bad
20:52:21 <Widdershins> and not wanting to set up the extensions and settings again
20:52:40 <aleth> You can keep your profile folder and still install it normally
20:52:44 <Widdershins> mk
20:52:57 <Widdershins> let me try that
20:53:19 <clokep_work> Widdershins: Your profile is entirely unrelated to the install.
20:53:38 <Widdershins> k
20:59:44 <Widdershins> well this was plaguing me for over a day
21:00:01 <Widdershins> an uninstall and reinstall of the nightly repaired it
21:00:07 <aleth> :-)
21:01:37 <Widdershins> yeah that's bizarre
21:02:25 <Widdershins> well uh
21:02:36 <Widdershins> i'll let you know if it comes up again ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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21:02:50 * aleth still wonders if your extension is on addons.instantbird.org
21:02:59 <Widdershins> yeah i uploaded it there
21:03:06 <Widdershins> not sure if it's publicly visible though
21:03:15 <Widdershins> let me look
21:03:47 <aleth> Widders Sounds?
21:03:57 <aleth> You should request to make it public ;)
21:03:58 <Widdershins> yep there it is
21:05:58 <Widdershins> nominated
21:06:08 <aleth> Great, thanks
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21:10:13 <Widdershins> aleth: does that mean it'll show up in search at some point and I won't have to manually install it?
21:10:33 <aleth> Widdershins: Yes
21:10:36 <Widdershins> \o/
21:13:15 <Defman> Sup
21:14:48 <Defman> This man is a beast: https://github.com/alexsalas?tab=repositories
21:15:18 <Defman> Seems like he want to make probably all available protocols works in Instantbird
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21:22:22 <flo-retina> do we have a bug on file for the update issues?
21:22:35 <aleth> I don't think so
21:23:30 <flo-retina> alright, I'll explain my findings here then :-P
21:23:47 <flo-retina> The error message in the buildbot log is completely harmless, and is due to http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/diff/44aadcfb5f57/tools/update-packaging/Makefile.in
21:24:26 <flo-retina> I'm going to fix it by replacing "$(MAKE) -C tools/update-packaging full-update" at http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/build.mk#86 by "$(MAKE) -C tools/update-packaging complete-patch"
21:24:47 <flo-retina> and our buildbot logs show that we are correctly generating partial update files
21:24:57 <flo-retina> now I need to figure out why we upload junk instead of them
21:29:51 <clokep_work> AlexanderSalas: Hey we have a couple questions about the add-ons you've uploaded to AIO.
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21:31:47 <AlexanderSalas> ÷-ة اثقث
21:31:49 <AlexanderSalas> ups
21:31:51 <AlexanderSalas> I-m here
21:32:30 <clokep_work> AlexanderSalas: So we were loking at your gitter protocol...and it needlessly copies the entire irc.js file.
21:32:39 <clokep_work> Which is bad since it won't get updates if we make improvements to the IRC code
21:32:44 <AlexanderSalas> ok
21:33:04 <AlexanderSalas> you talk about the subscript
21:33:11 <AlexanderSalas> to use only 18 lines
21:33:15 <clokep_work> I think all you need to do is implement the prplIProtocol interface, and then tell it to create an ircAccount object.
21:34:06 <AlexanderSalas> ok
21:34:37 <AlexanderSalas> Gitter have a good api to use and improve the prpl
21:34:50 <aleth> AlexanderSalas: similar to what gtalk does (it uses XMPP like your addon uses IRC)
21:35:05 <AlexanderSalas> Yes
21:35:17 <AlexanderSalas> The prpl pur js is p18x
21:35:26 <AlexanderSalas> prpl-p18x
21:36:01 <AlexanderSalas> I lost my MODEM xD
21:36:01 <AlexanderSalas> I make more upgrades of the prpl, but I need other datacard xD
21:36:20 <AlexanderSalas> I have many others ideas to build prpls with pure JS 
21:37:05 <AlexanderSalas> I need fix the addons to register a command
21:37:09 <clokep_work> AlexanderSalas: I guess my point is that, it's great if you can add other features, but it concerns me that you're just copying and pasting code and rebranding.
21:37:17 <clokep_work> This can leave issues when we update the code in core.
21:37:48 <aleth> AlexanderSalas: clokep_work means there is a much simpler way to write it
21:37:49 <AlexanderSalas> Yes, we need force the version compatibility 
21:38:05 <aleth> You don't copy the code, you just call it.
21:38:11 <AlexanderSalas> ok
21:38:44 <AlexanderSalas> We need make examples
21:39:06 <aleth> As I said, gtalk is an example
21:39:25 <aleth> https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/gtalk/gtalk.js
21:39:30 <AlexanderSalas> the gtalk is an example to call the code of XMPP
21:39:32 <AlexanderSalas> ok
21:39:42 <aleth> So do the same for IRC.
21:39:57 <aleth> You probably just need something like this big https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/gtalk/gtalk.js#85
21:40:02 <aleth> s/big/bit
21:40:20 <clokep_work> aleth: It's slightly harder, irc.js isn't a module.
21:40:26 <clokep_work> And isn't fully designed to be subclassed.
21:42:46 <AlexanderSalas> Ok, we need to make effort to generate the subclass
21:42:52 <AlexanderSalas> and improve IRC
21:43:51 <aleth> you can probably just use Services.scriptloader.loadSubScript to include irc.js
21:47:35 <clokep_work> Yes.
21:47:48 <clokep_work> AlexanderSalas: If you have improvements to make to the IRC code, I'd love to see them.
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21:54:03 <clokep_work> I'd also like to see that other patch you started finished. :)
21:55:38 * clokep_work is unsure he can review bug 1131255
21:55:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1131255 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Use ICE connection state to better determine when a video call is successful
21:56:15 <aleth> It can be a followup anyway after we land the initial bug
21:58:37 <Fallen> hmm dom inspector is not working for me on nightly
21:58:57 <clokep_work> Fallen: I think aleth fixed that ^^?
21:59:01 <clokep_work> Did you upload a new version?
21:59:09 * clokep_work wonders what Fallen is fixing.
21:59:27 <clokep_work> Fallen: Oh!!! I was thinking about this on the chair lift earlier...whatever happened to the DNS SRV code you were working on?
21:59:31 <flo-retina> Reticulating splines…
21:59:42 <Fallen> clokep_work: well, it works :-)
21:59:50 <aleth> Fallen: I hotpatched DOM inspector, I can give you a copy if you like
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21:59:55 <Fallen> aleth: yes please
22:00:04 <clokep_work> aleth: Let's upload it to AIO?
22:00:07 <aleth> I haven't properly checked everything works yet though (or it would be on AIO)
22:00:12 <flo-retina> aleth: what was broken?
22:00:14 <clokep_work> Ahhhhh
22:00:18 <clokep_work> He didn't check. :P
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22:00:35 * flo-retina tends to just compile with --enable-debug --enable-extensions=inspector
22:00:43 <aleth> flo-retina: no idea, I just needed to use it quickly
22:01:00 <flo-retina> aleth: well, I assumed you knew what you had to patch :-D
22:01:03 <Fallen> clokep_work: about what I am fixing, I want to play with the mac vibrancy thing, and I can't get it to work for Lightning so I thought I'd try it for instantbird's chat participant list
22:01:05 <clokep_work> aleth: I'm gonna wait on that next one until the initial patch landed?
22:01:14 <clokep_work> Ah.
22:01:15 <aleth> clokep_work: ok
22:01:18 <clokep_work> I don't know what that is. :)
22:01:34 <Fallen> that half-transparent background thats new in yosemite
22:01:46 <clokep_work> Ah. I haven't updated to that yet.
22:01:53 <clokep_work> I've heard it's fairly broken.
22:02:31 <flo-retina> sounds like aero glass ;)
22:02:33 <Fallen> works well enoughf or me :-)
22:02:34 <Fallen> https://developer.apple.com/library/mac/documentation/Foundation/Reference/NSVisualEffectView_Class/Art/main_article_2x.png
22:02:41 <Fallen> yeah, like aero glass :-)
22:02:47 <flo-retina> Apple added it just when MS removed it in Windows 8 :-D
22:03:01 <clokep_work> flo-retina: So it'll disappear in the next version? ;)
22:03:14 <flo-retina> Fallen: could be nice in the participants list indeed
22:03:56 <aleth> nhnt11 was going to look into yosemiting IB at one point...
22:04:07 <clokep_work> After he finishes fixing gloda.
22:04:11 * nhnt11 sighs
22:04:13 * clokep_work pokes nhnt11
22:04:17 <nhnt11> Gloda makes me procrastinate :(
22:04:24 <nhnt11> thinking about gloda*
22:04:24 <clokep_work> nhnt11: Can we help you finish it up?
22:04:28 <clokep_work> We're all right here right now. :)
22:04:33 <clokep_work> If there's anything you need we can help!
22:04:49 <clokep_work> Rants are allowed.
22:04:58 <nhnt11> that should help :)
22:05:29 <aleth> gloda sounds like some evil supercomputer from a game?
22:07:08 * nhnt11 opens his code editor and cracks his knuckles
22:07:33 <aleth> oh, that was glados
22:10:09 <Fallen> it just won't damn glow!
22:11:55 <Fallen> oh wait, it is glowing
22:12:58 <aleth> :)
22:13:23 <clokep_work> Put your radiation suits on!
22:15:34 <clokep_work> Hmm...is Skype just the packaging changes? :)
22:15:38 <Fallen> its just veeeery subtle. https://www.dropbox.com/s/haitf1je454z1m7/Screenshot%202015-02-14%2023.15.21.png?dl=0
22:15:54 <aleth> clokep_work: yup
22:16:38 <clokep_work> aleth, flo-retina: Do we care about getting someone to review package-manfiest.in changes for TB for SKype?
22:16:46 * clokep_work votes no.
22:17:11 <aleth> Didn't you want flo to r the whole thing at some point?
22:17:28 <clokep_work> Oh, right.
22:17:29 <clokep_work> That too.
22:17:34 <clokep_work> I'll upload a new patch soon
22:18:51 <nhnt11> Fallen: That looks really nice! :)
22:18:52 <aleth> You don't need me to review the packaging at any rate.
22:19:26 <aleth> Fallen: Looks good actually, now it's just the top part of the window that looks wrong...
22:19:34 <clokep_work> aleth: Rgr I'll just upload a new patch and r+ it from you.
22:20:03 <aleth> Fallen: are you going to turn that into a patch? :)
22:20:09 <nhnt11> Fallen: Are you going to upload a patch?
22:20:13 <nhnt11> uh, what aleth said :P
22:20:26 <clokep_work> Fallen: You have a *lot* of channels open.
22:20:29 <clokep_work> Do you not put things on hold? :)
22:20:56 <Fallen> clokep_work: you should see my on hold list :-P
22:21:08 <aleth> Fallen is stress-testing IB ;)
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22:21:32 <clokep_work> :)
22:21:45 <Fallen> aleth: what do you want the top part to look like?
22:22:14 <nhnt11> Fallen: Australis :]
22:22:54 <aleth> Fallen: there's the transparent title bar stuff to port from Fx for example
22:22:55 <Widdershins> Is there a setting in the nightly that changes the behavior of the notification the other party is typing?
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22:23:32 <Fallen> aleth: ah ok, so nothing for me to add in the patch for the chat list, just general things you want fixed? :)
22:23:55 <clokep_work> Widdershins: Changes it to what?
22:23:59 <clokep_work> (The answer is liekly no though. :P)
22:24:37 <aleth> Fallen: Right, I was just thinking of other Yosemitey changes
22:24:56 <Widdershins> clokep_work: it's covering up the lowest line of text; it used to show in the same style as the chat itself
22:25:10 <Widdershins> http://puu.sh/fViO1/993c58c6da.png
22:25:37 <aleth> Widdershins: if you move the mouse over it it will move
22:26:08 <aleth> You can turn off showing the notifications though if you like, in Preferences.
22:26:45 <clokep_work> Hmm...I wonder if that's a bug anyway.
22:27:12 <Widdershins> it used to show in grey text in the same style as the "1 hour since they last talked" text, but over on the left iirc
22:27:20 <Widdershins> and just bump up the chat
22:28:03 <clokep_work> No, it used to be in the statusbar.
22:28:28 <Widdershins> ah, right
22:28:30 <Widdershins> which is removed
22:28:48 <clokep_work> Yep.
22:28:53 <Widdershins> i don't see an option to not show them
22:28:57 * clokep_work sighs and clobbers.
22:29:01 <Fallen> any other places I should enable the vibrancy?
22:29:03 <Widdershins> like it would be fine because the icon in the tab header already shows it
22:29:22 <Widdershins> but i don't see that option, only an option to not broadcast your own typing status
22:29:31 <clokep_work> aleth: I think you can only disable sending of typing notifications, not showing them in the UI.
22:29:37 <Widdershins> yeah
22:29:40 <clokep_work> Widdershins: Yeah I don't think it exists.
22:29:51 <aleth> clokep_work, Widdershins: that seems like there should be at least a hidden pref
22:29:51 <clokep_work> But as I said above, I think it is non-ideal that it covers the text.
22:29:55 <clokep_work> And we should likely fix it.
22:30:00 <clokep_work> Really?
22:30:01 <clokep_work> I don't think so
22:30:15 <Widdershins> i haven't been able to find it in config either
22:30:44 <Fallen> aleth: vibrancy in the main window contact list?
22:30:53 <aleth> Fallen: hmm.. worth a try?
22:31:06 <nhnt11> Fallen: I think that would look kinda bad
22:31:26 <nhnt11> But maybe..
22:31:53 <aleth> Fallen: The different shades of grey in the contact list also don't look very yosemite
22:31:58 <nhnt11> It would be cool if the header of the blist window was "vibrant" and you could see your contacts behind it as you scroll up
22:32:08 <Fallen> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ryugpvzzueciubk/Screenshot%202015-02-14%2023.31.55.png?dl=0
22:32:14 <nhnt11> "in window blending"
22:32:29 <clokep_work> reticulating splines...
22:32:38 <Fallen> I wish it were more...vibrant...at least in the chat list
22:32:44 * clokep_work thinks Fallen would like FileLink in iB right now. :P
22:33:07 * clokep_work 's jaw drops.
22:33:15 <clokep_work> Fallen is actually in an & channel.
22:33:28 <Fallen> clokep_work: thats not on irc.m.o
22:33:57 <Fallen> its my irc-to-jabber gateway so I can use my bouncer for work jabber
22:34:28 <clokep_work> Yeah I figured.
22:34:32 <aleth> Fallen: maybe bug 1100380 has something you can use for the top part of the contact list?
22:34:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100380 nor, --, Thunderbird 36.0, josiah, RESO FIXED, [10.10] Use vibrancy in the tabbar and address tabbar styling issues in Yosemite.
22:34:37 <clokep_work> Just found it amusing. :)
22:35:04 <Fallen> ooh I should try it on the default background
22:36:29 <Fallen> https://www.dropbox.com/s/1lsxhl1ao82o5a9/Screenshot%202015-02-14%2023.36.19.png?dl=0
22:37:05 * nhnt11 likes it
22:37:07 * aleth likes the vibrant participant list
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22:38:39 * aleth has got an unread ruler showing up in TB now
22:38:54 <aleth> just removing it still needs some code :P
22:39:39 * flo-retina wonders why that blurred transparency looks cool when it's done by Apple, whereas it looked like showing off one's graphics card when Vista did it.
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22:40:03 <clokep_work> I liked it in Windows. I was sad they removed it.
22:40:14 <aleth> You can tell they spent a *lot* of time tweaking it so it doesn't make things illegible.
22:40:39 <Fallen> vibrant chat list. too much? https://www.dropbox.com/s/q829xn81n1p2a7d/Screenshot%202015-02-14%2023.40.22.png?dl=0
22:40:44 <Fallen> err contact list
22:41:01 <nhnt11> flo-retina: In Vista it was excessively flashy
22:41:15 <nhnt11> There were little shiny "reflections" that moved as you moved the window
22:41:18 <nhnt11> and stuff
22:41:44 <aleth> Fallen: I think it's an improvement, but the grey in the Conv on hold/Contacts bar now looks even wronger
22:42:03 <aleth> It should probably match the grey behind the display name
22:43:42 <aleth> Anyway, ultimately I guess it's the kind of thing to try in nightlies for a bit and see if it is annoying or not.
22:44:45 <clokep_work> Who's mentoring bug 1133199? :)
22:44:47 <aleth> Fallen: or do you think it would be better for the display name background & title bar to be vibrant and the rest to remain more or less as is?
22:44:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1133199 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Message encoding is not valid on Netsoul
22:45:35 <Fallen> yeah that might make more sense
22:46:18 <clokep_work> Bleh, I should probably look at bug 1098312 	 / bug 964828
22:46:21 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1098312 nor, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Port MSN application ID changes to allow MSN to connect again
22:46:22 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=964828 maj, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Update libpurple up to 2.10.11
22:46:24 <clokep_work> But those are so *not exciting*
22:46:25 <aleth> Fallen: I'm not sure as it might make the user icon look strange. Hard to predict though
22:47:06 <aleth> clokep_work: neither is wiresharking gtalk I guess?
22:47:31 <Fallen> https://www.dropbox.com/s/0ibnw7lkdy7mc6i/Screenshot%202015-02-14%2023.47.15.png?dl=0
22:47:51 <Fallen> might need a border around those headers now
22:48:10 <clokep_work> aleth: Ahhhh, that's something I should do! :)
22:48:25 * aleth wonders what paenglab did to the title bar
22:48:37 <aleth> s/paenglab/josiahone
22:49:30 <Fallen> Hmm I can't seem to set a border when its vibrant
22:49:59 <aleth> Fallen: have you tried #titlebar { -moz-appearance: -moz-mac-vibrancy-light !important; } or does that require Australis?
22:50:51 <Fallen> I don't see #titlebar in the DOM
22:51:27 <aleth> It's in JosiahOne's patch, but I guess that means it requires some other patches
22:53:19 <flo-retina> for some reason the list of files we upload is the one defined in http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mozilla/toolkit/mozapps/installer/upload-files.mk rather than the one we define at http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/build.mk#38
22:53:51 <clokep_work> (o_O) Interesting.
22:55:43 <Fallen> aleth: there is a bunch of code to draw the tabs in the titlebar, I believe the vibrancy only works with that: http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/base/content/msgMail3PaneWindow.js#1699
22:56:45 <aleth> Fallen: right, looks like it's tied in to the changes for Australis then
22:56:50 <flo-retina> it's included from http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/Makefile.in#138
22:57:02 <flo-retina> which happens after http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/Makefile.in#19
22:57:34 <aleth> flo-retina: didn't one of jcranmer's patches change what topsrcdir points at?
22:58:10 <Fallen> aleth: can't use vibrancy in the main contact list, the section headers are flickering
22:58:39 <Fallen> I'm just going to add it to the chat list for now
22:58:49 <aleth> Fallen: ok, thanks!
22:59:10 <flo-retina> aleth: ok, now I'm sure that it's http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/c0efa7f1e54c that's breaking our partial updates
22:59:43 <aleth> ah, that's where that line came from then
23:00:03 <flo-retina> I already have an idea for a possible hack
23:00:33 <aleth> flo-retina: but did they really break already in May? :-S
23:00:46 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Do we need a hack or just to port something?
23:00:52 <flo-retina> aleth: wasn't it in december?
23:01:05 <aleth> flo-retina: right. that changeset is from May though
23:01:09 <flo-retina> clokep_work: there's nothing to port
23:01:18 <flo-retina> clokep_work: they use a significantly different infra
23:01:23 <Fallen> who wants to review?
23:01:26 <flo-retina> and don't upload in the same way as we do
23:01:31 * nhnt11 volunteers 
23:01:33 <nhnt11> Fallen: ^
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23:01:47 <flo-retina> looks like nhnt11 has found a good way to procrastinate looking at gloda ;)
23:01:51 <nhnt11> :]
23:01:56 <clokep_work> aleth: Do we have any idea what version of TB/IB supports: SASL and multi-prefix?
23:01:59 <Fallen> its a one line change, anyway :-P
23:02:39 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 1133258 filed by philipp@bugzilla.kewis.ch.
23:02:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1133258 nor, --, ---, philipp, ASSI, Add vibrancy to conversation nicklist
23:02:46 <flo-retina> aleth: it's possible that the upload rule in upload-files.mk somehow worked
23:02:47 <flo-retina> for us
23:03:44 <aleth> clokep_work: not without some research
23:04:07 <clokep_work> SASL since 1.3.
23:04:14 <clokep_work> I'm trying to find the multi-prefix stuff now...
23:04:24 <flo-retina> aleth: well, it's http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/9cc41324a5e1 that _actually_ broke us
23:04:38 <aleth> flo-retina: aha!
23:05:33 <Fallen> patch is up :)
23:05:49 <clokep_work> Fallen: Will that affect people not on Yosemite?
23:06:06 <Fallen> clokep_work: I think its just a no-op on non-yosemite
23:07:37 <flo-retina> aleth: proposed patch: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1176536
23:07:43 * nhnt11 supposes someone on pre-Yosemite can try and see
23:08:31 * aleth commented on the bug
23:09:48 <flo-retina> so, who wants to review my hack? :)
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23:10:48 <aleth> flo-retina: when does app-rules.mk run?
23:10:56 <nhnt11> Fallen: Are you still using a local repo of the Instantbird source from before we moved to c-c?
23:11:34 <nhnt11> Your patch won't apply because it's trying to patch instantbird/themes/conversation.css (should be im/themes...)
23:11:48 <flo-retina> aleth: significantly later
23:12:09 * aleth didn't know about that file
23:12:17 <flo-retina> aleth: it didn't exist
23:12:25 <aleth> I can see that.
23:12:30 <aleth> I didn't know it /could/ exist ;)
23:12:54 <flo-retina> here's how I debugged it: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1176537
23:12:56 <aleth> flo-retina: r=me, looks sane to me
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23:13:08 <flo-retina> that conveniently lists the processed makefiles and in which order they are read
23:13:21 <clokep_work> aleth: If you're interested, SASL was IB 1.3/TB 19; NAMESX/multi-prefix is IB 1.4/TB 21.
23:13:33 <aleth> flo-retina: nice trick!
23:13:36 <flo-retina> app-rules.mk is the only file in im/ read after upload-files.mk
23:13:41 <flo-retina> so we don't have much choice...
23:14:10 <flo-retina> aleth: so I guess now I've got to file a bug to explain all of this? :-/
23:14:10 <aleth> yup
23:14:21 <aleth> I guess so, for future breakage...
23:14:55 <flo-retina> yeah, for when someone will look at the blame and wonder why we added that crazy hack
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23:15:16 <Fallen> nhnt11: it seems so. I found that on hg.instantbird.org and I thought I read a recent commit date. Or was it exactly a year ago?
23:15:19 <flo-retina> it's a bit sad that it's been broken for 2 months and no bug got file :-/
23:15:21 <flo-retina> *filed
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23:16:30 <nhnt11> Probably a year ago :)
23:16:41 <aleth> flo-retina: put "UPLOAD_CMD='echo $(UPLOAD_FILES)' make -d upload" in the bug too
23:17:22 <flo-retina> isn't that straight forward? ;)
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23:20:00 <aleth> flo-retina: it is once you get the idea, might save some time if it's in there though ;)
23:20:03 <clokep_work> Fallen: Shame since you likely already had c-c pulled. :P
23:20:26 <Fallen> it would have been so much easier :-) Why don't you remove that repo?
23:20:47 <clokep_work> Fallen: I think the #1 reason right now...we haven't released off c-c yet.
23:21:03 <flo-retina> Fallen: it probably needs to stay there for history
23:21:25 <flo-retina> Fallen: we could probably get the webview of that repo to show a bug "OBSOLETE" warning though
23:22:11 <clokep_work> big bug bog
23:23:04 <flo-retina> oh well
23:25:32 <clokep_work> aleth: https://github.com/ircv3/ircv3-specifications/pull/110
23:26:02 <aleth> clokep_work: ah, nice! That's what you needed it for :-)
23:26:09 <clokep_work> Yes. ;)
23:26:22 <flo-retina> what's that build failure in bug 1133199?
23:26:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1133199 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Message encoding is not valid on Netsoul
23:26:41 <aleth> idk, current tree builds ok for me.
23:26:48 <clokep_work> I just did a clobber, built OK.
23:26:58 <clokep_work> Did he clone purple?
23:27:02 <flo-retina> I would guess neither of you tried on linux
23:27:07 <flo-retina> clokep_work: yes, obviously he did
23:27:15 <clokep_work> I did read it. Sorry. :-\
23:27:17 <clokep_work> Nope.
23:27:18 <clokep_work> Mac.
23:27:46 <flo-retina> "No rule to make target`../../../../extensions/purple/libpurple/libpurple.a', needed by`libpurplexpcom.so'.  Stop." surprises me
23:27:59 <clokep_work> Hmm...
23:28:05 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Could this be an issue with debug builds?
23:28:10 <clokep_work> Is it dying when trying to build the null prpl?
23:28:17 <flo-retina> I'm tempted to just tell him to |make -C obj/mozilla/extensions/purple/libpurple/| and then try again
23:28:28 <flo-retina> clokep_work: dying on SIPE
23:28:44 <clokep_work> Yeah, well that counts too. I mean something that's a static prpl.
23:28:49 <clokep_work> Uhhh dynamic.
23:28:49 <clokep_work> Not static.
23:28:52 <flo-retina> ah, yes, could be dynamic prpls broken on debug builds
23:29:08 <aleth> suggest not building a debug build?
23:29:17 <clokep_work> dynamic prpls broke on debug builds on Linux, even. :-\
23:29:22 <flo-retina> so I guess we should teach im to remove bonjour, sipe and null from the list of prpls?
23:29:37 <clokep_work> Maybeeee...
23:29:41 * flo-retina thinks we should have debug builds on buildbot
23:29:46 <clokep_work> Asking him to make again might make more sense.
23:29:50 <clokep_work> We should.
23:30:02 <flo-retina> well, if it's broken, just making again is not going to help :(
23:30:10 <clokep_work> Yeah.
23:30:13 <flo-retina> aleth: "suggest not building a debug build?" I think he actually wants to debug stuff
23:30:17 <aleth> sudo make! ;)
23:31:05 <clokep_work> Noooooooooo
23:33:19 <Fallen> nhnt11: new patch up
23:34:43 <nhnt11> Fallen: Thanks. It works fine on my local build :)
23:34:57 <Fallen> great!
23:35:54 * clokep_work is trying to get a clean wireshark capture.
23:36:37 <clokep_work> We should finalize what's on https://etherpad.mozilla.org/ib-gsoc-2015 to get it onto the wiki page.
23:36:52 <clokep_work> We need to: finalize projects, finalize mentors, ensure we have *something* exciting to work on.
23:38:03 <nhnt11> Fallen: fwiw that @media query that aleth suggested is used in c-c: https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/search?q=%22-moz-mac-yosemite-theme%22
23:38:19 <Fallen> nhnt11: yes, but not everywhere that the vibrancy thing is
23:38:29 <nhnt11> But if you're sure it's a no-op, I'm ok with it :)
23:38:32 <nhnt11> right
23:39:12 <aleth> Fallen: But does it fall back to a value of 'none' or does the moz-appearance line just get ignored?
23:39:31 <Fallen> I'm not exactly sure, since I don't have an older osx to test...maybe clokep_work can try it?
23:39:43 <clokep_work> aleth: I'll try to get that capture later. I need to like shut all other programs down.
23:40:12 * nhnt11 can't find documentation on -moz-mac-vibrancy-light
23:40:23 <aleth> I'd rather not break things on OSX <10.10
23:40:35 <clokep_work> I think listing fixing up the XMPP prpl and adding a new prpl are both worth listing.
23:40:38 <clokep_work> I'd like to see SIP, Bonjour or OSCAR.
23:40:41 <clokep_work> Not just random ones.
23:40:49 <Fallen> agreed
23:40:56 <clokep_work> Fallen: What am I testing?
23:41:01 <clokep_work> We also listed the single window UI last year.
23:41:04 <aleth> XMPP is definitely worthwhile and can be taken in an "improve voice/video chat" direction too
23:41:06 <clokep_work> But I think we thought that that's too vague.
23:41:13 <aleth> Let's not list that.
23:41:41 <Fallen> clokep_work: open dom inspector, navigate to the conversation nicklist, add style="-moz-appearance: -moz-mac-vibrancy-light;"
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23:41:51 <Fallen> see if it breaks the nicklist
23:41:57 <aleth> clokep_work: are you still on 10.9?
23:42:12 <aleth> good to know.
23:42:15 <nhnt11> Hint: if the background changes to white instead of grey, it's broken ;)
23:42:26 <Fallen> white?
23:42:28 <Fallen> where?
23:42:50 <nhnt11> Fallen: removing -moz-appearance: none; changed the nicklist background to white for me
23:43:07 <Fallen> ah ok
23:43:34 <Fallen> if in doubt we can just wrap it in a such block
23:43:44 <Fallen> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8564620 this is what Lightning will look like
23:44:29 <aleth> Fallen: nicely done!
23:44:45 <aleth> Fallen: right, let's just add the media tag and not worry about it.
23:44:54 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Other bug 1133263 filed by florian@queze.net.
23:44:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1133263 maj, --, ---, florian, NEW, Partial updates broken since december
23:45:19 * flo-retina shrugs
23:45:36 <flo-retina> I put the tab on hold by pressing escape to try to close the findbar :-S
23:45:36 <clokep_work> aleth: Where's this fixed DOMi. ;)
23:45:38 <flo-retina> can't reproduce
23:46:51 <aleth> clokep_work: I guess I should move finishing that up my todo list then ;)
23:47:37 <clokep_work> I can just rebuild with the inspector, I guess.
23:48:01 <Fallen> clokep_work: don't worry, I'll just add the media query thing
23:48:51 <Fallen> ok, new patch up
23:49:02 <clokep_work> Fallen: Sorry. :(
23:49:28 <Fallen> no need to feel sorry! Its probably safer this way anyway
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23:52:15 <clokep_work> Fallen: Looks OK.
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23:52:54 <clokep_work> So anymore thoughts on GSoC?
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23:54:24 <instantbot> florian@queze.net changed the Resolution on bug 1133263 from --- to FIXED.
23:54:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1133263 maj, --, ---, florian, RESO FIXED, Partial updates broken since december
23:54:37 <flo-retina> is it the first Ib bug I fix in 2015?
23:54:46 <flo-retina> feels like I haven't contributed in a looong time :-S.
23:55:00 <flo-retina> clokep_work: sorry, I was still busy with that update bug
23:55:28 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Likely! Congrats. :)
23:55:31 * clokep_work gives flo-retina a gold star
23:56:08 <nhnt11> Nightlies should kick off in a few hours right?
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23:56:22 <clokep_work> Yes.
23:56:33 <flo-retina> nhnt11: in 3 hours
23:56:44 * nhnt11 pushes the vibrancy thing
23:56:46 <flo-retina> they are scheduled to start at 4:10am French time
23:59:34 <Fallen> wow the draw in titlebar code is fugly. that sort of thing should be in toolkit somewhere.