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They were both from India. 09:49:46 <EionRobb> weird 09:50:56 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 09:58:09 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 09:59:00 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 10:02:00 <Fallen> flo-retina: sounds good. There are a few folks "maintaining" it. I was thinking of taking it under my thumb and gathering the folks that are doing so 10:05:02 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:06:07 <flo-retina> :) 10:08:25 --> bernard has joined #instantbird 10:09:00 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 10:11:58 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 10:22:53 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 10:29:34 --> kapy_ has joined #instantbird 10:31:17 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 10:31:30 <-- kapy has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:32:06 --> kapy has joined #instantbird 10:34:43 <-- kapy_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:35:45 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:44:00 --> bernard1 has joined #instantbird 10:46:58 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 10:47:01 <-- bernard has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:56:19 <DGMurdockIII> i really want a communty thunty build 10:56:26 <DGMurdockIII> thunderbird 10:56:40 <DGMurdockIII> with lightning built in 11:00:40 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Connection closed) 11:01:57 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 11:01:58 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 11:24:46 <-- panther7 has quit (Quit: bye) 11:27:59 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:28:00 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:28:02 --> Nazadel has joined #instantbird 11:32:04 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 11:36:31 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:51:54 <-- sawrubh has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 12:11:19 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:11:26 --> bernard has joined #instantbird 12:12:02 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 12:12:02 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 12:13:42 <-- bernard1 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:18:10 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited) 12:22:05 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 12:22:05 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt12 12:23:25 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:23:25 * nhnt12 is now known as nhnt11 12:32:50 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 12:36:52 <-- kapy has quit (Connection closed) 12:37:16 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:41:25 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:41:25 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 12:47:40 --> BillBinkley has joined #instantbird 12:53:57 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:53:57 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:54:00 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:04:11 --> kapy has joined #instantbird 13:08:31 <-- kapy has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:11:44 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:30:30 * clokep starts a clobber build. 13:33:35 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 13:35:22 * MattATobin is now known as Tobin 13:38:04 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:39:54 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 13:41:45 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 13:48:20 --> sherief has joined #instantbird 13:56:54 <flo-retina> aleth: I think that user who emailed contact@ wants the last few messages to reappear when re-opening a conversation 13:57:22 <clokep> aleth: Or maybe offline messages? 13:58:12 --> kapy has joined #instantbird 13:58:14 <aleth> flo-retina: Yes, that's likely. 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(Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:45:40 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 19:47:11 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 19:47:11 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 19:49:41 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 20:01:13 --> Mnyromyr has joined #instantbird 20:04:12 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 20:09:58 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 20:27:15 <clokep_work> aleth: Your comments in bug 953999 are confusing me. :-\ 20:27:18 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=953999 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Skype protocol plugin 20:27:47 <aleth> Which ones? 20:28:15 <-- BillBinkley has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:28:32 <clokep_work> Comment 16 points out that you can't directly set displayName, comment 18 seems to ask why we're not setting display name. 20:28:53 <clokep_work> Pretty much it seems though that Skype hsa more "name" fields than we can do anything with. 20:29:06 <aleth> No, comment 18 asks you to check that it's not skypeContact.display_name as opposed o skypeContact.displayname. 20:30:02 <aleth> But yeah, it seems Skype has a lot of fields there and the best we could do is stick them in the tooltip. 20:31:35 <clokep_work> Ahhhh...I think it would help if you used full sentences for some of your comments. I don't get sometimes when it's just "foobar?"... 20:32:09 <EionRobb> wow, yeah, I totally didn't get that as what you were saying either 20:32:16 <aleth> Sorry about that, I was probably trying to be too quick... 20:33:20 <clokep_work> Hm...I wouldn't be surprised if the API just returns displayname one place and display_name somewhere else. :-D 20:33:56 <EionRobb> that's exactly what it does :) 20:34:00 <clokep_work> Yeah so the previous version of the patch also has "displayname" when looking at that API endpoint. 20:34:04 <clokep_work> Yep. 20:34:37 <aleth> Heh, who needs consistency... that would be boring ;) 20:39:01 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 20:43:27 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:46:34 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 20:59:38 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:59:54 <clokep> aleth: So how are WebRTC things looking? Is it mostly just XMPP issues at this point or...? 21:00:19 <aleth> No, the XMPP stuff is working fine. 21:00:44 <clokep> I saw you asking Mook something about stack and decks? 21:00:47 <clokep> Is the UI having issues? 21:00:53 * clokep isn't sure of the status of that stuff. 21:00:54 <aleth> Yeah, that's the main problem I have left. 21:00:58 <clokep> :) 21:01:21 --> myk has joined #instantbird 21:01:25 <aleth> I might tidy up first and attach a new patch anyway. 21:01:51 <-- sawrubh has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 21:04:30 --> mudpit1 has joined #instantbird 21:06:01 <-- mudpit has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:06:01 * mudpit1 is now known as mudpit 21:11:42 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Other bug 1128679 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 21:11:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1128679 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Debug log tab entries suppress whitespace 21:13:14 --> bernard has joined #instantbird 21:39:47 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 21:44:13 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:13:59 <-- AlexanderSalas has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:16:20 <-- Defman has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 22:21:12 --> nhnt12 has joined #instantbird 22:21:12 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt12 22:22:18 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:22:19 * nhnt12 is now known as nhnt11 22:27:32 <-- bernard has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 22:29:04 <clokep> aleth: any ideas for a pref name for disabling skype? 22:29:17 <clokep> arlolra: Sorry I haven't given you feedback yet. :( I have a half done review on my other computer... 22:29:46 <arlolra> clokep: np. I was away the past weeks anyways 22:29:51 <aleth> clokep: chat.prpls.enableSkype? 22:30:12 <clokep> Do we use chat or messenger for prefs? :-S 22:30:23 <clokep> messenger is IB, chat is shared? 22:31:35 <aleth> I'm not sure that's true 22:31:49 <aleth> But I don't know if there's any consistent pattern to it either 22:33:22 <clokep> Hm OK. 22:33:27 <clokep> aleth: Separate bug you think? 22:33:53 * clokep is leaning that way. 22:33:56 <aleth> clokep: If you prefer. 22:40:32 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 22:42:01 <clokep_work> Is there a way to check if a pref exists. 22:42:11 <clokep_work> (Not prefHasUserValue, which seems to check against if the user has modified it...) 22:42:42 <aleth> I don't think so. 22:42:57 <aleth> Try to get the value and see if it throws? 22:43:02 <clokep_work> It does. :) 22:43:39 <clokep_work> Meh... http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/modules/jsProtoHelper.jsm#211 doesn't help much 22:44:37 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:44:57 <Mook_as> clokep_work: check its type 22:44:57 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:45:18 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Ah-ha! PREF_INVALID. 22:45:19 <clokep_work> Thanks. :) 22:45:26 <Mook_as> You're welcome. 22:46:12 <Mook_as> (Even without that, the overkill way would be to get child list of its parent and see if it shows up... but that's a horrible answer) 22:46:12 <aleth> Good to know! 22:46:23 <clokep_work> Yes. I was about to write the code to do a child list. :) 22:46:23 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: Leaving) 22:50:58 <flo-retina> right, invalid is the correct answer :) 22:52:30 * clokep_work is getting confused about logging in Python/JavaScript/Java. :( 22:58:47 <instantbot> New Chat Core - General bug 1128736 filed by clokep@gmail.com. 22:58:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1128736 enh, --, ---, clokep, ASSI, Add a way to pref off prpls. 22:58:54 <clokep> instantbot: botsnack 22:58:55 <instantbot> yay 22:59:33 <aleth> clokep: You're probably writing it that way anyway, but it could be useful to make that generic, not just for skype (like the forcePrpl pref) 23:00:46 <clokep> aleth: Read the patch. ;) 23:00:52 <clokep> But yes, that's what I did. 23:00:56 <clokep> I did it a different way though. 23:01:04 <clokep> Because I think it makes setting defualt prefs saner. 23:03:41 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 23:04:12 <clokep> Btw don't cancel flo's review if you review it, I want him to at least look at the pref name and say it's OK. 23:07:23 <flo-retina> first r- of the day ;) 23:09:22 <flo-retina> the r- is for the !invalid check instead of a bool check. The rest can be discussed :). 23:09:26 <flo-retina> although I'm going to bed 23:10:05 <clokep> flo-retina: I did that on purpose. 23:10:17 <clokep> Although maybe the second part would throw. 23:10:22 <clokep> I didn't think that through hmm... 23:10:38 * clokep was htinking it'd make it work with ints too. 23:11:39 <Mook_as> Only if FUEL was still a thing :| 23:13:02 <Mook_as> Bikeshed, please ignore: chat.prpls.<name>.disable -> bool ? (So that other prpl-specific prefs can go there) 23:13:20 <flo-retina> clokep: I think if we ever tell a user on IRC to create that pref and set it to true, if he creates a string pref set to "true", his Ib won't startup anymore (throwing in the startup path is _bad_ ;)) 23:13:24 <Mook_as> Though most current prefs seem to be <thingy>.enabled instead. 23:13:36 <clokep> flo-retina: Yeah, I already said it was wrong... 23:14:02 <flo-retina> Mook_as: hmm, there are already pref branches for prpl specific prefs 23:14:17 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 23:14:26 <flo-retina> plugins.prpl.* :( 23:14:59 <Mook_as> Ah. Use those, then? 23:15:15 <flo-retina> well, starting with "plugins" seems wrong 23:15:25 <Mook_as> I mean, other than the fact that it's horrible namespacing... yeah. 23:15:25 <flo-retina> we have the libpurple prefs there 23:15:33 <flo-retina> but I don't think we should impose that silly name on Thunderbird 23:16:14 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Putting the name first before disable sounds reasonable, yes. 23:16:32 <flo-retina> I think I would just do chat.prpls.disabled and a comma separated list 23:16:32 <instantbot> New Chat Core - XMPP bug 1128741 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 23:16:34 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1128741 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Improve XMPP stanza and error handling 23:16:42 <flo-retina> or chat.prpls.disable 23:16:47 <clokep_work> flo-retina: But then we can't update what we send if the user changes it. 23:16:54 <clokep_work> That's why I don't like that. 23:17:07 <flo-retina> ah 23:17:18 <clokep_work> I realized this the other day. 23:17:57 <flo-retina> we can rename the pref each time we change its default value :-D 23:18:00 <clokep_work> If someone customizes it to enable something...we still want to be able to disable the next thing. 23:18:03 <flo-retina> like we do for localizable strings ;) 23:18:15 <clokep_work> I hope you're joking. :P 23:18:25 <flo-retina> only half kidding 23:18:27 * clokep_work assumes you are. ;) 23:18:51 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Also we don't use that on start-up. 23:18:51 <flo-retina> well, I'm kinda assuming you want this disabling to be very temporary, and only for nightlies 23:19:20 <flo-retina> even on new profiles? 23:19:37 <clokep_work> It happens when you click "next" on the new account wizard. 23:19:47 <flo-retina> alright 23:20:11 <flo-retina> is loading the prpl for existing accounts really intentional? 23:20:17 <flo-retina> what's the reason for disabling a prpl? 23:20:29 <flo-retina> maybe it has a security issue and you want to turn that piece of code off? 23:21:07 <clokep_work> It really is intentional, yes. 23:21:27 <clokep_work> Wouldn't you just fix it then? 23:21:36 <clokep_work> You'd ahve to ship a new version either way. 23:21:37 <flo-retina> if you are a user? 23:22:04 <clokep_work> Disable it from connecting automatically? 23:22:09 <clokep_work> I don't know. 23:23:11 <flo-retina> I guess you approach of creating a pref for each prpl means we don't ship default values so users are less likely to flip it in about:config 23:23:14 <flo-retina> *your 23:23:48 <clokep_work> That seems to be the way things are done now. 23:24:15 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: Leaving) 23:24:31 <clokep_work> Go to bed, we can talk tomorrow. :) 23:36:56 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 23:36:57 * ChanServ sets mode +h nhnt11 23:41:21 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 23:45:24 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:45:45 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)