#instantbird log on 01 22 2015

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00:48:17 <clokep> EionRobb: https://github.com/EionRobb/PHP-DotNet-Bridge WTF (o_O) WHY?
00:48:58 <EionRobb> :D
00:49:01 <EionRobb> its for work
00:49:28 <clokep> Oh, OK.
00:49:32 <EionRobb> we have a .net lib that we need to use to talk to an accounting system api and have to do it via php
00:49:32 <clokep> 'You don't want to see the things I do for wokr hah.
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00:49:48 <clokep> clokep_work: Go home.
00:51:03 <clokep_work> aleth: Was "Do some stuff to start some stuff." not a clear comment? :-S :P
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01:44:49 <clokep> EionRobb: Was that announced somewhere? (The shutoff of the Facebook XMPP interface?)
01:46:31 <EionRobb> yes
01:48:04 <clokep> Huh, that's unfortunately.
01:48:08 <clokep> Um, unfortunate.
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01:52:16 <EionRobb> http://eion.robbmob.com/blog/2014/05/14/facebook-to-shut-down-their-xmpp-service/ there you go :)
01:53:54 <clokep> Thanks!
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02:58:13 <AlexanderSalas> With this we can make the new prpl for facebook
02:58:13 <AlexanderSalas> https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v2.2/user/inbox
02:58:13 <AlexanderSalas> https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v2.2/message
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04:45:50 <instant-buildbot> build #1609 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1609
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09:19:46 <instant-buildbot> build #193 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/193
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10:29:48 <aleth> nhnt11: http://andregarzia.com/posts/en/whatsappdoesntunderstandtheweb/
10:29:57 <nhnt11> aleth: Saw that
10:30:01 <nhnt11> I agree with most of it
10:30:10 <nhnt11> but I'll take it, it's something.
10:30:43 <aleth> expectations are so low these days...
10:31:03 <nhnt11> :]
10:31:39 <Nazadel> Oh man, is this serious?
10:32:43 <nhnt11> aleth: I believe the reason for all the weirdness with keeping your phone on is because WhatsApp does not store messages on their servers
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11:20:30 <Fallen> I don't care about old messages on the web client, I usually just want to send messages there
11:21:46 <Fallen> if they would at least make it optional to bind to the mobile client that would be fine for me
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11:45:46 <clokep> It seems like partial updates aren't working for Windows either. Did we know that?
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11:51:42 <flo-retina> clokep: yes, it's broken everywhere, someone needs to figure out why
11:52:02 <clokep> flo-retina: OK! I wasn't sure if we thought it was just Mac or on all OSes.
11:52:05 <flo-retina> clokep: but at least windows complete updates are smaller than mac universal ones ;)
11:53:11 <flo-retina> hmm, I'm not sure actually
11:53:23 <flo-retina> the windows distribute log looks like we are making the partial updates files for Windows
11:53:47 <flo-retina> we are not uploading them though
11:54:01 <flo-retina> uploading "dist/host/bin/mar.exe  dist/host/bin/mbsdiff.exe" instead
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11:55:00 <clokep> It was ~33MB.
11:55:13 <flo-retina> hmm, looks like we are making them on Mac too
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11:55:32 <flo-retina> it's just that on Mac there's this additional error message in the log:
11:55:32 <flo-retina> ssh: Could not resolve hostname ls -1t  | grep mac.complete.mar$ | head -n 1: nodename nor servname provided, or not known
11:56:23 <flo-retina> and we have a "No previous MAR found; not creating a partial MAR" message just before we start creating partial update files :-D
11:57:18 <flo-retina> do we know if that facebook user/inbox API endpoint is useable for IMs?
11:57:42 <clokep> I do not know.
11:57:51 <clokep> I don't know if I've looked at the 2.0 API
11:58:31 <flo-retina> "Last year they issued DMCA takedowns to all popular Github repositories hosting third-party clients and/or libraries interfacing with their API." hmm
11:58:46 <clokep> (o_O)
11:58:52 <clokep> What's the point of having an API then? :P
11:58:55 <flo-retina> that's from http://andregarzia.com/posts/en/whatsappdoesntunderstandtheweb/
11:59:06 <clokep> Oh, we changed topics?
11:59:40 <Nazadel> They use a form of XMPP, I believe. I was able to log-in through those things on github, but I couldn't use it on my phone anymore.
12:00:00 <flo-retina> clokep: I'm just reading the log ;)
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12:01:40 <clokep> Huh I missed that link.
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12:06:21 <clokep> Hah, funny article.
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12:16:38 <clokep> flo-retina: It doesn't look like you can *write* messages using the API?
12:16:47 <flo-retina> :(
12:17:04 <clokep> I assume that's what "Publishing" is at least..
12:17:09 <aleth> :-S
12:17:34 <clokep> 'You can't create a thread using the Graph API." 
12:17:56 <clokep> I'm unsure how that's a useful API.
12:19:32 <clokep> Yep, a quick google says you can't do it.
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12:29:35 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Other bug 1124618 filed by mpmc1987@gmail.com.
12:29:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1124618 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Can't login to MSN Messenger at all
12:32:47 <mpmc> Does the bot really need to print a complete e-mail address? I get enough spam as it is!
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13:07:45 <flo-retina> I think it used to print only the part before the @
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13:13:27 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1124618 from --- to DUPLICATE.
13:13:28 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1124618 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Can't login to MSN Messenger at all
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13:26:54 <Nazadel> I had simply assumed MSN was finally shut down.
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13:30:53 <clokep_work> Nazadel: http://ismsndeadyet.com/ ;)
13:31:56 <Nazadel> It stopped working in Pidgin a few days after Microsoft announced they were stopping their services in China. Heh. :p
13:32:04 <Nazadel> I connected the wrong dots.
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14:37:38 <flo-retina> wow, the red outline of the searchbox when the char counter is negative looks great. ++ to whoever implemented that :).
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14:50:20 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Of the searchbox? :-S
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14:53:31 <flo-retina> clokep_work: oops
14:53:40 <flo-retina> there's obviously no char counter in the searchbox ;)
14:53:53 <flo-retina> I'm pretty sure you can guess what I meant and what I've worked too much on lately
14:53:57 <clokep_work> Yeah. I assume you mean the input box!
14:54:08 <flo-retina> indeed
14:54:11 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I assumed, but wasn't sure if somehow someone added a max size to that. :)
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16:36:20 <clokep_work> https://github.com/Naatan/Instantbird-Sanity-MessageStyle/releases was brought up in #komodo, interesting. :)
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16:40:52 <Defman> Yeah, interesting
16:41:01 <Defman> I never see that before
16:41:21 <Defman> And now I'm very happy to find and use it :)
16:42:53 <flo-retina> is there a screenshot somewhere?
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16:48:31 <Defman> https://github.com/Naatan/Instantbird-Sanity-MessageStyle/raw/master/screenshot.png
16:57:20 <flo-retina> what's the line in orange?
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16:59:26 <Defman> Highlighted
16:59:31 <Defman> hovered
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19:33:49 <nhnt11> flo-retina, Defman: Do you know/remember when the conversation in that screenshot took place?
19:33:59 * nhnt11 is interested in awesometab discussions and can't find anything in recent logs
19:34:09 <Defman> I don't know, hah
19:34:24 <flo-retina> nhnt11: at 16:05:42 apparently :-P
19:34:28 * nhnt11 saw that :P
19:34:30 <flo-retina> nhnt11: I would guess it's at least a year old
19:34:34 <nhnt11> ah okay
19:34:36 <nhnt11> not relevant then
19:36:02 <flo-retina> nhnt11: well, kinda still relevant that it would be nice to show there how many unread messages the conversation has :)
19:36:08 <nhnt11> Yeah
19:36:59 <nhnt11> Screenshot was uploaded on github a year ago indeed
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23:50:55 <AlexanderSalas> My idea for this gsok is: 
23:50:55 <AlexanderSalas> do().many("prplIProtocol").asPossible == true; 
23:50:55 <AlexanderSalas> xD
23:51:19 <clokep> People need to mentor them.
23:51:21 <clokep> And then support them.
23:51:35 <AlexanderSalas> I can write code 
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23:52:05 <clokep> I'm not implying you can't.
23:52:39 <AlexanderSalas> I mean, I'm ready
23:53:26 <AlexanderSalas> Where is the source for "purpleICoreService"
23:54:02 <AlexanderSalas> purple/purplexpcom/public/purpleICoreService.idl
23:54:35 <clokep> AlexanderSalas: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/florian_queze.net/purple/ why?
23:55:10 <AlexanderSalas> I need set Status
23:55:15 <AlexanderSalas> What is the function?
23:56:04 <clokep> That's not how you set the status.
23:56:08 <clokep> Prpls shouldn't set the status anyway.
23:56:51 <clokep> https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/components/public/imIStatusInfo.idl is how you set the status of a buddy.
23:57:20 <AlexanderSalas> Thank you!
23:58:04 <AlexanderSalas> oh wait, the status of the windows buddy below my pofile picture
23:58:46 <AlexanderSalas> yes, is this
23:59:28 <clokep> Are you trying to set *YOUR* status or the status of someone on your buddy list?
23:59:43 <clokep> If you're writing a prpl you're not supposed to programatically set *YOUR* status.
23:59:48 <clokep> But I forget how to do it anyway. :)
23:59:55 <clokep> It might be https://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/components/public/imIUserStatusInfo.idl ?
23:59:59 <clokep> Off of the chat core