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04:24:38 <instant-buildbot> build #1290 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1290
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09:17:32 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Account manager bug 1121874 filed by amsin21@gmail.com.
09:17:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1121874 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Twitter authorization
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10:58:49 <flo-retina> aleth: hey :). I just looked at the debug log of my IRC account. The total connection now takes 4 seconds.
10:59:35 <aleth> How long was it before?
11:00:01 <flo-retina> I think it was more than a minute
11:00:06 <aleth> :-)
11:00:50 <flo-retina> aleth: the JOIN line has "<keys not logged>" at the end. Is that intentional?
11:01:07 <aleth> Yes, that's instead of logging your password
11:01:10 <flo-retina> I've got 2 auto-joined password protected channels. One is the last channel of the line, but one is in the middle
11:01:24 <flo-retina> so it's not possible from the debug log to see which channels had passwords
11:01:35 <aleth> Right
11:01:45 <flo-retina> hmm, wait, the 2 channels with passwords are actually the 2 last ones
11:02:13 <flo-retina> wasn't ISON something that we were intending to not use anymore?
11:02:44 <aleth> Would you prefer something like ,,,<key not logged>,<key not logged>?
11:02:58 <aleth> Yes, we shouldn't be sending ISON when we can send WATCH, but nobody has fixed that
11:03:21 <flo-retina> if we ever get issues related to not sending the right passwords, yes. As long as we don't need to debug anything related to that... I don't think it's worth changing it
11:03:31 <aleth> I agree with that
11:04:20 <aleth> I'm hoping the tests for sending the right password will fail before we need to look at debug logs for that ;)
11:04:28 <flo-retina> hmm, maybe we could save another second if we stopped sending ISON :)
11:04:37 <flo-retina> it seems we send it before sending JOIN
11:04:56 <flo-retina> I didn't know we had a test for that :)
11:05:02 <aleth> We do now ;)
11:05:27 <flo-retina> obviously I've stopped looking at all the cool stuff you all are checking in :)
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11:29:51 <clokep> aleth, flo-retina: I specifically liked that it says <password not logged> all grouped together: it means you can't tell from a log *which* channel used a password.
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11:30:23 <clokep> aleth, flo-retina: I think it's expecting we send some ISON. Do you not see us sending WATCH?
11:33:51 <clokep> Hmm...I thought bug 1121874 was already filed?
11:33:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1121874 cri, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, Twitter authorization
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11:38:45 <aleth> It sounds faimilar
11:40:23 <clokep> bug 1068397
11:40:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1068397 cri, --, ---, nobody, RESO WORKSFORME, Twitter chat account setup fails auth step
11:40:26 <clokep> Not sure why that's WFM.
11:41:22 <clokep> Oh hmm...cause the author said it worked for him a second time.
11:41:31 <clokep> That sounds to me like a saved cookie or something though?
11:42:15 <aleth> Could be.
11:42:24 <aleth> Seems like we have another blocker then...
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14:31:21 <crabrant> Is there any facility for nightly builds to be updated on Windows, or is it necessary for users to update manually?
14:32:27 <aleth> crabrant: They update automatically - the problem is that there haven't been any new Windows nightly builds for a while. Sorry!
14:32:37 <aleth> The Windows build infrastructure needs to be updated...
14:32:49 <crabrant> Ah, I see. Thanks for the info.
14:33:34 * aleth glances at Even
14:35:29 <clokep_work> aleth: Email him?
14:38:28 * flo-retina just did
14:38:42 <aleth> clokep_work: Did you land your msvc2013 patch on purple/ already?
14:38:49 <clokep_work> aleth: No.
14:39:01 <clokep_work> I wanted to let the builder try to build first.
15:02:26 <flo-retina> clokep_work, aleth: the Windows VM is now online
15:02:42 <flo-retina> unfortunately there's only 1.2GB of free space on C:\, I don't think that's enough to install MSVC2013
15:02:53 <clokep_work> :( What if you uninstall MSVC2010 first?
15:02:54 <flo-retina> I'm wondering if I should attempt to uninstall the old MSVCs
15:03:08 <flo-retina> we apparently have VC10.0 and 9.0
15:03:29 <aleth> It's not like they will be used again
15:04:01 <flo-retina> yeah
15:04:07 <flo-retina> I'm just not sure how much of a mess that would make on the VM
15:04:54 <flo-retina> lol, https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Developer_guide/Build_Instructions/Windows_Prerequisites says "35 GB free disk space"
15:05:34 <flo-retina> we've got 30GB on C:\ (system, programs, ...) and 30GB on D:\ (source and obj trees)
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15:07:50 <flo-retina> clokep_work: did you say you wanted to attempt to build once with 2010? Or should I just go ahead and uninstall that too?
15:08:20 <clokep_work> flo-retina: We had a failed build with it, I believe.
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15:09:16 <flo-retina> I don't even know what to uninstall
15:09:17 <flo-retina> what a mess :(
15:09:18 <clokep_work> flo-retina: http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1599/steps/compile/logs/stdio
15:09:26 <clokep_work> Yeah the last build on there said it's unsupported.
15:10:00 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I installed from http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/dd831853.aspx but I installed the free version, unsure if that matters.
15:11:32 <flo-retina> http://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/visual-studio-community-vs#sysreqs is not encouraging
15:13:55 * flo-retina is uninstalling VS2010
15:16:32 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I will say that it does seem to be quite a bit fatter than the older MSVCs :(
15:16:42 <clokep_work> I think you can choose not to install a bunch of it though. (I.e. the Windows Phone stuff)
15:17:46 <flo-retina> http://www.visualstudio.com/en-us/products/visual-studio-express-vs says 11GB
15:18:35 <clokep_work> flo-retina: "Express 2013 for Windows Desktop" says only 5 GB?
15:19:10 <flo-retina> ah, yes, I was confused :)
15:19:32 <aleth> about as big as xcode, then
15:21:34 <flo-retina> 6.73 after uninstalling 2010 :)
15:22:56 <flo-retina> but MSVS 2010 Service Pack 1 is still there :-S
15:24:31 <flo-retina> and I can't install it, because it needs to restore the previous files, and requests the CD of VS2010 :-S
15:25:17 <flo-retina> but I have 7.0 free now
15:25:18 <clokep_work> Guess you should have uninstalled that first? :-S
15:25:42 <flo-retina> clokep_work: there are bout 20 items in the add/remove pane of the configuration panel that look related to MSVC
15:25:57 <flo-retina> I tried first the one that I hoped would have removed all the others
15:26:02 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I went through this the other day. ;)
15:26:11 <clokep_work> Yeah, I ended up doing a bunch of them manually. :(
15:26:27 <flo-retina> I wonder why Windows software installation is still so broken
15:26:38 <flo-retina> that's a solved problem everywhere else
15:27:59 <flo-retina> now the VS2013 installer says it needs "up to 7GB"
15:28:03 <flo-retina> what does that even mean?
15:33:07 <clokep_work> I assume it means it needs scratch space.
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15:35:15 <qheaden> Hello.
15:36:03 <flo-retina> I also removed an old mozilla-build to save 400MB
15:36:19 <flo-retina> tbh I would be surprised if I had a working VM after all that but it's worth trying
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16:08:07 <flo-retina> the VM is now rebooting to complete the install
16:14:11 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Thanks. :)
16:21:09 <flo-retina> http://buildbot.instantbird.org/waterfall !
16:21:29 * flo-retina was wondering why starting buildbot gave absolutely no output in the terminal
16:21:32 <flo-retina> but it _is_ started
16:22:23 <aleth> \o/
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16:35:40 <aleth> it seems to be stuck in a loop?
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16:37:38 <flo-retina> aleth: what are you talking about?
16:37:51 <aleth> http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1600/steps/hg_1/logs/stdio
16:38:17 <aleth> Hmm, reloading changes the result.
16:38:30 <aleth> Looks OK now.
16:38:33 <flo-retina> that step finished successfully
16:39:01 <aleth> I guess you're not meant to load the log while it's still running
16:40:00 <flo-retina> why not?
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16:44:09 <aleth> When I thought it was stuck in a loop, it was because I got multiple copies of the same log in a page that never stopped loading.
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16:57:59 <clokep_work> :)
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17:06:28 <clokep_work> if that build fails, please ask me before anythign tries debugging it, I'll be able to tell you if it's what I had previously seen.
17:07:01 <myk> hmm, instantbird has stopped rejoining an irc channel with a password after i reconnect to its server
17:07:05 <myk> known issue?
17:07:40 <flo-retina> clokep_work: isn't your known failure only in purple land?
17:08:13 <flo-retina> ooh, looks like it passed configure :)
17:08:38 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I guess now we should be able to give an answer to the "when will there be a windows nightly" question :)
17:10:59 <clokep_work> myk: "stopped" as of today?
17:11:04 <clokep_work> It could be fallout from aleth's patch.
17:11:46 <myk> clokep_work: hmm, i first noticed it yesterday, i haven't checked for updates today yet
17:11:59 <aleth> That landed on the 9th though
17:12:02 <myk> clokep_work: looks like i have version 1.6a1pre (20150112145508)
17:12:29 <aleth> myk: Is it a regression or something that has never worked?
17:12:43 <myk> erm, correction: i first noticed it tuesday!
17:12:56 <myk> aleth: it's a regression! instantbird used to rejoin such rooms automagically
17:13:09 <clokep_work> aleth: :'(
17:13:13 <aleth> myk: probably my fault then :-(
17:13:28 <myk> (a very handy feature, since i leave the client running all the time and regularly put my laptop to sleep and then wake it back up again)
17:13:29 <aleth> and I wrote so many nice tests ;)
17:13:51 <clokep_work> myk: Is it something you auto-join or something you manually join each time? Just trying to limit STR!
17:13:52 <flo-retina> aleth: so we were saying something about not having to debug channel passwords yet? ;)
17:14:04 <aleth> myk: If you could provide a debug log of what happens on reconnect that would be very helpful
17:14:26 <clokep_work> (And sorry!)
17:14:42 <myk> clokep_work: it's something i manually join on startup (can't auto-join because it requires a password, which instantbird didn't support auto-joining the last time i checked)
17:14:55 <clokep_work> myk: We've always supported that IIRC. ;)
17:15:14 <clokep_work> But it saves the password in plaintext.
17:15:18 <clokep_work> And is kind of a hack...
17:15:36 <aleth> I certainly didn't break reconnecting autojoined password-protected channels, because I tested that
17:16:06 <myk> clokep_work: hmm, the last time i asked about it, i recall being told that it isn't supported *because* it would save the password in plaintext; is it just specifying the password after the channel name in the auto-join string?
17:16:11 <aleth> myk: Is the channel in your autojoin list, but without a password?
17:16:36 <aleth> I suspect fixing one bug may have revealed another :-|
17:16:48 <myk> aleth: i can provide a debug log if you let me know how to do so
17:17:04 <myk> aleth: it isn't in my autojoin list; i join it manually each time i startup
17:17:12 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 955493 from --- to WONTFIX.
17:17:13 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955493 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO WONTFIX, Hide Auto-Joins doesn't work for password-protected channels
17:17:21 <myk> aleth: (i would put it onto my autojoin list if i could, but i thought that i couldn't because it requires a password)
17:17:36 <aleth> myk: use "/debug" or the context menu on the account in the account manager
17:17:42 <clokep_work> aleth: I was thinking the same thing...that if it's in the list it would automatically get ignored.
17:18:12 <clokep_work> myk: Yes, just specifying it after the channel name is how you do it.
17:18:12 <aleth> clokep_work: I was thinking that we used to send JOIN twice, but my patch fixed that, and that may have broken something for myk...
17:18:38 <clokep_work> Hmm...it might also be that we try to send JOIN before he's identified? Not sure if that's involved.
17:18:43 <aleth> myk: i.e. |channelname key,channelname key,...|
17:18:44 <clokep_work> Need to see if it's being sent at all or not. :)
17:19:16 <myk> ok, i have a debug log; aleth: where shall i put it for you?
17:19:34 <aleth> myk: pastebin is fine, or does it contain anything sensitive?
17:19:38 <myk> fwiw, i don't see the name of the channel anywhere in the log
17:20:01 <myk> aleth: i see a lot of people identifiers; anything else i should look for to determine the presence of sensitive info?
17:20:36 <aleth> myk: Passwords aren't logged, so apart from messages/channels/etc, no. But you could email me the log if you prefer
17:21:14 <myk> aleth: eh, it seems sane enough; http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8227686
17:21:44 <aleth> myk: Sorry about breaking that, but thanks for letting me know :-)
17:22:01 <aleth> myk: FWIW adding the channel to the autojoin list should work around the bug for you.
17:22:27 <myk> aleth: no worries! i'll probably add it to my autojoin list, but i can wait to do that until you fix the bug, so i can help verify the fix
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17:32:55 <instantbot> New Chat Core - IRC bug 1122096 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
17:32:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1122096 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Reconnecting password-protected channels that were not autojoined fails
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17:55:26 <clokep_work> aleth: For bug 1108596...I don't love adding that timer there, but can't think of something better to do. :(
17:55:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1108596 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Don't send both ISON and WATCH/MONITOR
17:56:29 <aleth> clokep_work: same here
17:59:27 <clokep_work> Alright...
18:00:07 <clokep_work> I wish 005 was sent *BEFORE* 001.
18:00:11 <clokep_work> That'd make a lot more sense
18:00:32 <aleth> It would!
18:00:51 <aleth> There's never a defined endpoint to IRC connects
18:01:29 <clokep_work> Ah, but all the error checking around isOnTimer already exists. :)
18:01:32 <clokep_work> That makes me feel better.
18:01:37 <aleth> Yes, I checked that.
18:05:35 <clokep_work> :) Thanks.
18:05:40 <clokep_work> I'm sure flo-retina will be happy too. :P
18:05:55 <clokep_work> aleth: Do you know if that IRC test is still failing for TB?
18:06:08 <instant-buildbot> build #1600 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1600
18:06:14 <aleth> clokep_work: TB looks pretty green after all the pushes yesterday :-)
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18:08:18 <clokep_work> Sweet, same issue I was seeing.
18:09:18 <aleth> :-)
18:09:55 <aleth> Bah, I thought template strings had landed?
18:10:16 <aleth> Oh wait, I may have used the wrong apostrophe
18:10:20 <clokep_work> aleth, flo-retina: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1121025 r?
18:10:36 <clokep_work> Huh, what?
18:10:45 <clokep_work> DnsQuery_UTF8 and friends is at http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/ms682016%28v=vs.85%29.aspx
18:10:53 <clokep_work> It's in dnsapi.lib, which we're apparently not linking against.
18:10:53 <aleth> Indeed.
18:11:02 <clokep_work> It's used in the dns code in libpurple.
18:12:18 * clokep_work isn't sure if "Indeed" means r+ ;)
18:12:19 <aleth> clokep_work: looks ok to me, r+
18:12:33 <aleth> "Indeed" meant "I used the wrong apostrophe"
18:13:09 <clokep_work> Where?
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18:13:15 <clokep_work> I have no context for what we're discussing...
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18:14:33 <aleth> template strings...
18:15:06 <aleth> part of ES6
18:16:50 <clokep_work> Ohhhh.
18:16:53 <clokep_work> Yeah I saw a post about those.
18:16:56 <clokep_work> Kind of interesting, I guess?
18:17:29 * clokep_work wonders if he should file a bug for that patch or not...
18:18:47 <aleth> clokep_work: saves typing lots of "++" in dump() statements
18:21:16 <aleth> myk: Could you test something for me? After manually joining your password-protected channel, join some other (password-free) channel you're not yet connected to, then reconnect.
18:21:37 <myk> aleth: sure!
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18:22:25 <aleth> Did the password-protected channel reconnect now? It did for me.
18:23:52 <myk> aleth: hmm, no; i was already connected to the password-protected channel, having manually joined it earlier this morning; so i joined #macdev, then disconnected and reconnected, whereupon i once again didn't join the password-protected channel; but perhaps i need to start from scratch, manually rejoining the password-protected channel right before i do the rest of the steps in your test?
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18:24:30 <aleth> myk: No, that's fine. I'll do some more digging. (The odd thing here is we seem to be sending the correct command to the server)
18:26:36 <flo-retina> clokep_work: r+
18:26:45 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Thanks so much!
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18:28:28 <flo-retina> clokep_work: my only concern was "are we sure that library exists on Windows XP" but MSDN says so. I guess it was just a VC2010 bug that it didn't fail before.
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18:30:23 <clokep_work> http://hg.mozilla.org/users/florian_queze.net/purple/rev/97d705217541
18:30:43 <clokep_work> flo-retina: It's also possible it's not related to MSVC 2013 and our builds were just happening for so long. :-\
18:30:46 <aleth> myk: Looks like it's actually an inspircd bug! I'll have to talk to their developers to see what best to do about it.
18:31:16 <myk> aleth: ooh!
18:31:22 * myk finds all the best bugs
18:32:16 <clokep_work> aleth: Can you dump some info in the bugzilla bug? I'm curious. :)
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18:40:44 <clokep_work> Kicked off another build.
18:40:55 <aleth> Windowss nightlies on their way :-)
18:42:08 <clokep_work> Hopefully...
18:42:59 <aleth> might fail during packaging ;)
18:50:05 <clokep_work> Meh.
18:50:09 <clokep_work> Don't make me dislike you.
18:51:43 <clokep_work> aleth: That's a weird bug. :-S
18:51:51 <clokep_work> Does a,b,c ,password, work? :P
18:52:10 <clokep_work> We need to work around that though, don't we? :
18:52:10 <aleth> Yup, they seem to have a problem with double commas ;)
18:52:31 <aleth> I guess so :-S even if they fix it...
18:58:44 <clokep_work> aleth: A reasonable work around is to send ones with passwords immediately.
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19:30:12 <InReal4D> impossible to reconnect to account Hangout / Gmail after disconnections during a session Instantbird!
19:31:12 <InReal4D> (fr/eng)
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19:52:08 <clokep_work> InReal4D: I've seen that a few times, but haven't had luck reproducing it / been able to debug it at all.
19:52:14 <clokep_work> I suspect something changed with their server configuration.
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20:03:30 <InReal4D> ok clokep_work
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20:03:50 <clokep_work> InReal4D: If you have any thoughts on the issue It'd be great to know!
20:03:56 <clokep_work> It sounds like an issue we *used* to have with IRC...
20:04:05 <clokep_work> aleth: Maybe they updated their SSL finally and it's kind of broken? :P
20:04:30 <aleth> heh, possibly!
20:05:07 <InReal4D> Accounts : Error: The server closed the connection (Gmail)
20:06:48 <InReal4D> used XMPP ?
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20:09:37 <clokep_work> Yes, it uses XMPP.
20:09:56 <clokep_work> InReal4D: If you right click on the account in the account manager and copy the debug log, maybe it'll give us something useful. :)
20:10:01 <clokep_work> I haven't seen aynthing useful in mine. :(
20:10:34 <aleth> iirc the server really does just close the connection.
20:12:04 <InReal4D> clokep_work: http://pastebin.com/d0z4UYsg
20:24:28 <instant-buildbot> build #1601 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1601
20:24:37 <InReal4D> @+ and good luck (et bon courage)
20:24:54 <aleth> \o/ Windows is back :)
20:25:23 <aleth> well done.
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20:27:26 <clokep_work> Sweet. :)
20:27:43 <clokep_work> aleth, InReal4D: Yaeh it just closes it. :( No info.
20:28:11 <aleth> could well be some TLS session token thing, given that restarting IB fixes it
20:30:13 <InReal4D> Otherwise I can not find how to change the theme, the tutorial is quite complicated I find (FR:Sinon je ne trouve pas comment modifier le thème, le tutoriel est assez compliqué je trouve)
20:30:40 <InReal4D> how to create a theme*
20:31:11 <InReal4D> link:https://trac.adium.im/wiki/CreatingMessageStyles/Tutorial
20:34:43 <aleth> InReal4D: It's not too hard, the best way to get started is to take an existing message style and modify it.
20:34:56 <aleth> You have seen https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Message_Styles_reference ?
20:35:22 <aleth> Especially https://wiki.instantbird.org/Instantbird:Message_Styles:Files
20:35:51 <InReal4D> but where to find the packages?
20:36:17 <aleth> Here are the default message styles http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/themes/messages/ and there are many more as addons on addons.instantbird.org
20:36:57 <InReal4D> Good aleth
20:37:05 <aleth> Addons are just zip files
20:37:13 <aleth> You can look inside ;)
20:38:35 <clokep_work> Are you trying to make your own or just use one that's premade?
20:38:46 <clokep_work> aleth: DO you remember how to test that or how we figured that out? :-S
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20:39:45 <aleth> clokep_work: no :-/
20:42:08 <flo-retina> Windows nightlies! \o/
20:42:23 <flo-retina> do we know if anybody has verified that they actually work? :)
20:46:09 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I can verify if I go home tonight.
20:46:14 <clokep_work> (Keyword on the if. ;))
20:46:48 <InReal4D> to save the zip?
20:47:08 <clokep_work> aleth: Are you sure they just have to appear first?
20:47:27 <aleth> clokep_work: seems to work
20:47:37 <clokep_work> Neat. :) Did you try with multiple passwords?
20:47:46 <clokep_work> #c1,#c2,#c3 p1,p2,
20:49:20 <clokep_work> aleth: To be clear, if my comment isn't.. I mean aItems.sort(...)
20:53:42 <aleth> Hmm, that could work. I somehow misremembered aItems was a Map
20:54:41 <aleth> But yeah, multiple passwords appear to work.
20:55:03 <clokep_work> Oh, is aItems a map? Hmm....
20:55:09 <clokep_work> I don't know if you can sort maps.
20:55:14 <clokep_work> I was thinking it was an array of arrays.
20:56:49 <aleth> It's not a Map
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23:51:52 <clokep> flo-retina, aleth: Hello from a new Windows nightly. :)
23:51:57 <flo-retina> :)
23:52:25 <clokep> Thank you so much for installing that stuff today!
23:52:54 <flo-retina> Glad it works! :)
23:56:17 <aleth> clokep, flo-retina: thanks for resuscitating Windows :-)
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23:57:57 <flo-retina> aleth: Even looked into it too! ;)
23:58:12 <flo-retina> btw, do we have any clue about what to do for gtalk?
23:58:38 <flo-retina> it's annoying that I'm only connected when restarting for an update ;)