#instantbird log on 01 06 2015

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01:48:09 <Tobin> anyone familair with the twitter "protocol" in chat core that would be willing to give me a few moments?
01:49:50 <clokep> Tobin: It's best if you just ask your questions.
01:52:46 <Tobin> well i wanted to know if something changed that I have not picked up in the IM component in mail with the twitter protocol that is causing a sorta messed up parsing of the username.. guess this would help to illistrate.. http://personal.mattatobin.com/share/capture/f39c0ca2-1838-46b0-af74-2537cdcc06bb.jpg the username is repeated but has a "> in it.. I am almost sure it was some change i need to reflect in frontend code like i said 
01:52:46 <Tobin> BUT i wanted to know if you guys who know the chat core could just point me in the general direction
01:53:12 <Tobin> maybe you had to correct this in the instantbird front end too for instance
01:53:27 <Tobin> if that stands out to someone or should i keep hunting on my own
01:53:39 <clokep> Tobin: You know that the same people maintain all those three sets of code, right?
01:53:45 <clokep> That link doesn't work btw.
01:53:49 <Tobin> OH
01:53:51 <Tobin> sorry
01:54:03 <Tobin> http://personal.mattatobin.com/share/image/capture/f39c0ca2-1838-46b0-af74-2537cdcc06bb.jpg
01:54:49 <Tobin> i thought thunderbird team would be in charge of mail's IM component
01:55:16 <clokep> Tobin: Your concept that people can't be on both teams is wrong.
01:55:24 <Tobin> well
01:55:32 <Tobin> i didn't know how much cross over there was
01:55:35 <Tobin> is what i ment
01:55:51 <clokep> Hmm...so maybe a change in browser element or the theme.
01:55:58 <clokep> How long back are you looking?
01:57:02 <Tobin> ok the fe code in mail is ESR24 and the chat core is ESR31 level (yeah i know IB's versioning isn't aligned) but i been focusing on changes with the twitter parts that affect both backend and frontend code but have come up short so far
01:57:09 <clokep> I wonder why it would only happen seomtimes, that's kind of weird.
01:57:15 <Tobin> yeah
01:57:34 <clokep> Why not just update to ESR31?
01:57:57 <clokep> Everything I've thought of would be after ESR31.
01:57:59 <Tobin> our gecko backend is indepedently developed and we have forked the entire codebase
01:58:13 <Mook_as> Are the 3rd and 4th messages from you trying to send things in that session? (and the second one being something incoming from a different client?)
01:59:04 <Tobin> that is correct
01:59:44 <Tobin> it is quite odd tbh
02:02:08 <clokep> I don't know sorry.
02:02:19 <clokep> "independently developed" isn't it just compiled with different options?
02:02:26 <Tobin> No
02:02:30 <Tobin> it is literally split
02:02:34 <clokep> And having "forked the entire codebase" doesn't mean you can't track an upstream branch.
02:02:39 <clokep> But whatever, I don't want to discuss that.
02:02:45 <Tobin> yeah
02:02:56 <clokep> I hav eno idea what the change is, I'd suggest putting dump statements in and seeing what's special about those values.
02:03:02 <Mook_as> with the caveat that I don't know the twitter code at all, have you tried checking the incoming user (around http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/twitter/twitter.js#616 ) looks sensible, and all that?
02:03:47 <Mook_as> also, good luck with gecko forks.  It can be painful to merge.
02:05:10 <Tobin> Well i figured it was worth a shot asking.. will poke about.. Though I do wanna say thanks for developing in a solid way that isn't all refactor-y every five seconds :P
02:09:03 <clokep> We refactored a bit after 31 FYI.
02:09:20 <clokep> But not a TON, but we did rename a couple of interfaces and add a couple more.
02:10:52 <Tobin> see what bothers me about this.. is i have to contend with the merge when instantbird fully joined comm.. so some of the history is a bit screwy
02:11:04 <Tobin> that happened between 24 and 31
02:11:11 <clokep> That sucks. :P
02:11:26 <Tobin> of course twitter SEEMS to be the only thing actually affected in my backport of chat core
02:11:36 <Tobin> and it is just a tiny little thing like this.. 
02:11:43 <Tobin> so over all it is outstanding
02:13:32 <Mook_as> I guess you picked up some of the cost of me getting a better experience in Thunderbird :p
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02:14:37 <Tobin> its fine.. good learning experence.. oh gone...
02:14:38 <Tobin> lol
02:14:43 <Tobin> well thanks guys
02:15:16 <Tobin> i shall keep poking about.. but it FEELS like this isn't anything to expressly do with twitter.js.. but something that needs to be fixed in the frontend code in mail's IM component
02:15:50 <clokep> I doubt it's just twitter.
02:15:57 <clokep> Probably just something that's more obvious in Twitter.
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02:16:47 <Tobin> could be worse clokep .. could be xul errors and error console flooding all over the place :P
02:17:02 <clokep> At least it'd point how to fix it.
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02:18:23 <Tobin|FossaMail> test
02:18:26 <Tobin> test
02:18:36 <Tobin> welp
02:18:40 <Tobin> that settles that
02:18:44 <clokep> My guess is aliases.
02:18:56 <Tobin> clokep: yep happening on nicks in irc too
02:19:12 <clokep> Fun.
02:19:27 <Tobin> still leaning tword frontend code
02:19:32 <Tobin> so something in the IM component
02:20:08 <Tobin> well there are 22 RESOLVED FIXED bugs for the thunderbird IM component
02:20:13 <Tobin> so guess will check those
02:20:27 <Tobin> i'll let you know if i fix it.. if you care lol
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02:21:03 <clokep> I'd be curious.
02:21:19 <clokep> It could also be a chat core bug that was fixed that included changes to the im stuff though.
02:21:31 <Tobin> right
02:22:37 <Tobin> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=956487
02:22:39 <instantbot> Bug 956487 nor, --, Thunderbird 29.0, richard.marti, RESO FIXED, IM: Pseudo is messed after landing of bug 920801
02:22:39 <Tobin> snap
02:23:05 <clokep> Seems likely.
02:23:13 <Tobin> no it is exactly what is happening
02:23:18 <Tobin> ">
02:23:54 <Tobin> clokep: thanks .. sometimes bouncing something off someone seems to focus me better when i spend all day poking about aimlessly
02:23:59 <Tobin> :)
02:24:12 <clokep> Cool.
02:24:36 <clokep> Have you guys made any fixes that would benefit upstream?
02:25:51 <Tobin> not yet... my goal is to keep chat core updated so if we do have any fixes they won't have to be mangled horribly back to your codebase... though it is unlikely our mail instant messenging component will be very applicable..
02:27:26 <Tobin> it would be my hope to try and keep chat core in sync not with comm releases but with instantbird releases
02:27:52 <clokep> Alright.
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02:28:03 <Tobin> since this gets us much closer to trunk
02:28:26 <Tobin> Oh yeah.. did you guys in chat core have to do much to get it to build with msvc?
02:28:36 <Tobin> we are sticking with 2012 actually
02:28:55 <clokep> What do you mean "get it to build with msvc"? It's always built with it...
02:29:02 <clokep> And it's all JS code. ;)
02:29:12 <Tobin> chatcore doesn't have any c++
02:29:13 <Tobin> ?
02:29:20 <Tobin> i didn't think it had much if any
02:29:20 <clokep> No.
02:29:23 <Tobin> oh good
02:29:27 <Tobin> then that isn't a problem
02:29:30 <clokep> I'm more concerned about libpurple
02:29:35 <Tobin> right
02:29:39 <Tobin> bloody libpurple
02:29:53 <Tobin> i am glad you guys are getting such good work done with chat core
02:32:41 <clokep> Thanks.
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02:33:26 <Tobin> mach do your voodoo!
02:34:06 <Tobin> .. really need to see if i can patch mach not to falsely error out on a comm build..
02:34:19 <clokep> That's fixed now.
02:34:23 <clokep> In like TB 34 or something.
02:34:27 <Tobin> how did you guys solve it
02:34:33 <clokep> No idea.
02:34:38 <Tobin> :P
02:34:52 <clokep> I think it was fixed by the merge of the objdirs
02:35:05 <Tobin> yeah that was a thing
02:35:20 <Tobin> about the only part of cc-rework mozilla would allow right now
02:35:41 <Tobin> i been tinkering with a "comm-merge" of my own on our codebase
02:35:51 <Tobin> comm is an abomination to be brutally honest
02:36:36 <Tobin> i am sure everyone on comm would agree with that :P
02:37:02 <Tobin> like i said.. independent and forked
02:37:45 <clokep> OK.
02:38:10 <Tobin> don't worry.. i never forget those who are awesome.. and i won't let Moonchild forget either
02:42:10 <clokep> ... this build is taking a lot of my ram...
02:45:25 <Tobin> clokep: again if you care.. here is some background on me.. I hung around the SeaMonkey project for a very long time.. like five years off and on.. so while i am always still learning i generally know where MOST things are and my greatest knowlege is in the comm codebase.. in fact most of my knowlege of mozilla's code and structure comes from comm programs and seamonkey specifically.. I've done a few minor patches and bug triage.. but 
02:45:25 <Tobin> I really picked the worse time to try and get into it.. because refactor-fest and rabid release started.. it sorda felt like i couldn't get a handle on anything because .. OOPS it changed or OOPS broken.. but then I joined the Pale Moon project.. but as Pale Moon expanded and then the split actually happened where we forked our codebase it made sense to do the same thing with comm and the then basic rebuild of thunderbird deemed 
02:45:26 <Tobin> FossaMail.. Build our mail client off our backend.. but comm has had very little development unlike the backend and needed fixed up some to build with it.. and so it was logical that I majorly take charge of it because of my comm releated background.. and that has lead me to today.. updating chat core and bugging the hell out of you!
02:46:28 <clokep> Alright.
02:46:37 <clokep> I still don't understand why you guys are a fork. but...whatever
02:51:12 <Tobin> well.. that is indeed a complicated situation but one aspect is.. one needs challanges to do better.. Mozilla programs have no real compeditors using their code.. yes there are minor rebuilds.. rebrands.. but no one has set out to actually make a truely divergent product.. We have particular conventions some mozilla programs are ditching and some different ideas and ideals .. somewhat for the challange.. somewhat because we have a 
02:51:12 <Tobin> vision forming that we don't feel other mozilla projects fit anymore.. and some because we can.. of course these surface points don't do the depth of some of the reasons justice.. and I don't want to go on and on.. Of course it is my hope to contribute back and not forget where we came from.. but sometimes you have to go in your own direction..
02:51:22 <Tobin> thats all i am gonna get into right now
02:52:30 <clokep> FYI I read that as "because we can"...
02:52:59 <Tobin> because that was one of the surface points
02:53:12 <Tobin> but that isn't even a major factor
02:53:23 <clokep> Bahhhhh why is my computer running so slowly I can't even REVIEW code.
02:53:37 <Tobin> clokep: how many cores do you have
02:53:38 <Tobin> ?
02:54:08 <Tobin> and what did you set your -jN to
02:54:25 <Tobin> also .. linking can eat ram and cpui
02:54:28 <Tobin> cpu*
02:54:54 <clokep> I always run -j 1
02:54:57 <Tobin> OH DAMN IT...
02:55:11 <Tobin> i HATE libevil
02:55:14 <Tobin> aka libxul
02:56:01 <Tobin> if i had the knowlege right now how to do it.. i would abolish libxul to the pits of hell
03:06:39 <Tobin> Well anyway thanks so much for your help.. and for just listening to me ramble clokep .. it has been fun.. I shall leave you alone for now.. Peace and Thanks again
03:07:10 <clokep> Tobin: Goodnight.
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11:18:39 <clokep> Hmmm...my msvc 2013 build works but there's no libpurple....
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12:56:36 <clokep_work> Btw there was no libpurple cause I didn't build it with puplre. :-D
12:56:43 <clokep_work> I started a new build before leaving...
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13:40:30 <flo-retina> sounds like a plausible explanation ;)
13:46:59 <clokep_work> One of those issue is between the chair and keyboard moments?
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18:16:43 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 1118363 filed by emanuel.hoogeveen@gmail.com.
18:16:44 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1118363 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Messages from blocked or muted users still show up in Twitter timeline
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18:21:51 <clokep_work> That ^ sounds ridiculous and like it should be handled by the API endpoint, not by us..
18:22:41 <flo-retina> yeah, I thought the same
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22:32:42 <clokep> :-S Symbols DnsFree and DnsQuery_UTF not found for purplexpcom...
22:33:40 <aleth> msvc2013?
22:35:33 <aleth> "Preemptively fix bustage in ..." followed by "Really fix bustage in ..." :D
22:36:05 <aleth> always with the reality check...
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22:50:33 <clokep> OK got it to build with a one line change!
22:52:30 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 1118499 filed by emanuel.hoogeveen@gmail.com.
22:52:31 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1118499 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Incoming messages on Yahoo all start with [#000099m
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22:54:55 <aleth> clokep: :-)
22:56:19 <aleth> paging qheaden... qheaden to the yahoo room please ;)
22:57:59 <clokep> aleth: Mid-air.
23:01:23 <aleth> We haven't had Windows nightlies for a while.
23:01:31 <clokep> I know. :-\
23:01:40 <clokep> I meant to ask flo-retina if there was anything I could do about that.
23:02:15 <aleth> Maybe MSVC2013 means a reinstall is needed anyway. But it would have been nice to have a nightly before making the switch
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23:10:30 <DGMurdockIII> i was wondering why there wasent a windows nightly realesew
23:10:35 <DGMurdockIII> in a while
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23:17:02 <flo-retina> clokep: well... we'll need to figure this out with Even...
23:17:14 <flo-retina> clokep: last time I discussed it with him, he put the VM back on
23:17:26 <flo-retina> but that failed due to VS2010 or something
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23:18:43 <clokep> Right, we need MSVC 2013 now.
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23:24:05 <clokep> flo-retina: That's why I just tried it locally so we know it will work. :)
23:24:11 <clokep> And it doesn't, we'll need a one line patch.
23:24:21 <flo-retina> ok.
23:24:37 <flo-retina> I can't VNC into the Windows VM right now, so I assume it's off.
23:24:52 <clokep> Right. :(
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23:39:15 <clokep> Huh....test_setMode.js failed on treeherder. :-S
23:40:27 <clokep> " TypeError: this.ERROR is not a function at resource:///modules/jsProtoHelper.jsm:479 "
23:41:13 <instantbot> New Chat Core - IRC bug 1118515 filed by hiikezoe@mozilla-japan.org.
23:41:14 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1118515 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | chat/protocols/irc/test/test_setMode.js | xpcshell return code: 0
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23:44:19 <Mook_as> for one thing, FakeAccount didn't init logging, so it doesn't have .ERROR
23:44:38 <clokep> Yeah, I get that.
23:44:44 <clokep> But...why is that even getting called?
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23:46:26 * clokep  is feeling dumb cause he can't remember how to run xpcshell tests.
23:49:10 <clokep> :-\ It looks like all the chat tests are failing for me...
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