#instantbird log on 12 16 2014

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00:00:50 <tjo> Instant bird has suddenly began using near a gig of ram. what might I do to fix this?
00:01:12 <clokep> aleth, flo-retina: ^
00:02:45 <aleth> tjo: do you have lots of long conversations open? restarting Instantbird should certainly help
00:03:08 <flo-retina> tjo: Hi. Can you type "/about memory" in a conversation window, and then click the "Measure" button?
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00:05:33 <tjo>  yep did  that
00:05:44 <tjo> should I paste the results here?
00:06:07 <flo-retina> paste it on pastebin.mozilla.org please
00:06:34 <aleth> make sure there's nothing confidental in there ;)
00:06:40 <flo-retina> indeed! :)
00:07:31 <tjo> done 
00:08:30 <clokep> Paste the link here. :)
00:09:44 <tjo> http://pastebin.mozilla.org/8022925
00:11:34 <clokep> "1,598.65 MB ── private" :-S
00:11:40 <clokep> aleth, flo-retina: ^ Any idea what that means?
00:12:36 <aleth> no idea
00:13:06 <aleth> tjo: does it get less when you click "minimize memory usage" in about memory
00:13:42 <tjo> only by a little it goes down to 1.3 gb
00:14:07 <aleth> You're using 1.5 right?
00:14:11 <tjo> yes
00:14:51 <aleth> Would be interesting to find out if the same behaviour happened in nightlies
00:15:03 <aleth> about memory has certainly improved its reporting ;)
00:15:18 <clokep> Haven't we fixed some memory leaks too?
00:15:42 <aleth> That too, but it's not obvious if they are related
00:16:04 <tjo> should I grab a nightly build?
00:17:41 <flo-retina> strange that explicit is only 123MB here
00:18:10 <aleth> Apart from the bit at the bottom its unremarkable
00:18:18 <flo-retina> clokep: I think private is the memory that's not shared, ie. the memory that's used by this specific process
00:18:31 <Mook_a1> Would that be the sort of thing that libpurple allocates? (does it use mozilla's jemalloc?)
00:18:52 <flo-retina> my guess would be that this large amount of private memory is allocated by something not using jemalloc; I would guess a plugin or graphic driver.
00:19:18 <flo-retina> Mook_a1: we have a memory reporter for glib (which is what libpurple uses to allocate)
00:19:50 <Mook_a1> ah, nice
00:20:29 <flo-retina> Mook_a1: btw, given that we link libpurple statically against our purplexpcom C++ xpcom component, which links against all the mozilla crt stuff, I assume libpurple uses jemalloc
00:20:30 <instantbot> c++ is evil
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00:20:42 * instantbot smiles
00:20:53 <aleth> tjo: by the way, you can use Instantbird for IRC too ;)
00:21:13 <tjo> yes i was trying to connect here using it but it wasn't working and wasn't reporting an error 
00:21:40 <aleth> tjo: Have you seen this kind of memory use more than once?
00:21:44 <tjo> i actually much prefer it to MIRC
00:22:13 <tjo> i've been getting low memory  errors frequently and finally today investigated
00:22:16 <tjo> so i'm not entirely sure
00:22:27 <aleth> If it happens regularly, I'd suggest trying the nightly and seeing if it goes away or about memory gives more info
00:22:52 <aleth> Over 1G seems way too much for that little explicit memory usage.
00:22:55 <tjo> wow it's actually gone back up to 1.4 
00:24:27 * clokep is interested in why you can't connect to IRC... ;)
00:24:31 * aleth wonders if misbehaving sound drivers would show up like that too
00:24:50 <clokep> Or graphic driver that tries to refresh too much or something?
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05:01:01 <instant-buildbot> build #1259 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1259
05:01:43 <instant-buildbot> build #2463 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed shell_5]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2463
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06:04:18 <Mook_mb> Oh. That crash from http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/141215/#m123 isn't going to be fixed tomorrow, is it :|
06:06:54 <EionRobb> depends, what're you doing tomorrow Mook_mb?
06:12:59 <Mook_mb> https://crash-stats.mozilla.com/report/index/b777fa55-92e6-4e75-a5d0-813842141216 - dealing with ranges, so probably http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/modules/imThemes.jsm#512
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06:35:15 <Mook__> ... wait, why isn't this crashing :(
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07:00:23 <Mook_mb> Note for myself when I look at it tomorrow: http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/components/src/smileProtocolHandler.js
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08:14:18 <Mook__> \o/
08:15:08 <Defman> \m/
08:21:49 <instant-buildbot> build #155 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/155
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11:21:29 <flo-retina> I've had enough of 1.5 already :)
11:24:04 <flo-retina> Looks like people are passing the hot potato around in bug 1111670
11:24:06 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1111670 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Files from defaults/profile are missing in new profiles
11:25:00 <clokep> Oh really? I can't get on my email Daily is crashing. :(
11:26:48 <flo-retina> That's the email-free week for you then ;)
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11:30:02 <clokep> flo-retina, aleth: So has anyone tested aceman's patch about the nschannel2 changes? Does it fix the crash?
11:30:11 * flo-retina hasn't
11:30:17 <aleth> I haven't looked at it.
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11:32:26 <aleth> flo-retina: should we set up bets on who bsmedberg is going to needinfo? ;)
11:33:03 <flo-retina> would be entertaining if he needinfo'ed someone who'll end up needinfo'ing someone who has already been in the cycle before :)
11:33:18 <aleth> "don't look at me! I only wrote the code!" ;)
11:34:55 <aleth> Actually bsmedberg is probably one of the few people who can decide if those files need shipping or not...
11:35:22 <flo-retina> maybe gps? :)
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13:32:07 <clokep_work> I've confirmed that aplying that patch stops the crash. :)
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13:56:13 <flo-retina> clokep_work: :)
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17:32:19 <sukhe> aleth: hi. just saw your comment. so I should just add the file(s) to NON_OMNIJAR_FILES in im/installer/Makefile?
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17:46:03 <sukhe> I asked because it didn't seem to work. trying once again since I reverted some other files
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17:48:07 <aleth> sukhe: Yes, that should work. 
17:48:18 <aleth> I think...
17:49:49 <sukhe> ok trying
17:50:06 <clokep_work> I started adding Skype buddy requests last night.
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17:51:33 <aleth> sukhe: by the way, whenever you say something "doesn't work", a pastebin is useful ;)
17:52:12 <sukhe> I am going to get you that when I am sure I am doing the right thing!
17:52:46 <sukhe> come to think of it, I should have picked the unpack, add, pack approach
17:52:51 <sukhe> heh
17:53:04 <aleth> What is that approach?
17:53:09 <aleth> Where would you add it?
17:54:14 <sukhe> so the approach was to unpack the archive (after running mach package), adding the directory and file defaults/profile/foobar manually, packing the archive again
17:54:16 <clokep_work> aleth: Post build you unpack the installers/zip file...e
17:54:27 <clokep_work> sukhe: Does that work for Windows?
17:54:32 <clokep_work> Or do you guys not care about Windows?
17:54:48 <aleth> sukhe, clokep_work: that's not going to work either if support for defaults/profile is removed, so it's just added hassle for no gain
17:54:59 <sukhe> clokep_work: actually, I am not sure about Windows. I didn't check... it does work on Linux
17:55:36 <sukhe> and yeah, we do care about Windows. not yet, but eventually
17:55:50 <aleth> anyway, NON_OMNIJAR_FILES should work.
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18:00:04 <clokep_work> So I can laugh at you all getting shitfaced.
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18:00:57 <sukhe> clokep_work: !?
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18:02:53 <clokep_work> Oops.
18:02:54 <clokep_work> Hah.
18:03:08 <clokep_work> Not meant for this room. :-D
18:03:11 <sukhe> :P
18:03:19 <flo-retina> clokep_work: a bit strange out of context ;)
18:03:40 <clokep_work> flo-retina: My friend got a new job. She suggested having a party. . . I apparently hit "Ctrl+Tab" at the wrong time. :)
18:04:55 <clokep_work> aleth: So I have the little panels showing up and never disappearing for links still.
18:05:00 <clokep_work> Is this just the same bug we've always seen?
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18:05:07 <aleth> It could be.
18:05:19 <aleth> The tab switching issue should be fixed now.
18:09:06 <clokep_work> Yeah....hmm.
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