#instantbird log on 12 13 2014

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00:02:11 <aleth> this is why doing UI stuff with addons is painful :=/
00:02:38 <clokep> Yes. :(
00:02:54 <aleth> try this https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Using_the_Stylesheet_Service
00:03:29 <aleth> hmm maybe not
00:03:45 <aleth> I meant https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/API/StyleSheetList
00:03:48 <clokep> Someone somewhere has an extension to do this.
00:03:50 <clokep> It's likely me. :-D
00:04:01 <clokep> Oooo vertical tabs likely does it!!!
00:04:14 <aleth> I've done it in some extensions too, but I can't remember how exactly offhand :D
00:04:27 <clokep> aleth: https://bitbucket.org/clokep/vertical-tabs/src/08cede65f65eba383fdc847e5fc57ab5bba7ea0f/chrome.manifest?at=default#cl-7
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00:04:45 <aleth> ah, you're not making it restartless then
00:04:56 <clokep> OH DAMMIT
00:04:59 <clokep> I am. :(
00:05:11 <clokep> Does that not work?
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00:05:36 <aleth> I doubt it does
00:06:07 <Mook_as> clokep:  https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Chrome_Registration#style  ?
00:06:08 <aleth> here's one way to tweak CSS rules https://bitbucket.org/aleth/mathjax-addon/src/e7ddef33088541b2df553c7dd18bc606384595fd/bootstrap.js?at=master#cl-81
00:06:11 <Mook_as> dunno if that works restartless
00:06:13 <clokep> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Add-ons/How_to_convert_an_overlay_extension_to_restartless might be helpful. :)
00:06:24 <Mook_as> oh, you found the thing in vertical-tabs
00:07:10 <aleth> huh, that's a remarkably useful mdn page
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00:17:35 <clokep> I feel like every time I sit down to develop I hit build issues. :(
00:17:41 <clokep> Frustrating.
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00:19:06 <aleth> new bustage? I thought we hadn't been broken in a while now
00:20:08 <clokep> No.
00:20:20 <clokep> I'm getting some weird "Too many open files" error
00:20:23 <clokep> From client.mk.
00:21:57 <clokep> I'm getting a str is null error in normalize as part of IRC when using an extension.
00:22:06 <clokep> So I wanted to build, ensure I'm on the newest code, ya know?
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00:24:25 <aleth> bah, how annoying
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00:26:05 <clokep> Seems like a restart fixed it?
00:31:34 <clokep> aleth: Also, we have no idea if Windows is busted for IB. :(
00:31:40 * clokep gets out his Mac.
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00:38:01 * clokep does the dance of pushing code to a repo so he can download it somewhere else...
00:47:48 <aleth> that kind of thing always feels like filling in forms...
00:48:21 <clokep> aleth: ARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
00:48:29 <clokep> It was the aMessage.nickname no longer existing.
00:48:31 <clokep> It's now "origin"
00:48:37 <aleth> argh!
00:49:19 <clokep> :'( That's frustrating.
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01:08:11 <clokep> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Chrome_Registration#Instructions_supported_in_bootstrapped_add_ons ah, style isn't supported
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01:22:18 <clokep_work> :-D
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04:24:03 <instant-buildbot> build #1256 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1256
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05:08:04 <instant-buildbot> build #2460 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2460
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07:04:26 <instant-buildbot> build #152 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/152
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09:47:56 <aleth_web> flo-retina: Can you stop updates for today's nightly, OSX is extremely crashy.
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09:48:24 <flo-retina> aleth_web: should I try it first, or just take your word for it?
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09:52:04 <flo-retina> aleth_web: disabled!
09:59:43 <hadi> off-topic: speaking of OSX,  I am tempted to run a hackintosh...  is it a bad idea y/n?
10:02:42 <flo-retina> hadi: only you can decide; it worked quite way for nhnt11 apparently; it didn't work for me, but I tried several years ago...
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10:03:52 <hadi> flo-retina:  If i get it working, I suppose The only thing that i'd be missing is apple support?
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10:48:07 <nhnt11-phone> hadi: Getting /everything/ to work isn't easy ;)
10:48:24 <nhnt11-phone> I would worry about that before apple support.
10:48:32 <nhnt11-phone> Anyway, off-topic
10:49:07 <hadi> b-)))
10:52:25 <flo-retina> nhnt11-phone: I thought you were offline?
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11:08:33 <nhnt11-phone> flo-retina: well yeah, I just popped in because i had a minute
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12:50:14 <hadi> oh no, My instantbird doesn't output any sounds...
12:50:21 <hadi> Suddently
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13:44:37 <aleth> Is anyone else getting a ton of build emails from bolt-ci?
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14:17:50 <hadi> test
14:17:59 <hadi> oh sound problem solved
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14:50:47 <clokep> flo-retina: Those emails aren't our infrastructure at all, right?
14:53:15 <aleth> no, it's something in China
14:53:24 <aleth> I wonder what they're doing...
14:55:12 <clokep> It's annoying. :P
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17:12:02 <clokep> Boo, no aleth?
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18:18:48 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Other bug 1111235 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
18:18:49 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1111235 min, --, ---, nhnt11, ASSI, Debug log tab has hard coded labels
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18:47:43 <clokep_work> aleth: Ping
18:47:51 <aleth> clokep_work: yo
18:48:25 <clokep_work> Uhhh so I have no idea how to send you what I want to send, one second.
18:50:38 <clokep_work> aleth: http://i.imgur.com/9aD0Jsn.png
18:51:45 <clokep_work> I added a panel to my stats extension. :)
18:51:48 <clokep_work> Makes some plots.
18:51:49 <aleth> ooh, you automated /version? :D
18:51:54 <clokep_work> (I reloaded it in Firefox after exporting the version.)
18:51:58 <clokep_work> Oh...you weren't at the summit...
18:52:06 <clokep_work> Yeah I had started it a LONG time ago. Got it "working" at the Summit.
18:52:12 <clokep_work> Now I made it pretty yesterday/today.
18:52:38 <aleth> Surprised there's still so many chatzilla users.
18:52:54 <clokep_work> A lot of people love it.
18:53:01 <clokep_work> So that's #instantbird and #maildev.
18:53:33 <aleth> pretty :-)
18:53:48 <clokep_work> I'm surprised at how much info some of the titles give. :-\ Some give you down to the OS & Service Pack #.
18:53:51 <clokep_work> Which is scary IMO.
18:54:18 <aleth> Yes, that seems a bit thoughtless
18:54:29 <clokep_work> I need to figure out the most "popular" channels and run it on those...
18:54:50 <aleth> Have you tried #developers?
18:54:52 <clokep_work> I think that's returned from a list response...so I need to parse that and auto-join them or something.
18:55:00 <clokep_work> Not yet. I wanted to make sure the code worked first. :-D
18:55:19 <aleth> Right, we store the participant number in the roomInfo
18:55:46 <clokep_work> Oh, do we? :)
18:57:44 <aleth> The results on freenode would probably look a bit different. More mIRC I guess
18:57:52 <clokep_work> I have no idea.
18:58:06 <clokep_work> I've never seen source for client #s for IRC, not sure if you have.
18:58:14 * clokep_work will write a blog post at some point.
18:59:01 <aleth> no, it's just that those seem to be mentioned often... irssi/xchat for Linux and mIRC for windows
18:59:13 <aleth> They've been around for a long time.
18:59:18 <clokep_work> Yeah.
18:59:54 <clokep_work> aleth: Btw I get the "family" by going up to the first space, that seemed sane to me?
19:00:04 <aleth> Yes, definitely
19:00:29 * aleth googles bip
19:00:49 <aleth> ah, a proxy
19:01:07 <clokep_work> Yeah.
19:01:21 <clokep_work> A weekend is probably not the best time to run this anyway.
19:01:31 <aleth> Good time to test though ;)
19:03:27 <aleth> in other news, MSVC 2010 support is going away next week
19:03:38 <clokep_work> I saw.
19:03:52 <aleth> Which probably means Even needs to do more than kick the build machine power switch
19:04:06 <clokep_work> I should probably try building w/ MSVC 2013 tomorrow. :-\
19:09:28 * clokep starts the installer
19:18:23 <aleth> I guess I should write some tests...
19:31:44 <clokep> ;)
19:32:07 <clokep> I'll try to review that patch again soon.
19:32:11 <clokep> Need to iron a few shirts first.
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20:41:36 * clokep_work pushed another attempt at TB 31 purplexpcom.
20:41:46 <clokep_work> I have some hope for this one. :)
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21:43:40 <clokep_work> aleth: Any thoughts of what I should do next for Skype? Did you run into any issues in particular?
21:45:06 <aleth> I didn't see any issues apart from the TypeErrors, it's just incomplete
21:45:17 <clokep_work> Yeah, what incomplete part is next? :-D
21:45:25 <clokep_work> I should look into those type errors though.
21:45:25 <aleth> Disconnect would be nice ;)
21:45:29 <clokep_work> Hah.
21:45:33 <clokep_work> That's a legit request. :)
21:46:07 <aleth> then maybe add contact and requestBuddyInfo?
21:46:46 <clokep_work> requestBuddyInfo?
21:46:51 <clokep_work> It already gets the profiles...?
21:47:03 <aleth> The tooltip is pretty bare
21:47:04 <clokep_work> It might just be a matter of returnign the tooltip info then.
21:47:12 <aleth> yeah
21:47:13 <clokep_work> There's not much to put in it IIRC.
21:48:05 <aleth> Should be easy then :-)
21:52:40 <aleth> Oh, and the contact list entry for a contact shows the nickname (?) instead of the contact name.
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21:53:38 <clokep_work> aleth: I already added that.
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21:55:44 <EionRobb> you can put the mood into the tooltip?
21:55:52 <EionRobb> and you could get MUC's going? :)
21:56:15 <aleth> run_test is not defined? WTF
21:57:01 <clokep_work> EionRobb: I think I'd like to do everything besides MUCs first.
21:57:56 <aleth> Would be a good idea to land it before adding MUCs
21:58:01 <aleth> Otherwise it'll be a monster patch
21:58:05 <EionRobb> getting the /me's work is next on my agenda
21:58:14 <clokep_work> aleth: I'm not sure. But I was trying to think of that too.
21:58:29 <EionRobb> its a monster patch either way :)
21:58:37 <clokep_work> aleth: It might make sense to land it "soon", btu preferred off.
21:58:48 <aleth> I agree!
21:58:48 <clokep_work> OK, disconnect works.
21:59:32 <EionRobb> offline message history?
22:00:02 <aleth> Does Skype have typing notifications?
22:00:05 <clokep_work> I don't really see how that fits into the UI.
22:00:06 <EionRobb> yep
22:00:06 <clokep_work> aleth: Already done.
22:00:18 <aleth> neat
22:00:39 <EionRobb> clokep_work: how do other prpls do it when you get given the messages you received when you were offline when you connect
22:04:22 <EionRobb> (and do you not call that offline message history? :) )
22:06:44 <clokep_work> EionRobb: It just puts them in the conversation, but requesting offline messages sounds like it'll show me things I've already read on other computres.
22:07:44 <EionRobb> I kinda prefer it that way, but it's possible to not show things you've already read by looking at the 'messageconsumptionhorizon'
22:07:54 <clokep> Interesting.
22:08:11 <clokep> IMO it'd be best to download all of them but throw the read ones ONLY into the logs. :)
22:08:15 <EionRobb> oh yeah, and that messageconsumptionhorizon should be updated when you read a message too (I haven't quite finished that bit either, still commented out)
22:09:20 <clokep> Fun. :)
22:10:31 <clokep_work> Yeah I'm not even sure *how* we'd update that.
22:10:40 <clokep_work> I think I'd have to add another signal for prpls to mark something as "read".
22:11:18 <aleth> clokep_work: There's also a flag you should set for delayed messages
22:11:55 <aleth> Maybe that's enough?
22:12:09 <clokep_work> aleth: I'm not sure I believe you! Is that on prplIMessage?
22:12:18 <aleth> yes
22:12:46 <clokep_work> aleth: Do we *do* anything with it though?
22:13:22 <aleth> Logging takes account of it
22:13:40 <aleth> XMPP and Twitter set it
22:14:02 <clokep> Yeah, interesting.
22:15:01 <aleth> Well, logging will take account of it one fine day when nhnt11 lands his gsoc stuff ;)
22:16:01 <clokep_work> What's logging do differently for it?
22:17:40 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Do statuses have a message with them at all?
22:17:48 <aleth> If you have delayed messages, the conv start date is later than the time of the first message in the log
22:18:21 <EionRobb> clokep_work: just the mood, but that comes from the buddy info request, rather than attached to the UserPresence update
22:18:31 <aleth> Can't remember how exactly that was resolved
22:18:33 <clokep_work> OK, so "not really"
22:21:31 <clokep> aleth: It'll be easier to collaborate if we land it earlier too
22:22:45 <aleth> Definitely, and improvements will be patches on BMO rather than in your mq, much easier to review
22:23:14 <aleth> Bah, my tests keep passing when they shouldn't
22:24:12 <clokep_work> aleth: Hmm...soooooo....that "no element found" error seems to be from the html parser.
22:26:05 <aleth> ah, it's because they are not running at all :-S
22:26:52 <clokep> :-D
22:26:59 <clokep> I did that recently.
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23:12:13 <clokep_work> aleth: Is there a generic description of fakelag somewhere/
23:12:31 <aleth> no
23:12:38 <clokep_work> OK. :)
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23:49:57 * clokep just finished writing a blog post.
23:50:00 <clokep> Well minus the results.
23:50:05 <clokep> I'll need to run that code during the week.
23:53:01 <Mook> If this is the IRC /version thing, you might need to merge the two ChatZillas on the lower graph
23:53:31 <Mook> (dunno if you want to keep Thunderbird and Instantbird separate; both ways are interesting for different reasons)
23:55:31 <clokep> Mook: Ah, looks like I need a toLowerCse in there?
23:55:40 <clokep> And I plan to keep Instantbird and Thunderbird separate.
23:55:42 <Mook> maybe!
23:56:00 <clokep> Good catch, thanks! :)
23:56:14 <clokep> Luckily I have a way to export data, so I can always reprocess. :)
23:56:24 <Mook> there are also two bips (0.8.8, 0.8.9)
23:56:35 <clokep> I'm unsure what to do about that.
23:56:53 <clokep> I was thinking of stripping off /[\d\.]+$/
23:57:57 <Mook> unrelated: I'm hoping to get ZNC up and running at some point... but trying to figure out how to encrypt the connection to ZNC.
23:58:45 <clokep_work> Fallen|away might know, he runs his own ZNC server.
23:59:36 <Mook> Ah, looks like there's stuff I can set in the configs
23:59:46 <Mook> Now I just need a cert ;)