#instantbird log on 11 29 2014

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00:24:42 <psykotika> how do i enable SASL access for irc?
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00:33:58 <aleth> psykotika: You don't have to enable it, it's automatic
00:34:22 <psykotika> aleth, can i use it to connect to the freenode hidden service using tor?
00:34:49 <aleth> you can certainly use it to connect to freenode
00:34:56 <aleth> I don't know about the tor specifics
00:35:35 <aleth> But it should work.
00:37:28 <psykotika> ok, thanks
00:41:24 <psykotika> im getting this error from the error console: Timestamp: 11/28/2014 06:36:07 PM
00:41:26 <psykotika> Warning: The server does not support SASL PLAIN authentication.
00:41:28 <psykotika> Source File: resource:///modules/ircSASL.jsm
00:41:30 <psykotika> Line: 59
00:41:32 <psykotika> Source Code:
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00:41:34 <psykotika> prpl-irc: ircSASL.commands[904]
00:41:39 <psykotika> though freenode staff says the server support PLAIN authentication
00:41:54 <psykotika> and it works with other clients
00:44:48 <psykotika> ah nm, i was using the wrong nick
00:44:51 <psykotika> it works now
00:44:54 <psykotika> ty very much
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04:31:53 <instant-buildbot> build #1592 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1592
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04:57:21 <instant-buildbot> build #1242 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1242
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05:07:44 <instant-buildbot> build #2442 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2442
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08:22:17 <instant-buildbot> build #138 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/138
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09:45:57 <flo-retina> looks like the misleading "The server does not support SASL PLAIN authentication." error message actually confused someone ;)
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12:30:40 <aleth> flo-retina: that's true, the error message is wrong.
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13:14:34 <instantbot> New Chat Core - IRC bug 1106246 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
13:14:35 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1106246 min, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Improve SASL error messages
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17:17:04 <nhnt11> Hello
17:17:08 <nhnt11> Quiet today :)
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17:34:28 <sukhe> hello #instantbird. two questions related to Tor Messenger:
17:35:13 <sukhe> 1. if you remember the certificate issues, we want users to be able to connect to OFTC and jabber.ccc.de. we decided to ship the requisite root certs, but instead of doing that, we thought of shipping a populated cert_override.txt
17:35:35 <sukhe> this file has to be part of the profile directory. so the question is, how do we include this as part of the build process so that this file is copied to every profile that is created?
17:35:53 <sukhe> another way of doing this: create an extension that just copies this to ProfD
17:41:43 <aleth> sukhe: Have you asked on #security what the best way to ship extra certs is?
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18:17:40 <sukhe> aleth: I didn't ask directly but browsing around mozilla.dev.tech.crypto and others places suggested updating certdata.txt -- which is what we were doing. but that involves shipping the root certs, which makes us uncomfortable
18:18:24 <sukhe> oops
18:29:56 <sukhe> I will also put the second question, in case someone wants to answer this: since Tor Messenger is a fork of Instantbird, what kind of branding changes we have to make to ensure that it doesn't conflict with Instantbird? like in the case of Firefox, we can't release something with the official branding
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19:20:57 <sukhe> 13:17:37 < sukhe> aleth: I didn't ask directly but browsing around mozilla.dev.tech.crypto and others places suggested updating certdata.txt -- which is what we were doing. but that involves shipping the root certs, which makes us uncomfortable
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20:10:02 <aleth> sukhe: This should explain how you ship that file http://mike.kaply.com/2012/03/30/customizing-firefox-default-profiles/
20:11:44 <aleth> sukhe: By "branding" do you just mean changing the icon etc? Or do you want to allowe Tor-IB and normal-IB to run side by side without using --no-remote?
20:16:10 <aleth> sukhe: By the way, please file bugs to improve the default security settings for IRC, XMPP etc. if you already have patches for that
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23:12:54 <instantbot> New Chat Core - XMPP bug 1106328 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
23:12:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1106328 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, JS-XMPP never sends typing notifications
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23:19:27 <nhnt11> aleth: looks like your patches work
23:19:36 <aleth> :-)
23:19:38 * nhnt11 tried everything he could think of
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23:23:11 <nhnt11> aleth: I don't really know what that "busyUI" thing is. Is it a flag that was used in Fx that we don't need because we don't have a case where we /don't/ want to display the status?
23:23:27 <aleth> nhnt11: Yes
23:23:31 <nhnt11> ok.
23:23:38 <nhnt11> I saw your comment about why you're keeping it
23:23:40 <nhnt11> cool
23:23:45 <nhnt11> in a comment I mean
23:23:52 <aleth> nhnt11: The only place FX uses it is http://dxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/browser/base/content/browser.js#4151
23:23:57 <nhnt11> Thanks
23:26:27 <nhnt11> aleth: Just to be clear, bug 1096590 just ensures that the typing status message is restored after moving away from a link right?
23:26:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1096590 nor, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Persist typing notifications over link displays in status panel
23:26:42 <aleth> nhnt11: Yes, exactly. Something flo asked for...
23:26:55 <nhnt11> Alright. That makes sense.
23:27:09 <nhnt11> Just wanted to make sure "over link displays" didn't mean literally OVER them, as in overlap
23:27:18 <aleth> No, that would be ugly
23:27:19 <nhnt11> because links are still given priority
23:27:35 <nhnt11> Overlap in the sense, prioritize them over the link
23:27:39 <nhnt11> sorry, overlap is a bad word
23:27:50 <nhnt11> more "wrong" than bad
23:27:51 <nhnt11> meh
23:28:01 <nhnt11> Anyway, looks good
23:28:09 <aleth> yes, the links win.
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23:30:29 <aleth> Thanks for the testing!
23:30:38 <nhnt11> np
23:33:06 <nhnt11> aleth: So I kinda dislike that === here: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8530412&action=diff#a/im/content/conversation.xml_sec3
23:33:18 <aleth> It's not strictly speaking needed
23:33:22 <nhnt11> What about just adding a "force" parameter to updateTyping?
23:33:38 * nhnt11 thinks that would be easier to understand
23:33:41 <nhnt11> your call.
23:33:45 <aleth> I'm OK with that.
23:36:04 <nhnt11> Great, that would be better I think :)
23:36:48 <aleth> Yes, good idea
23:50:53 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 1096590 from --- to FIXED.
23:50:54 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 1105871 from --- to FIXED.
23:50:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1105871 nor, --, 1.6, aleth, RESO FIXED, "Typing" status panel not cleared if a different tab is selected
23:50:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1096590 nor, --, 1.6, aleth, RESO FIXED, Persist typing notifications over link displays in status panel