#instantbird log on 11 23 2014

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00:29:30 <indolering> Having trouble logging into ZNC bouncer.
00:29:42 <indolering> Password keeps getting rejected.
00:29:50 <indolering> 1.5 and nightly.
00:30:10 <aleth> We should really write a help page for users with bouncers...
00:31:08 <aleth> Where did you put your password?
00:31:44 <aleth> I forget, does ZNC require that you set the IRC username (not the same as the nick!)?
00:31:57 <indolering> Accoung -> general -> password
00:32:02 <indolering> I set them the same.
00:32:45 <indolering> https://gist.github.com/indolering/e29b9cb3639de7d10f56
00:32:49 <indolering> ^Debug log
00:34:43 <indolering> aleth: I'm using self-signed cert....
00:34:51 <indolering> But I added it to the trust base so.
00:34:57 <aleth> You set them the same in ZNC?
00:35:07 <indolering> The pass?
00:35:14 <aleth> the username and the nickname
00:35:19 <indolering> Yes.
00:35:33 <indolering> Is that a bad idea?
00:36:01 <aleth> No idea, but I suspect you have to set the userName pref for that account
00:36:22 <aleth> Type "/about config" or Preferences->Advanced->Config editor
00:37:13 <indolering> Okay
00:38:05 <aleth> Then search for "account" and find the config entries for the IRC account
00:38:42 <aleth> ie. figure out number of that account
00:38:48 <indolering> Got it.
00:39:28 <aleth> Now from the context menu, you want to add a new pref, messenger.account.account4.options.userName
00:39:35 <indolering> messenger.account.account3.userName;indolering?
00:39:56 <aleth> Right. I think you need the .options, but try it and see.
00:40:14 <indolering> It has messenger.account.account3.name;indolering@104.236.55.109
00:40:37 <aleth> No, you have to set a new pref. It won't already be there.
00:40:48 <indolering> Done
00:40:54 <indolering> messenger.account.account3.userName;indolering
00:41:13 <indolering> Same error
00:41:16 <aleth> I think you need messenger.account.account3.options.userName
00:42:20 <aleth> We've been meaning to write an addon that does this kind of stuff automatically for ZNC users...
00:42:49 <indolering> Nope
00:43:14 <aleth> You mean it didn't work?
00:43:14 <indolering> messenger.account.account3.options.userName;indolering
00:43:16 <indolering> ?
00:43:21 <aleth> Yes, exactly
00:43:24 <indolering> Yeah, still throwing error.
00:43:30 <aleth> What does the debug log look like now?
00:44:09 <aleth> Also, try updating the nightly just so we're on the same page.
00:44:31 <indolering> https://gist.github.com/indolering/e29b9cb3639de7d10f56
00:44:37 <indolering> comment
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00:46:43 <indole> Okay, instantbird nightly
00:46:45 <indole> messenger.account.account3.options.userName;indolering
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00:48:08 <indole> aleth: Just added another comment to https://gist.github.com/indolering/e29b9cb3639de7d10f56
00:48:10 <aleth> indolering: argh, I think it should be messenger.account.account3.options.username
00:48:33 <aleth> seems like it may be case sensitive
00:48:56 <aleth> sorry.
00:49:05 <indole> boom
00:49:09 <indole> Works :)
00:49:17 <aleth> OK :)
00:49:19 <indole> Yeah, where is the wiki?
00:49:33 <aleth> https://wiki.instantbird.org/Main_Page
00:49:50 <aleth> But really, we need to make it easier to set the username pref for bouncer users.
00:50:11 <indole> Yeah.
00:51:23 <indole> Do you have a preference for where I should write this up or?
00:52:42 <aleth> The problem is the Wiki is really currently for developers, not users, as you can tell from the content
00:53:12 <indole> Uhh, you have a spam problem too.
00:53:36 <aleth> :-(
00:53:43 <aleth> I thought that was cleaned up recently.
00:53:47 <aleth> Seems not...
00:54:08 <indole> We use: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Extension:AkismetKlik
00:54:09 <aleth> well, recently probably being a year ago, so...
00:54:10 <indole> It helps.
00:54:13 <aleth> Thanks!
00:54:21 <indole> And it works.
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00:54:54 <aleth> If you'd like to add a page, link to it from here for now https://wiki.instantbird.org/edit/Instantbird:related_links?section=6
00:58:44 <aleth> We should probably just move everything on the wiki that's still useful to MDN.
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01:06:52 <indole> aleth I'll let you do the honors, I'm guessing you will want to clean this up: https://wiki.instantbird.org/Bouncers
01:07:15 <aleth> indole: Thanks!
01:07:39 <aleth> Will come in useful next time :)
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01:30:50 <indolering> Can you hide or ignore the join messages?
01:35:52 <aleth> Not conveniently, that's bug 954662
01:35:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954662 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Join/part messages should be handled by imConversations.js.
01:36:26 <aleth> You can certainly change the message theme to hide system messages altogether though
01:37:27 <aleth> Or write an add-on that hides join/part messages I guess ;)
01:37:39 <indolering> But Freenode initiates a new chat tab.
01:37:56 <aleth> What do you mean?
01:38:04 <aleth> Each channel has its own tab
01:38:15 <indolering> kornbluth.freenode.net
01:38:28 <indolering> Opens up, spits out Freenode news
01:38:39 <indolering> Not sure what it is called.
01:38:44 <aleth> Only if you've enabled the server tab in the preferences
01:39:07 <aleth> (account preferences)
01:39:39 <aleth> Hmm, maybe you're seeing it because you're connected through a bouncer
01:39:45 <indolering> Ahh, no.
01:39:51 <indolering> It was my mistake.
01:39:51 <aleth> So Instantbird thinks the server is ZNC
01:40:08 <indolering> No, I had it turned on for some reason.
01:40:08 <aleth> So it can't hide the Freenode news ;)
01:40:16 <aleth> OK
01:40:27 <indolering> Works fine on ZNC.
01:40:50 <indolering> thanks
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04:01:40 <instant-buildbot> build #2433 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2433
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04:25:25 <instant-buildbot> build #1586 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1586
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04:47:51 <instant-buildbot> build #1236 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1236
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08:16:25 <instant-buildbot> build #132 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/132
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14:31:46 <AR45> Hello
14:32:05 <AR45> I would like to contribute.
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14:43:54 <clokep> AR45: Hello.
14:43:59 <clokep> Oh, he bounced already...
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14:44:34 <aleth> Let's get him back ;)
14:44:47 <aleth> Hi AR45 :)
14:45:23 <aleth> Hmm, maybe his IRC client doesn't do invites :P
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14:48:45 <clokep> Hello AR45.
14:48:54 <AR45> Hello
14:49:25 <clokep> AR45: I'd suggest finding something that you'd like to fix and asking us about it. There's also a list of "starter" bugs somewhere.
14:51:17 <aleth> Or if you have some particular area of interest, we can suggest things
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15:23:50 <aleth> Looks like OSX is busted
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16:10:38 <Defman> Stop right there criminal OSX!
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16:15:26 <aleth> It surrendered during packaging.
16:15:38 <aleth> Bug 1096778
16:15:40 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1096778 nor, --, Thunderbird 36.0, mkmelin+mozilla, REOP, Include browser-element.xpt that defines the nsIBrowserElementAPI interface
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