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00:09:00 <-- Bollebib has quit (Connection closed) 00:09:48 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: Leaving) 00:10:02 <clokep> To be clear that's "test" not "eat". 00:32:35 <-- Armada has quit (Connection closed) 00:40:38 <-- sherief has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 00:43:40 <EionRobb> clokep: I was hoping you were inviting me to estimate things :( 00:47:55 <clokep> EionRobb: We can do that too, I have a jar with some coins in it, we can estimate the amount of money? 00:48:05 <EionRobb> :D 00:48:09 <EionRobb> do I have you on the skypes? 00:48:16 <clokep> I doubt it. 00:48:29 <clokep> I don't even know if I have skype installer 00:48:34 <clokep> s/er/ed/ 00:48:40 <EionRobb> there's a lot of people who could be you 00:48:55 <clokep> The name I use is clokep. :) 00:48:56 <EionRobb> are you Troy, US? 00:49:05 <clokep> Uhhh possibly my old name! 00:53:03 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 00:56:11 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: :tuiQ) 01:20:28 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 01:44:58 <-- myk has quit (Connection closed) 01:45:07 --> myk has joined #instantbird 01:55:08 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 02:06:06 <-- Mook_as has quit (Client exited) 02:13:42 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 02:16:51 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Other bug 1100717 filed by robert.strong.bugs@gmail.com. 02:16:52 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100717 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Remove use of FindSMProgramsDir macro in installer.nsi, uninstaller.nsi, and shared.nsh 02:17:59 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 03:47:09 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 04:25:51 <instant-buildbot> build #1579 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1579 04:32:33 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 04:36:44 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 04:45:40 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 04:55:10 <instant-buildbot> build #1230 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1230 04:58:26 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 05:00:09 <instant-buildbot> build #2426 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2426 05:22:33 --> Mook has joined #instantbird 05:26:59 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 05:27:03 --> Even has joined #instantbird 05:27:03 * ChanServ sets mode +o Even 05:44:13 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 05:44:49 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 05:50:26 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:51:05 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 05:51:45 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 05:54:02 --> myk has joined #instantbird 05:59:13 --> Widdershins has joined #instantbird 06:00:35 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:01:56 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 06:12:02 <-- Mook has quit (Client exited) 06:26:06 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 06:28:10 <instant-buildbot> build #126 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/126 06:37:21 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:37:27 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 06:40:30 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 06:47:13 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 06:55:24 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 07:07:55 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 07:10:09 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 07:16:57 <flo-retina> bug 1100717 is the first time rstrong files a bug for us, right? :) 07:16:59 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1100717 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Remove use of FindSMProgramsDir macro in installer.nsi, uninstaller.nsi, and shared.nsh 07:18:13 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 07:30:13 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 07:42:12 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 08:06:53 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 08:11:54 <-- Widdershins has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 08:35:37 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 09:24:30 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 09:24:30 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 09:42:59 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 09:52:28 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 09:57:35 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 10:00:44 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:10:46 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:10:59 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 10:10:59 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 10:26:29 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 10:38:07 <-- sonny has quit (Connection closed) 10:39:20 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:11:23 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 11:18:04 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:20:37 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:20:37 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:28:22 <clokep> flo-retina: I think so! I'm honestly not entirely sure who he is, just that i recognize the name. :) 11:28:37 <clokep> Do you have any idea how painful that bug will be? I try not to crack open the nsi files... 11:33:11 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:34:39 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 11:37:30 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 11:49:38 <flo-retina> clokep: he's the guy in charge of platform integration for toolkit/Firefox, and more specifically he's doing all the installer/updater work 11:49:54 <flo-retina> it's nice that he knows we exist and looks at our code to see what needs fixing :) 11:52:14 <clokep> I suspect he did a search in c-c and saw we used something, but still nice, yes. :) 11:53:23 <flo-retina> clokep: still means he knows that "im/" bugs go in the "Instantbird" product ;) 11:54:32 <clokep> :) True. 11:57:53 --> flo-linux has joined #instantbird 11:59:23 --> Armada has joined #instantbird 12:03:10 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 12:03:10 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 12:08:31 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:24:09 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 12:26:54 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: :tuiQ) 12:42:50 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited) 12:57:41 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:57:41 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:07:48 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:08:18 --> aleth_dev has joined #instantbird 13:08:37 <-- aleth_dev has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 13:08:48 --> aleth_dev has joined #instantbird 13:09:06 <aleth_dev> IB on Linux 64 is incredibly crashy :-S 13:09:37 <aleth_dev> And that's after running into the password bug (I wonder if that could land, given clokep's r+?) 13:10:26 <clokep_work> aleth_dev: Well we can. But you had mentioned florian wanted to look at it. ;) 13:11:09 <aleth_dev> That was a question for him ;) I just forgot to ping flo-retina 13:11:52 --> sherief has joined #instantbird 13:11:54 <aleth_dev> There's something wrong with the context menus too (for which I'd blame KDE, but Firefox seems to be fine) 13:14:42 <aleth_dev> Is it a known bug that crash reports don't get submitted, or just a local issue? 13:18:58 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 13:21:07 * clokep_work doesn't know. 13:28:38 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 13:29:15 <flo-retina> aleth_dev: is the background of your context menu transparent? 13:29:20 <aleth_dev> flo-retina: Yes 13:29:26 <flo-retina> Even (also using KDE) complained about that a while ago 13:29:40 <flo-retina> aleth_dev: my guess is we need to add/port a background CSS rule somewhere 13:29:46 <aleth_dev> And interestingly, if you once get to the point where it is no longer transparent, IB becomes stable 13:29:53 <aleth_dev> I doubt this is a CSS issue. 13:31:24 <aleth_dev> My guess was some startup issue (something going async and us not waiting on it?) 13:44:09 <aleth_dev> bug 578440 maybe? 13:44:12 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=578440 maj, --, seamonkey2.1a3, philip.chee, RESO FIXED, Use <menupopup> instead of <popup> 13:46:10 <aleth_dev> seems too long ago though... 13:49:56 <flo-retina> quite possible 13:52:17 <aleth_dev> Hmm yes, we do still seem to have some popup elements 13:54:49 <aleth_dev> Not in most of the places I saw transparent menus though 13:55:55 <flo-retina> ah, I thought it was only one place (the context menu) 13:56:10 <aleth_dev> No, I've also seen it in the normal menu 14:08:45 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 14:17:13 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 14:30:15 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 14:35:17 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:55:40 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 14:56:46 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 15:01:18 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 15:25:01 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 33.1.1/20141113143407]) 15:37:27 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 15:44:36 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 15:50:17 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:59:54 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 16:10:53 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:10:53 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 16:11:30 <-- aleth_dev has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:18:57 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:38:39 <-- rosonline has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:52:44 --> myk has joined #instantbird 16:54:30 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:54:41 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 17:01:10 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 17:04:47 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:10:31 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 17:11:09 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 17:11:27 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 17:15:05 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 17:15:05 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 17:15:34 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:17:30 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:20:41 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:22:03 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 17:27:31 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 17:36:00 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:52:11 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:53:32 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:54:14 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 17:57:34 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:00:50 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 18:04:30 <Mook_as> Hi! Dumb question: is anything happening with bug 1092701 (gtalk/ssl in nightlies)? 18:04:33 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1092701 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Cannot connect to Google Talk 18:06:03 <aleth> We're still hoping for Google to do something about it afaik 18:06:22 <aleth> The details are in the bug. 18:06:24 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 18:11:55 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:12:35 <Mook_as> Yep, I'm CCed. Just that it's been a week, but prodding people via bugmail seemed to be too invasive. 18:17:19 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 18:17:34 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Didn't I needinfo a bunch of people? 18:18:00 <clokep_work> Huh...I guess I never hit submit? :-S 18:18:03 <clokep_work> I wonder where that tab went... 18:19:08 <clokep_work> Mook_as: I'll poke people today. 18:19:15 <Mook_as> Thanks :) 18:19:49 <Mook_as> (if I'm poking too often, I can stop, too) 18:27:50 <clokep_work> Mook_as: Not yet. 18:46:11 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:25:46 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:30:42 <clokep_work> Meh just ran into the "people not on your buddy list have no status" issue. 19:31:28 <EionRobb> how does IB handle those type of buddies? 19:32:30 <EionRobb> libpurple does it pretty badly (I had hoped to see a hidden group or a shadow-buddylist for 3.0) so I'm curious to know how IB does it :) 19:32:43 --> mconley_ has joined #instantbird 19:32:44 <clokep_work> EionRobb: We don't. :P That's the issue. 19:32:54 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Those are solutions we've discussed though. 19:36:11 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:36:16 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 19:46:19 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 19:46:25 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 19:52:55 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 19:53:16 <EionRobb> so the messaging side of skype4web uses hmac-sha256 hashing.... does IB have that for js-prpls (not that I'm intending on writing a js prpl just yet! :P) 19:54:34 * mconley_ is now known as mconley 19:57:03 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Ifwe can use ctypes, likely. 19:57:26 <EionRobb> it's used in aim... not sure if you have a js-prpl for that? 19:57:56 <EionRobb> also the skype4web impl is a javascript version of the hashing cipher, so I'm sure it can be done :) 19:58:00 <clokep_work> EionRobb: It is available in https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Tech/XPCOM/Reference/Interface/nsICryptoHMAC 19:58:07 <EionRobb> ah ok 19:58:17 <clokep_work> EionRobb: This mean you have docs available? ;) 19:58:26 <EionRobb> I'm 80% through the docs 19:58:31 * clokep_work suspects he's in for a late night if so... 19:58:55 <EionRobb> I have the buddy list, avatars, auth requests, sign on stuff 100% done 19:59:05 <EionRobb> but the messaging is held up by the hash 19:59:21 <EionRobb> but after that point, I have the http-long polling stuff and message send/receiving and typing notifications documented 19:59:48 <clokep_work> :) Cool. 20:00:04 <EionRobb> I'm trying to see if there's more than just Available and Invisible statuses.... nothing else is settable from the UI but it might be in the underlying 'protocol' 20:00:12 <EionRobb> it makes lots of references to msnp24 everywhere 20:00:54 <clokep_work> :) 20:01:03 <clokep_work> And to answer your question...I have like half of OSCAR done in JS. 20:01:11 <clokep_work> Well 90% of the login done. 20:01:15 <clokep_work> And only a little bit of other stuff... 20:04:30 <EionRobb> unfortunately skype4web hasn't implemented its v/v and filetransfer stuff in webrtc yet, its still a browser plugin 20:04:50 <EionRobb> https://swx.cdn.skype.com/plugin/SkypeWebPlugin.msi 20:06:14 <clokep_work> :( 20:06:22 <clokep_work> What is skype4web? 20:06:27 <clokep_work> Is that *YOUR* code or? 20:06:32 <EionRobb> nah 20:06:41 <nhnt11> This is Skype 20:06:43 <EionRobb> https://web.skype.com/ 20:06:46 <nhnt11> sorry didn't finish typing^ 20:06:48 <clokep_work> EionRobb: I'm well aware of that. :) 20:06:57 <clokep_work> I didn't know what you were specficially calling "skype4web". 20:06:57 <EionRobb> that's skype4web 20:07:04 <EionRobb> that's what they call it :) 20:07:13 <EionRobb> http://blogs.skype.com/2014/11/14/please-welcome-skype-for-web-beta/ 20:07:16 <EionRobb> ok, "skype for web" 20:07:17 <EionRobb> blah 20:07:31 <clokep_work> What's the browser plug-in use for those? 20:07:33 <nhnt11> Wait Skype for Web is already publicly available? 20:07:36 * nhnt11 didn't know 20:07:47 <clokep_work> It's in a beta. 20:07:50 <nhnt11> It's using WebRTC right? 20:07:57 <EionRobb> no, not using webrtc yet 20:08:19 <nhnt11> The blog post says "With WebRTC, there wonât be any downloads or installs â you can just get straight to your conversation." :S 20:08:29 <nhnt11> Oh 20:08:31 <nhnt11> In the future 20:08:33 <EionRobb> the sentence before :) 20:08:34 <nhnt11> Okay :) 20:09:09 <EionRobb> clokep_work: "what's the browser plug-in use for those?"? like, what protocol? 20:09:15 <nhnt11> Looks like this is coinciding with the Ib WebRTC efforts nicely :) 20:09:32 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Yeah, I assume it's just the old Skype video stuff though. 20:10:33 <EionRobb> yeah, there's an 11MiB 'SkypeCore.dll' in there that seems to be full of old skype functions... kinda looks like old skypekit 20:11:19 <clokep_work> Hahah. That's likely. 20:11:25 <EionRobb> lots of hard-coded ip addresses on port 12350 20:11:41 <EionRobb> its kinda weird seeing a skype binary that isn't obfuscaed and anti-debugged and stuff 20:12:01 <EionRobb> I wonder where the skype-open-source guys went after their blogspot blog was shut down 20:15:37 <EionRobb> lol they moved to skype-open-source2.blogspot.com 20:15:47 <clokep_work> :) 20:27:25 <clokep_work> EionRobb: Well awesome work so far. Be pretty awesome if we got this in both Pidgin and Ib. ;) 20:35:02 <EionRobb> I have to work at the moment, but give me 12 hours to get home and finish the docs and they're all yours :) 20:35:31 <clokep_work> EionRobb: But I'm about to go home! :P 20:35:38 <clokep_work> Seems like tomorrow night I won't sleep then. ;) 20:35:39 <EionRobb> off you go then :P 20:35:58 <EionRobb> start brewing up a batch of cold-brew coffee now? 20:36:35 <clokep_work> :) 20:50:19 --> instantbot has joined #instantbird 20:50:19 topic changed by fripp.mozilla.org to "Ask about Instantbird (http://instantbird.com) here!|Current version is Instantbird 1.5! :) |News: http://blog.instantbird.org/ |Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (for testing only) |IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/ |Pastebin: http://pastebin.instantbird.org/ | Bugs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org" 20:50:19 * ChanServ sets mode +v instantbot 20:54:26 --> Morian has joined #instantbird 21:02:48 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 21:19:08 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:27:42 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 21:55:07 <DGMurdockIII> My primary blog http://skype-open-source2.blogspot.ru/ was DMCA-ed, because of copyright infringement. I think, because of magnet links on patched skype binaries. 22:01:03 <EionRobb> DGMurdockIII: aren't your copy/paste keys worn out by now? 22:01:28 <nhnt11> c-c looks green enough for split logs i think 22:01:30 <nhnt11> aleth: ^ 22:01:48 <aleth> nhnt11: go for it :) 22:02:37 --> myk has joined #instantbird 22:04:37 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:04:37 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 22:14:17 <Fearful> DGMurdockIII: I'd just ignore it 22:17:54 <clokep> aleth: So thoughts on that password patch? I think we should push it. 22:18:04 <aleth> imho it's fine, but then I wrote it 22:19:17 <aleth> bah, I will have to port it to TB too 22:19:22 <clokep> :-D 22:21:10 <aleth> We're lucky it's mozilla32 not 31 ;) 22:24:15 * nhnt11 pushes to try 22:25:51 <nhnt11> FYI: https://tbpl.mozilla.org/?tree=Thunderbird-Try&rev=3c341ac9c7f9 22:36:20 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Quit: Leaving) 22:47:14 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 22:52:46 <-- Rym has quit (Connection closed) 22:52:57 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 22:55:34 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 22:57:10 --> mconley_ has joined #instantbird 22:57:16 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 22:58:11 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 22:59:11 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 22:59:13 --> mconley__ has joined #instantbird 23:01:31 --> EionRobb1 has joined #instantbird 23:01:42 <-- mconley_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:02:40 --> mconley_ has joined #instantbird 23:03:32 <-- EionRobb has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:03:47 <-- mconley__ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:07:18 <-- mconley_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:08:07 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 23:12:27 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:16:01 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 23:16:47 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 23:20:07 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 23:20:31 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 23:21:46 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 23:23:47 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:24:01 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 23:24:01 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 23:25:41 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 23:30:09 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 23:45:35 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 23:45:35 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work