#instantbird log on 11 03 2014

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04:54:10 <instant-buildbot> build #1215 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1215
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05:01:41 <instant-buildbot> build #2411 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2411
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07:06:52 <instant-buildbot> build #111 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/111
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08:04:50 <flo-retina> hmm, seems really quiet around here "early" in the European morning :-S
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08:11:14 <flo-retina> aleth: http://puu.sh/cyQZQ/654aaf140c.png <3
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10:49:57 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 1087566 from --- to FIXED.
10:49:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1087566 nor, --, 1.6, aleth, RESO FIXED, Automatically try to get your nick back if it's still in use on connecting
10:50:20 <nhnt11> aleth: Got your ping about split logs, thanks. I'll look at it in a bit, today is a holiday here :)
10:50:28 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 955536 from --- to FIXED.
10:50:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955536 enh, --, 1.6, nobody, RESO FIXED, Buddy Conversations Should Have Close/Hold Pref
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11:21:08 <flo-retina> uh, we are receiving outgoing messages? :(
11:21:28 * flo-retina should have looked at the patch before commenting
11:22:22 <aleth> it's also possible that it's me that's confused ;)
11:22:34 <flo-retina> that code is confusing
11:22:41 <aleth> yes
11:22:45 <flo-retina> I'm hoping having tests (which I haven't read yet) will contribute to clarifying it
11:22:52 <aleth> That's why I'm asking for so many extra comments...
11:23:06 <flo-retina> my Gtalk account doesn't connect
11:23:20 <aleth> someone filed that the other day
11:23:21 <flo-retina> same error as what was given in the bug that was filed during the week-end
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11:24:40 <flo-retina> anybody knows why we connect to the port 443? http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/gtalk/gtalk.js#79
11:25:00 <aleth> Try connecting to a different port with JS-XMPP and see if that helps
11:25:17 <flo-retina> I would hope the standard XMPP ports work
11:25:42 <clokep> flo-retina: No idea.
11:26:13 <flo-retina> ah, I think I know
11:26:28 <flo-retina> that's because we use the "old SSL" trick
11:26:50 <clokep> That was my only thought, but I don't really know what that means. :)
11:27:03 <clokep> There's some mentions of using that with port 443 from Pidgin when I looked the other day.
11:27:59 <flo-retina> clokep: so for gtalk we start SSL directly when opening the socket on talk.google.com, instead of doing <starttls> later which would give us a cert we won't like because it could be for a different hostname
11:28:36 <flo-retina> it could also have been to help people behind proxies
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11:29:42 <clokep> Interesting.
11:30:25 <aleth> DNS SRV workaround?
11:30:34 <flo-retina> Looks like Miranda also uses 443: https://code.google.com/p/miranda/source/detail?r=13097
11:30:38 <flo-retina> aleth: kind-of
11:30:47 <flo-retina> aleth: even with DNS SRV Gtalk would need a workaround
11:31:01 <flo-retina> aleth: because the Gtalk servers can't offer a valid cert for Google Apps accounts
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11:32:31 <flo-retina> of course GTalk accounts don't let us specify the connect options :-/
11:35:24 <clokep> aleth: You should make sure commit messages look reasonable when committing: https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/643e216d8eeb
11:36:08 <aleth> Yes, I spotted that too after landing, thanks. mq fail (I only checked the first line of each commit message)
11:36:09 <clokep> (Now I hace no idea how that sort of message was created in the first place. :) Likely a qfold)
11:36:30 <flo-retina> yes, it seems like qfold
11:36:38 <aleth> It must have been a qfold, but why there was a qfold of two bugs with the same commit message I don't know
11:37:21 <flo-retina> would that be visible in the output of |hg out| or do you have to print the log of each changeset individually to spot this before pushing?
11:38:18 <aleth> hg out doesn't show it, nor does hg log
11:38:35 <flo-retina> :(
11:39:19 <aleth> You need hg log --verbose :-(
11:39:27 <clokep> I export each changeset right after importing to ensure it looks sane. :)
11:39:30 <clokep> And I still mess up sometimes. :(
11:39:52 <aleth> I had to fix up a lot of the commit messages from the patches I imported, and I still missed it.
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11:44:28 <clokep> Chat and UI Patches? :P
11:44:31 <clokep> Interesting push.
11:45:10 <aleth> I just added patches that seemed a long way away from the still failing tests ;)
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11:47:12 <aleth> bah, there's patches in TB checkin-needed from mid-September :-S
11:48:17 <flo-retina> :(
11:50:16 <clokep> Yeah, I was continually skipping certain patches as they "scared" me.
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12:52:23 <clokep_work> Why do we get a message telling us what SSL cipher was used? :-S
12:52:28 <clokep_work> Does someone really care about that?
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12:56:15 <flo-retina> maybe people using IRC from their terminal need that info? :-P
12:57:36 <clokep_work> Ugh.
13:04:37 <flo-retina> (in case that wasn't obvious, I'm just kidding)
13:05:54 <clokep_work> Yeah I know.
13:06:03 <clokep_work> And I understood that's the reason it was being sent.
13:06:13 <clokep_work> People just need to stop doing that.
13:07:37 <aleth> It makes it look "techy" ;)
13:08:47 <aleth> more seriously, IRC doesn't really have a way of sending such info outside of messages
13:12:05 <clokep_work> Sure it does.
13:12:11 <clokep_work> It doesn't need to be a NOTICE message.
13:12:27 <clokep_work> And frankly the client should "know" that information anyway.
13:12:31 <clokep_work> It was part of the handshake. ;)
13:12:45 <aleth> Sure you could invent something, but it's not like XMPP where you could just add a node to some existing stanza
13:12:47 <clokep_work> There's no reason the server needs to send that info in a plaintext message.
13:13:34 <aleth> I agree about this particular case, no idea why it's there.
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13:19:55 * clokep_work wins. ;)
13:20:08 <clokep_work> Well it'll be gone tomorrow anyway, right? :-D
13:20:24 <aleth> today ;)
13:20:37 <aleth> You need to update.
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13:30:30 <clokep_work> aleth: Btw thanks for doing those checkins. :)
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13:30:57 <clokep_work> If that wasn't clear. :)
13:33:49 <clokep_work> So I can't connect to GTalk now either. :-D
13:36:17 <flo-retina> clokep_work: that would probably be worth a chemspill... if that was even possible :-/
13:36:30 <clokep_work> flo-retina: On a nightly?
13:36:39 <flo-retina> Isn't release similarly broken?
13:36:56 <clokep_work> I was connected fine on the previous nightly. Updated and now can't connect.
13:36:56 <flo-retina> if it's not, then there's something strange going on in necko :)
13:37:03 <clokep_work> kapy said 1.5 worked.
13:37:14 <flo-retina> same for me, but I assumed Gtalk just stopped opening the 443 port
13:37:16 <aleth> That does sound like a necko issue then if 1.5 works
13:38:10 <clokep_work> I haven't verified that.
13:38:24 <clokep_work> But I need to udpate my calendar for the next two weeks at work so I'll be back in like 8 hours. ;)
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13:42:07 * clokep_work wonders if there's any way to override the port in there...
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14:01:13 <clokep_work> flo-retina: So if it isn't port 443 no longer working for GTalk, any other thoughts?
14:09:53 <aleth> ask on #necko, or hg bisect m-c?
14:19:34 <aleth> JS-XMPP still connects fine (to non-Google servers)
14:24:32 <flo-retina> have we verified that previous nightlies still work fine?
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14:29:10 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I was just on one this morning...
14:29:25 <clokep_work> Before aleth told me to update to get rid of the IRC messages.
14:29:33 <clokep_work> It was one from Thursday or Friay.
14:29:46 <flo-retina> ah so you need to decided if you prefer IRC spams are working gtalk? Difficult decision ;)
14:37:50 <clokep_work> Is there a way to get the log on hgweb of just a subfolder?
14:38:40 <flo-retina> I don't think so
14:38:57 <flo-retina> that's why finding when a file was removed is sometimes difficult
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14:40:01 <clokep_work> bug 846489 sounds somewhat suspicious.
14:40:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846489 enh, --, mozilla36, mgoodwin, RESO FIXED, Create an SSL Error Reporting Mechanism
14:40:21 <clokep_work> Sometimes? :-D
14:41:13 <flo-retina> clokep_work: sometimes you have easy ways to guess what was changed at the same time as the file got removed (eg. a makefile in the folder)
14:41:40 <aleth> flo-retina: hg log directoryname --removed --verbose works for that
14:42:05 <flo-retina> aleth: but you run that locally, right?
14:42:11 <aleth> yes
14:42:30 <aleth> I don't think there's a way to get that option on the web
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