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(Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 07:38:13 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 07:52:15 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 07:52:15 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 07:53:00 <-- flo-retina has quit (Connection closed) 07:53:04 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 07:53:04 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 08:04:45 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 08:04:50 <flo-retina> hmm, seems really quiet around here "early" in the European morning :-S 08:09:13 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 08:11:14 <flo-retina> aleth: http://puu.sh/cyQZQ/654aaf140c.png <3 08:21:14 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 08:21:14 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 08:22:13 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: ...) 08:22:17 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 08:22:17 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 08:41:22 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 08:41:44 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 08:43:37 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 08:43:43 --> nhnt11 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timeout: 121 seconds) 10:47:13 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 10:49:57 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 1087566 from --- to FIXED. 10:49:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1087566 nor, --, 1.6, aleth, RESO FIXED, Automatically try to get your nick back if it's still in use on connecting 10:50:20 <nhnt11> aleth: Got your ping about split logs, thanks. I'll look at it in a bit, today is a holiday here :) 10:50:28 <instantbot> aleth@instantbird.org changed the Resolution on bug 955536 from --- to FIXED. 10:50:29 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955536 enh, --, 1.6, nobody, RESO FIXED, Buddy Conversations Should Have Close/Hold Pref 10:51:43 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:51:50 * redDragon is now known as redDragon|away 10:56:24 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 11:13:20 --> kapy has joined #instantbird 11:13:52 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:13:54 <-- kapy has quit (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)) 11:14:02 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 11:16:59 --> kapy has joined #instantbird 11:17:18 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:17:32 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 11:18:04 <-- kapy has quit (Connection closed) 11:19:17 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 11:21:08 <flo-retina> uh, we are receiving outgoing messages? :( 11:21:28 * flo-retina should have looked at the patch before commenting 11:22:22 <aleth> it's also possible that it's me that's confused ;) 11:22:34 <flo-retina> that code is confusing 11:22:41 <aleth> yes 11:22:45 <flo-retina> I'm hoping having tests (which I haven't read yet) will contribute to clarifying it 11:22:52 <aleth> That's why I'm asking for so many extra comments... 11:23:06 <flo-retina> my Gtalk account doesn't connect 11:23:20 <aleth> someone filed that the other day 11:23:21 <flo-retina> same error as what was given in the bug that was filed during the week-end 11:24:39 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 11:24:39 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 11:24:40 <flo-retina> anybody knows why we connect to the port 443? http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/gtalk/gtalk.js#79 11:25:00 <aleth> Try connecting to a different port with JS-XMPP and see if that helps 11:25:17 <flo-retina> I would hope the standard XMPP ports work 11:25:42 <clokep> flo-retina: No idea. 11:26:13 <flo-retina> ah, I think I know 11:26:28 <flo-retina> that's because we use the "old SSL" trick 11:26:50 <clokep> That was my only thought, but I don't really know what that means. :) 11:27:03 <clokep> There's some mentions of using that with port 443 from Pidgin when I looked the other day. 11:27:59 <flo-retina> clokep: so for gtalk we start SSL directly when opening the socket on talk.google.com, instead of doing <starttls> later which would give us a cert we won't like because it could be for a different hostname 11:28:36 <flo-retina> it could also have been to help people behind proxies 11:29:08 --> kapy has joined #instantbird 11:29:42 <clokep> Interesting. 11:30:25 <aleth> DNS SRV workaround? 11:30:34 <flo-retina> Looks like Miranda also uses 443: https://code.google.com/p/miranda/source/detail?r=13097 11:30:38 <flo-retina> aleth: kind-of 11:30:47 <flo-retina> aleth: even with DNS SRV Gtalk would need a workaround 11:31:01 <flo-retina> aleth: because the Gtalk servers can't offer a valid cert for Google Apps accounts 11:32:13 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 11:32:31 <flo-retina> of course GTalk accounts don't let us specify the connect options :-/ 11:35:24 <clokep> aleth: You should make sure commit messages look reasonable when committing: https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/643e216d8eeb 11:36:08 <aleth> Yes, I spotted that too after landing, thanks. mq fail (I only checked the first line of each commit message) 11:36:09 <clokep> (Now I hace no idea how that sort of message was created in the first place. :) Likely a qfold) 11:36:30 <flo-retina> yes, it seems like qfold 11:36:38 <aleth> It must have been a qfold, but why there was a qfold of two bugs with the same commit message I don't know 11:37:21 <flo-retina> would that be visible in the output of |hg out| or do you have to print the log of each changeset individually to spot this before pushing? 11:38:18 <aleth> hg out doesn't show it, nor does hg log 11:38:35 <flo-retina> :( 11:39:19 <aleth> You need hg log --verbose :-( 11:39:27 <clokep> I export each changeset right after importing to ensure it looks sane. :) 11:39:30 <clokep> And I still mess up sometimes. :( 11:39:52 <aleth> I had to fix up a lot of the commit messages from the patches I imported, and I still missed it. 11:41:23 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 11:44:28 <clokep> Chat and UI Patches? :P 11:44:31 <clokep> Interesting push. 11:45:10 <aleth> I just added patches that seemed a long way away from the still failing tests ;) 11:45:51 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:47:12 <aleth> bah, there's patches in TB checkin-needed from mid-September :-S 11:48:17 <flo-retina> :( 11:50:16 <clokep> Yeah, I was continually skipping certain patches as they "scared" me. 11:56:41 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 12:00:45 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:04:59 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 12:14:13 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited) 12:29:19 --> BillBinkley has joined #instantbird 12:50:39 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 12:52:00 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 12:52:00 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:52:23 <clokep_work> Why do we get a message telling us what SSL cipher was used? :-S 12:52:28 <clokep_work> Does someone really care about that? 12:55:07 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:56:15 <flo-retina> maybe people using IRC from their terminal need that info? :-P 12:57:36 <clokep_work> Ugh. 13:04:37 <flo-retina> (in case that wasn't obvious, I'm just kidding) 13:05:54 <clokep_work> Yeah I know. 13:06:03 <clokep_work> And I understood that's the reason it was being sent. 13:06:13 <clokep_work> People just need to stop doing that. 13:07:37 <aleth> It makes it look "techy" ;) 13:08:47 <aleth> more seriously, IRC doesn't really have a way of sending such info outside of messages 13:12:05 <clokep_work> Sure it does. 13:12:11 <clokep_work> It doesn't need to be a NOTICE message. 13:12:27 <clokep_work> And frankly the client should "know" that information anyway. 13:12:31 <clokep_work> It was part of the handshake. ;) 13:12:45 <aleth> Sure you could invent something, but it's not like XMPP where you could just add a node to some existing stanza 13:12:47 <clokep_work> There's no reason the server needs to send that info in a plaintext message. 13:13:34 <aleth> I agree about this particular case, no idea why it's there. 13:15:23 --> sherief has joined #instantbird 13:19:55 * clokep_work wins. ;) 13:20:08 <clokep_work> Well it'll be gone tomorrow anyway, right? :-D 13:20:24 <aleth> today ;) 13:20:37 <aleth> You need to update. 13:21:03 * redDragon|away is now known as redDragon 13:30:30 <clokep_work> aleth: Btw thanks for doing those checkins. :) 13:30:33 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:30:35 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:30:35 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:30:57 <clokep_work> If that wasn't clear. :) 13:33:49 <clokep_work> So I can't connect to GTalk now either. :-D 13:36:17 <flo-retina> clokep_work: that would probably be worth a chemspill... if that was even possible :-/ 13:36:30 <clokep_work> flo-retina: On a nightly? 13:36:39 <flo-retina> Isn't release similarly broken? 13:36:56 <clokep_work> I was connected fine on the previous nightly. Updated and now can't connect. 13:36:56 <flo-retina> if it's not, then there's something strange going on in necko :) 13:37:03 <clokep_work> kapy said 1.5 worked. 13:37:14 <flo-retina> same for me, but I assumed Gtalk just stopped opening the 443 port 13:37:16 <aleth> That does sound like a necko issue then if 1.5 works 13:38:10 <clokep_work> I haven't verified that. 13:38:24 <clokep_work> But I need to udpate my calendar for the next two weeks at work so I'll be back in like 8 hours. ;) 13:41:28 * redDragon is now known as redDragon|away 13:42:07 * clokep_work wonders if there's any way to override the port in there... 13:44:51 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 13:48:05 --> rosonline has joined #instantbird 13:49:18 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:01:13 <clokep_work> flo-retina: So if it isn't port 443 no longer working for GTalk, any other thoughts? 14:09:53 <aleth> ask on #necko, or hg bisect m-c? 14:19:34 <aleth> JS-XMPP still connects fine (to non-Google servers) 14:24:32 <flo-retina> have we verified that previous nightlies still work fine? 14:25:36 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 14:29:10 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I was just on one this morning... 14:29:25 <clokep_work> Before aleth told me to update to get rid of the IRC messages. 14:29:33 <clokep_work> It was one from Thursday or Friay. 14:29:46 <flo-retina> ah so you need to decided if you prefer IRC spams are working gtalk? Difficult decision ;) 14:37:50 <clokep_work> Is there a way to get the log on hgweb of just a subfolder? 14:38:40 <flo-retina> I don't think so 14:38:57 <flo-retina> that's why finding when a file was removed is sometimes difficult 14:38:59 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 14:40:01 <clokep_work> bug 846489 sounds somewhat suspicious. 14:40:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=846489 enh, --, mozilla36, mgoodwin, RESO FIXED, Create an SSL Error Reporting Mechanism 14:40:21 <clokep_work> Sometimes? :-D 14:41:13 <flo-retina> clokep_work: sometimes you have easy ways to guess what was changed at the same time as the file got removed (eg. a makefile in the folder) 14:41:40 <aleth> flo-retina: hg log directoryname --removed --verbose works for that 14:42:05 <flo-retina> aleth: but you run that locally, right? 14:42:11 <aleth> yes 14:42:30 <aleth> I don't think there's a way to get that option on the web 14:43:28 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:50:08 <-- flo-retina has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 15:00:37 <-- kapy has left #instantbird ("Closing Window") 15:04:21 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 15:04:21 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 15:06:54 --> Patrick has joined #instantbird 15:19:54 <-- DGMurdockIII has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:20:07 --> DGMurdockIII has joined #instantbird 15:27:46 --> sawrubh has joined #instantbird 15:29:48 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 15:48:08 --> Gizmokid2010 has joined #instantbird 15:48:24 <-- Gizmokid2005 has quit (Quit: ZNC - http://znc.sourceforge.net) 15:48:31 * Gizmokid2010 is now known as Gizmokid2005 15:49:06 <-- Gizmokid2005 has quit (Quit: Uh-oh!! 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