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flo-retina flo-retina 10:42:29 <flo-retina> That IRC regression is annoying. I wonder if it's something we could have easily caught with a test. 10:42:49 <clokep> Not an easy test. 10:42:58 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 10:44:30 <flo-retina> clokep: I'm guessing we would need an IRC fake server, and then check that no conversation opened. Is that also what you have in mind by "not easy"? 10:45:12 <clokep> Yes. 10:45:44 <clokep> I agree that that set of code does really need tests though. 10:46:35 <flo-retina> alright, let's try and make that happen in the next year or so :) 10:47:03 <clokep> It's not fun. :'( 10:47:12 <clokep> I've actually thought quite a bit about it. 10:47:27 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:47:44 <clokep> The part I have trouble conceptualizing is how you store data and tell the server to respond. 10:56:13 <flo-retina> clokep: would it be enough to record prior exchanges with real servers and only replay them? 10:56:58 <clokep> flo-retina: Perhaps, but you still need to know *when* to replay them in order to give a somewhat sane result. 10:57:04 <clokep> It depends what you're trying to test. :) 10:57:32 <flo-retina> mostly trying to test that connecting to an IRC server works fine overall 10:57:36 <clokep> I've tried to get Joshua to explain how the IMAP/POP/SMTP fake servers work, but he's never explained it in enough detail that I really felt I understood how the data is stored. 10:59:11 <clokep> It's certainly doable. 10:59:11 <clokep> I just need to sit down and think about it for a bit, I think. 10:59:27 <clokep> And figure out where to draw the line to make it a *fake* irc server. ;) 11:01:20 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:17:33 --> aleth_web has joined #instantbird 11:37:07 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 11:41:35 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:42:44 --> sherief has joined #instantbird 11:47:21 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:47:21 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:10:29 <flo-retina> if we want to make it a real irc server, that would be a good step toward providing a bouncer ;) 12:11:29 <aleth_web> I'm keeping half an eye on the docker experiments jcranmer and others are doing, as an instance of inspircd would also be a decent fake server ;) 12:11:58 <flo-retina> what's that docker experiment? 12:14:01 <aleth_web> http://gregoryszorc.com/blog/2014/10/16/the-rabbit-hole-of-using-docker-in-automated-tests/ and https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/jb4sjkw5PNI 12:15:59 <clokep_work> aleth_web: Frankly I think that's a wormhole. 12:16:31 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Haha, so HALLOWEEN busted us? :P 12:16:33 <clokep_work> Not cool. 12:16:49 <aleth_web> clokep_work: It could be. *Half* an eye ;) 12:17:01 <clokep_work> I also don't think we should go down the path of making a real IRC server. :P 12:17:32 <clokep_work> aleth_web: So an interesting thing about email is that it's easier to fake (IMO) because you just create emails and put them in a location to get read. 12:17:51 <clokep_work> But instant messaging requires more communication back and forth between multiple parties. 12:20:04 <aleth_web> It's a shame configure didn't come up with a halloween-themed error message. 12:20:04 <aleth_web> clokep_work: and the fact that timing matters makes it hard too 12:22:30 <clokep_work> Yep. 12:27:01 <flo-retina> can't we just ignore the timing issues for the first tests? 12:27:14 <flo-retina> at this point any functional test would be better than no test at all 12:30:21 <clokep_work> I don't see how you can ignore it? 12:30:27 <clokep_work> It depends what you're trying to test anyway. 12:30:36 <clokep_work> I tried mocking out receiving messages btw. 12:30:40 <clokep_work> It's extremely difficult. 12:31:15 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 12:31:33 <clokep_work> https://bitbucket.org/clokep/comm-central-patches/src/a4858a0118e82a6e04eb52b856056cbf0ed32f0a/irc-channel-test?at=default 12:35:45 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:50:50 --> mpmc1 has joined #instantbird 12:51:46 <-- mpmc has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:07:37 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited) 13:25:01 --> Patrick has joined #instantbird 13:25:25 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 13:29:13 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 13:29:55 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:30:39 <-- mpmc1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:32:20 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 13:51:49 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:51:51 <instant-buildbot> build #1212 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1212 13:51:51 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:51:51 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:52:09 <clokep_work> Hmm...I don't see thet hemeing... 13:54:29 <clokep_work> the themeing 13:56:33 <instant-buildbot> build #2408 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2408 13:57:25 <flo-retina> ah, time to update! :) 13:57:44 <clokep_work> Ah, did I update too early? 13:57:45 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:57:48 <clokep_work> Dammit. 13:57:49 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 13:57:49 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 13:58:26 <-- clokep_work has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:58:28 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 13:58:28 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 13:58:42 <flo-retina> dear nightly testers - happy Halloween! :) 13:59:08 <clokep_work> Woot! 13:59:25 <flo-retina> :) 14:09:43 --> kapy has joined #instantbird 14:13:26 <flo-retina> I wonder why the Linux64 build started earlier and hasn't finished yet 14:13:49 <flo-retina> maybe that specific slave needs more ram 14:19:36 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 14:22:15 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:22:15 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 14:22:33 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: ...) 14:22:36 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 14:22:36 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 14:23:06 <aleth> Happy Halloween build :) 14:24:06 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:24:35 <-- aleth_web has left #instantbird ("") 14:25:45 <flo-retina> I'm hoping we'll have the Windows one tonight 14:25:51 <flo-retina> I exchanged a few emails with Even today about it 14:26:12 <flo-retina> the reason the slave has been offline for a few days was that he had reinstalled the OS on the host machine and forgot to setup VMWare on it again 14:26:52 <flo-retina> he managed to get the Windows VM to start this morning, but the slave is still not online, so there's something he still has to figure out tonight when I'll be at home 14:27:15 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 14:44:10 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 14:51:01 <clokep_work> COol. :) I had been meaning to ping him on that. THanks for following up. 14:51:24 <flo-retina> np 14:51:38 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:51:44 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 14:52:11 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 14:52:27 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 15:00:03 --> aleth1 has joined #instantbird 15:00:04 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth1 15:00:23 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:06:06 <-- aleth1 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:13:46 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 15:14:38 <flo-retina> it's impressive how much time one can waste hacking CSS :( 15:18:16 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:18:17 <clokep_work> What you working on? 15:18:31 <flo-retina> not ib related 15:18:36 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 15:18:36 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 15:37:44 --> myk has joined #instantbird 15:38:35 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:38:42 --> myk has joined #instantbird 15:39:25 <myk> nice icon today! 15:39:34 <flo-retina> myk: thanks :) 15:55:20 <-- BillBinkley has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:59:50 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:07:56 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 16:08:10 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 16:12:24 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:14:53 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 16:22:00 <sukhe> hello instantbird. as part of Tor Messenger, we would like to include some certificates by default, like OFTC and jabber.ccc.de 16:22:19 <sukhe> what is the right way to include these certificates as part of the build process? 16:23:02 <flo-retina> sukhe: hello :) 16:23:27 <flo-retina> I wonder if you could just put the certs file in http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/app/profile/ and tweak the makefile there to have the certs file copied to the default profile folder 16:23:38 <flo-retina> note: that's just a random guess, I haven't tried doing that before 16:25:53 <sukhe> flo-retina: yup, that was the closest I could find (I thought the same thing in a message here:https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tbb-dev/2014-October/000147.html) 16:26:12 <sukhe> I am not sure but I think the right way would be to update cert8.db but I can't find any instructions for it 16:26:16 <sukhe> (btw, hi ;) 16:28:43 <flo-retina> I wonder if the code in http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/security/manager/ssl/tests/unit/test_ev_certs/generate.py would give some clues about how to do that 16:29:08 <flo-retina> I guess another way may be to just thing people who have done that kind of things in the past 16:29:14 <flo-retina> s/thing/find/ 16:29:50 <sukhe> flo-retina: I will checkout the code. about finding someone who has done it, I tried asking the Tor Browser team and apparently, they didn't even know 16:30:01 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:30:17 <sukhe> (because they have never done it) 16:30:22 <flo-retina> I would try asking folks in #security 16:30:24 <sukhe> I wonder who will be the right people to talk about th this 16:30:34 <sukhe> aah I see, fair enough 16:37:05 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:37:05 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 16:42:56 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 16:44:58 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:45:23 <instant-buildbot> build #108 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/108 16:47:11 <flo-retina> woah, why did it take so long? 16:47:55 <flo-retina> linux32 took 1h40min 16:48:14 <flo-retina> linux64 4h30min 16:48:21 <flo-retina> it's the exact same hardware 16:50:04 <arlolra> yeah, but so worth it for the spooky halloween theme 16:53:16 <sukhe> flo-retina: seems like we have to ask the group 16:53:26 <flo-retina> I saw that answer 16:53:31 <sukhe> flo-retina: is my understanding correct that you guys don't do anything with the certs and just use the default? 16:53:39 <flo-retina> that's correct 16:53:43 <flo-retina> we use whatever comes with Firefox 16:53:54 <flo-retina> except we aren't shipping the Firefox UI :) 16:55:28 <clokep_work> The other solution is to have them use valid certs? ;) 16:56:27 <flo-retina> clokep_work: obviously a better solution, but I'm not sure sukhe can fix that today ;). 16:57:17 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:59:43 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:01:24 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:02:04 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 17:04:07 <sukhe> haha yeah. IIRC, Runa (Tor outreach) tried to get jabber.ccc.de to not use a self-signed cert. I think that conversation went nowhere :) 17:04:48 <clokep_work> I've never heard of ccc.de personally. 17:06:03 <sukhe> CCC is Europe's largest hacker club (based in Germany). their jabber server is quite popular 17:06:36 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:06:45 <aleth> They've been around for a long time... 17:10:57 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Connection closed) 17:11:25 <-- clokep_work has quit (Connection closed) 17:11:47 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 17:11:47 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 17:16:18 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:16:41 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 17:21:55 <-- kapy has quit (Connection closed) 17:24:49 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 17:26:29 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:28:55 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 17:30:34 <clokep_work> I believe you, just saying I've never heard of it. :) 17:30:40 <clokep_work> You'd think they'd want a real cert then. :-S 17:30:48 <aleth> You'd think... 17:31:01 <clokep_work> sukhe: If you want to make the styling around overriding certs better we'd appreciate that too. ;) 17:32:01 <sukhe> yes sure! (if we do a better job that is ;) 17:35:55 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Quit: ) 17:44:42 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:45:08 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:48:37 --> BillBinkley has joined #instantbird 17:56:15 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 18:00:44 --> sonny1 has joined #instantbird 18:00:46 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:00:54 <-- sonny1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:00:54 <-- sonny has quit (Connection closed) 18:07:56 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:23:40 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:26:48 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 18:27:03 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 18:29:44 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:41:38 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 18:42:02 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed) 18:42:28 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:50:24 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 18:53:12 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:54:54 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:01:12 <arlolra> is there a setting for !isChat to default to "put conversation on hold" 19:02:03 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird 19:02:26 <aleth> probably 19:02:30 <-- Bollebib has quit (Connection closed) 19:02:56 <aleth> or actually, not: bug 955536 19:02:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955536 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Buddy Conversations Should Have Close/Hold Pref 19:04:51 <arlolra> thanks 19:07:28 <aleth> Whoa, my current build crashes seconds after startup 19:07:43 <aleth> And the crash reporter doesn't seem to be able to submit a report 19:07:55 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 19:07:59 * aleth blames m-c 19:18:48 <aleth> arlolra: that's a pretty trivial bug if you need to fix it 19:19:15 <arlolra> working on it now 19:19:31 <arlolra> i'm also going to do what you asked for here https://github.com/arlolra/ctypes-otr/issues/11 19:19:41 <arlolra> listen for conversation-closed 19:19:59 <arlolra> we talked in over and your model makes sense 19:20:18 <aleth> Is there much overhead involved in otr.disconnect() ? 19:20:30 <aleth> If there isn't, it's definitely sensible 19:21:19 <aleth> (well, as long as all this client-to-client negotitation is invisible to the user I guess) 19:23:17 <arlolra> no overhead. just one outgoing message, that works fine the prpl-quit case right now. it was more a user expectation thing that i've been convinced that i'm wrong in 19:24:07 <aleth> users differ... the bug is there because the behaviour you expected has been requested before. 19:25:17 <arlolra> that's true 19:26:03 <aleth> iirc you would need to modify uiConv.checkClose() 19:30:23 --> Widdershins has joined #instantbird 19:30:56 <arlolra> k, looking 19:31:01 <arlolra> aleth: I added my tests https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1071166#c18 19:31:03 <instantbot> Bug 1071166 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Outgoing messages not escaped correctly 19:31:17 <aleth> thanks! 19:44:33 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 19:46:58 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 19:49:01 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:51:17 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 19:52:31 <arlolra> aleth: reasonable? https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955536#c3 19:52:33 <instantbot> Bug 955536 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Buddy Conversations Should Have Close/Hold Pref 19:54:45 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 20:30:18 <-- ogi has quit (Connection closed) 20:38:10 <-- BillBinkley has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:38:17 <-- Widdershins has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:38:43 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 20:43:11 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:46:47 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 20:51:16 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:22:26 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:23:50 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 21:23:50 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 21:40:55 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 21:45:26 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:15:09 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 22:21:20 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 23:12:29 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird 23:14:41 --> myk1 has joined #instantbird 23:14:50 <-- myk has quit (Connection closed) 23:21:11 <aleth> ah, looks like m-c has backed out whatever was crashing 23:30:11 <-- Armada has quit (Connection closed) 23:45:56 <-- myk1 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)