#instantbird log on 10 30 2014

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00:39:08 <clokep> 7:04:34 AM - clokep_work: arlolra: https://bitbucket.org/clokep/comm-central-patches/raw/83d5268aa63c4138c9bc7b1b90ed5ef84ed87f4a/otr-libs
00:41:13 <arlolra> clokep: is that missing libgcrypt?
00:41:25 <clokep> arlolra: It's not even close to done.
00:41:30 <arlolra> ha
00:41:30 <clokep> But it's what I had time to do.
00:41:33 <clokep> It also doesn't compile. :-D
00:41:40 <arlolra> great!
00:41:50 <clokep> Because libgpg-error does stupid things.
00:41:55 <clokep> Like compile a *separate* program first.
00:42:10 <clokep> And then parse some of the c++ code to auto-generate a header, which it then parses with awk to create another header.
00:42:11 <instantbot> c++ sucks
00:42:17 <clokep> We'll want to talk to flo-retina about what to do there...
00:43:08 <arlolra> yikes
00:44:02 <arlolra> hard to see what are checked in files and what's changes to instantbird
00:44:11 <arlolra> but great to see progress nonetheless
00:44:34 <arlolra> c++
00:44:35 <clokep> I don't understand what that statement means.
00:44:45 <clokep> "checked in files" vs. "what's changes in Instantbird"
00:44:51 <clokep> It's a diff, it should be pretty straightforward...
00:45:16 <clokep> arlolra: So I don't think I'll have time to look at this again soon, unfortunately. :-\
00:46:04 <arlolra> soon, like before the new year?
00:46:33 <clokep> Soon like for a few weeks, at least.
00:47:02 <arlolra> ah, well, there's no rush
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00:47:15 <arlolra> thanks for moving it forward as it is
00:47:28 <clokep> Yep, yep. I'll try to look at it again soon. Build systems aren't fun though. :-D
00:48:57 <arlolra> clokep: I've been working on some tests https://gist.github.com/arlolra/e4cbb929f64467c4383b
00:51:47 <clokep> arlolra: Cool.
00:51:53 <clokep> Looks pretty reasonable. :)
00:53:36 <arlolra> oh, and above I just meant it's a long diff cause you've got libgpg-error source in there
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00:55:26 <clokep> Yes, it's from my mq.
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02:01:21 <arlolra> clokep: any thoughts on this? https://lists.torproject.org/pipermail/tbb-dev/2014-October/000147.html
02:06:08 <clokep> arlolra: It seems reasonable if you want to include them.
02:06:12 <clokep> I don't know how to do it by default.
02:06:42 <arlolra> k, thanks
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02:21:14 <kapy> i'm trying to build i-b on windows, its giving me two errors
02:21:31 <kapy>  0:00.68 C:\mozilla-build\msys\local\bin\make.EXE -f client.mk -s
02:21:31 <kapy>  0:01.51 c:/Users/Kapil/mozilla/comm-central/mozilla/config/baseconfig.mk:35: *** MSYS make is not supported.  Stop.
02:21:31 <kapy>  0:01.51 make: *** [build] Error 2
02:21:31 <kapy>  0:01.56 0 compiler warnings present.
02:21:31 <kapy> 2
02:22:39 <kapy> http://pastebin.instantbird.com/1008830
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04:55:22 <instant-buildbot> build #1210 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1210
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05:00:45 <instant-buildbot> build #2406 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2406
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05:53:55 <instant-buildbot> build #106 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/106
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10:34:38 <clokep> bug 1077148 will likely bust purplexpcom.
10:34:41 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1077148 nor, --, ---, mh+mozilla, NEW, Define mozglue dependencies in moz.build
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10:52:55 <clokep> flo-retina: aleth: Did you look at that patch in bug 1071166?
10:52:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1071166 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Outgoing messages not escaped correctly
10:53:07 <flo-retina> I haven't
10:53:19 <aleth> Didn't I r+ it?
10:53:22 <clokep> It uses "ok" and "equal" as functions.
10:53:34 <aleth> Oh, the tests.
10:53:36 <clokep> Is that different than do_check_equal?
10:53:43 <aleth> clokep: that's the new Assert framework
10:54:08 <clokep> aleth: Is it just available? I don't see him including it anywhere...?
10:54:50 <aleth> At one point it was being pushed as the new status quo, I'm not sure what the current status is though
10:56:03 <aleth> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/QA/Writing_xpcshell-based_unit_tests says do_check_equal is deprecated
10:58:25 <clokep> I still don't understand what ok does. :-S
10:58:34 <clokep> It's really non-obvious from that code.
10:58:50 <flo-retina> clokep: it does do_check_true
10:59:00 <aleth> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/JavaScript_code_modules/Assert.jsm
10:59:12 <clokep> flo-retina: Seriously? :-S
10:59:25 <flo-retina> hmm, not true actually. truish :)
10:59:38 <clokep> aleth: Ah-ha! That should be linked from that first page you linked hah.
10:59:47 <aleth> clokep: it should!
10:59:51 <aleth> truthy :P First time I encounter that word
10:59:52 <flo-retina> fix it? :)
11:00:04 <clokep> "ok" doesn't sound like an assertion to me.
11:00:13 <flo-retina> err, yeah, truthy, not truish.
11:00:20 <clokep> I'll fix it at work, I can't log into persona on this machine.
11:00:21 <aleth> clokep: It's Assert.ok but Assert is in scope
11:00:32 <flo-retina> lol, Persona :)
11:00:33 <aleth> yay persona!
11:00:52 <flo-retina> that's almost as entertaining as being moderated on mailing lists ;)
11:00:55 <clokep> aleth: Yes, I understand that...just saying that "ok" isn't strong enough in colloquial English to be an assertion. ;)
11:01:06 <clokep> But whatever, as long as I get what it's doing now.
11:01:11 <aleth> makes it sound like google glass ;)
11:03:14 <clokep> I think my problem is there's no "action" in those functions.
11:03:23 <clokep> (Without the Assert namespace.)
11:03:31 <aleth> yeah...
11:03:45 <aleth> I suppose they wanted short names, that makes it hard to come up with something
11:06:22 <flo-retina> well, it was also good to not change the existing API
11:06:35 * aleth wonders what "guard" is
11:06:41 <flo-retina> all mochitests have already used ok, is, etc... for almost a decade
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11:16:14 <clokep> aleth: !!
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12:19:57 <clokep_work> aleth: Doh apparently that page is linked.
12:19:59 <clokep_work> And I just ignored it.
12:20:31 <aleth> OK then :)
12:20:55 <aleth> I didn't see it either
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12:46:50 <clokep_work> aleth: Thanks. :)
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13:41:19 <clokep_work> aleth: So you're saying it's wanted that if I wanted clokep, ended up with clokep1, then clokep times out 10 hours later it will automatically change to clokep? I don't know if I agree or disagree, I just want to make sure my statement was clear.
13:41:56 <aleth> Yes. TBH I'm not sure what the best behaviour is here either
13:42:36 <aleth> My assumption was that you don't really want to keep a nick you were assigned algorithmically
13:46:41 <clokep_work> OK. :)
13:46:52 <clokep_work> Let's try what we have and see if it's really weird.
13:47:40 <aleth> Yes, if it turns out to be annoying it's easy to fix
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13:52:26 <clokep_work> OK. :)
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14:20:29 <clokep_work> aleth: Btw my second part of that comment was just ensuring how I think it works. ;)
14:20:34 <clokep_work> Glad to know you already thought of it!
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14:35:19 <aleth> "Is this line too long or arethe comments above this too short?
14:35:22 <aleth> :D
14:35:35 <clokep_work> Something is funky about it. ;)
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16:12:59 <aleth> clokep_work: "I think this is OK that _nickInUseTimeout might have ran already, but please just think about this briefly." What do you mean exactly?
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16:26:22 <clokep_work> aleth: Will that code explode if the timer ran already?
16:27:25 <aleth> I don't see how? 
16:28:19 <aleth> Either we've got our nick back already, in which case the if clause doesn't fire, or we don't, in which case great.
16:31:38 <clokep_work> aleth: So I want foo, end with foo1.
16:31:44 <clokep_work> After 2.5 minutes, I request foo again.
16:31:47 <clokep_work> Still have foo1.
16:31:50 <clokep_work> And foo quits.
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16:32:09 <aleth> Then you get foo at that point.
16:32:53 <aleth> Oh, are you concerned about clearTimeout(null)?
16:33:19 <clokep_work> That and the delete.
16:33:24 <clokep_work> I'm saying it should be fine.
16:33:30 <clokep_work> But I wanted to make sure you thought about it too. :)
16:33:43 <aleth> OK, yes, I had :)
16:34:18 <aleth> Though we may have to reconsider the way we use delete, by what I gather from Yoric
16:34:26 <aleth> But that's a separate story...
16:35:07 <clokep_work> I agree.
16:35:11 <clokep_work> I was confused by his statement anyway
16:35:27 <aleth> I want to ask him some followups too
16:35:52 <clokep_work> aleth: You didn't need to re-request review for the comment wrapping. :)
16:36:28 <aleth> guess I wasn't thinking ;)
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16:37:41 <clokep_work> I'll happily give it! :P
16:38:28 <aleth> I'm hoping we'll never really notice that patch, it'll just magically get rid of trailing 1's...
16:38:56 <clokep_work> Me too! :)
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17:27:32 <arlolra> clokep_work: thanks for the quick review
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17:50:56 <clokep_work> arlolra: I hope it makes sense. :)
18:18:20 <arlolra> they do. I replied
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20:01:44 <clokep_work> :)
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20:20:00 <clokep_work> arlolra: For the record Florian wrote it: http://hg.instantbird.org/addons/annotate/546b657cdcbe/rot13/bootstrap.js ;)
20:20:11 <clokep_work> All I ever did in that file was change the license!
20:20:19 * flo-retina wonders what he did
20:22:34 <arlolra> lest we besmirch your good name
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20:53:25 <aleth> myk: That's a regression in today's nightly, should be fixed when we next do checkins :)
20:53:42 <aleth> Thanks for letting us know.
20:53:43 <myk> aleth: aha! thanks!
20:54:30 <aleth> (assuming you're talking about "Looking for hostname..." etc)
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20:58:49 <myk> aleth: hmm, unsure, i've already closed the tab! /me restarts instantbird
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20:59:25 <myk> aleth: yup :-)
20:59:33 <aleth> myk: OK then :)
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21:35:56 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 1091884 filed by aleth@instantbird.org.
21:35:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1091884 min, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Status icon height too big in MUCs
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21:46:29 <clokep_work> aleth: Well my local build passed so...sounds like we're OK?
21:46:44 <flo-retina> or the breaking change hasn't reached m-c yet
21:47:15 <clokep_work> Ah....maybe only some of the changes made it to m-c, yes.
21:48:15 <aleth> They look like they're in m-c, from the bug.
21:48:37 <aleth> c-c may not be using the pattern the bug refers to
21:51:56 * clokep_work kind of wants to push but the tree looks like amess...
21:53:22 <clokep> Any im/ only bugs besides bug 1091884?
21:53:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1091884 min, --, ---, aleth, ASSI, Status icon height too big in MUCs
21:53:56 <aleth> No, I think it's all chat/
21:55:39 <clokep> Bahhhh
21:55:49 <flo-retina> I'm willing to pretend I haven't seen that patch.
21:56:04 <flo-retina> (but it's really wallpapering another bug instead of fixing it)
21:56:49 <aleth> Yes, a lot of that CSS could be considered a bug.
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21:58:14 * clokep_work didn't think flo would like it. ;)
21:59:14 <flo-retina> WTF, MDN...
21:59:30 <flo-retina> I'm on a page in French (pfff), clicking the "English" link gives me a totally different page in English
22:00:05 <flo-retina> aleth: so what you really want is to set box-align to a value other than the default 'stretch' https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/CSS/box-align
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22:02:12 <aleth> flo-retina: Interesting, I've never come across that one before for some reason
22:03:17 <flo-retina> clokep_work: so you are reviewing UI patches now? :)
22:03:33 <flo-retina> clokep_work: remind me to request review from you the next time I have an awful CSS hack to check-in :-P.
22:03:47 * aleth thinks flo's queue is full of roofers
22:03:55 <clokep> flo-retina: I'm pretty sure CSS patches that I review are mostly "Eh, that looks reasonable!"
22:06:56 <aleth> It's not clear where to put the box-align though...
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22:29:29 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1091884 from --- to FIXED.
22:29:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1091884 min, --, 1.6, aleth, RESO FIXED, Status icon height too big in MUCs
22:30:58 <aleth> I would have preferred to push the IRC patches but starring the tree looks a bit too time-consuming at the moment :-/
22:33:26 <clokep> I agree.
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