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Until it popped up on my RSS feed. 10:39:32 <flo-retina> ah, you are tracking chat/ changes through rss? :) 10:40:41 <flo-retina> are you going to comment in the bug, or should I? 10:42:18 * clokep needs to read https://wiki.mozilla.org/Sheriffing/How:To:Comm-central . . . 10:42:27 <clokep> I'd appreciate if you could. :) 10:42:31 <clokep> But if you don't have time I can do it later. 10:42:41 <aleth> clokep: Do you have that feed on a public URL? 10:42:51 <aleth> Or are you using some script? 10:43:24 <clokep> aleth: http://hgchanges.fractalbrew.com/comm-central/feed/chat 10:43:32 <aleth> Thanks! 10:44:35 <aleth> Looks like it's lagging a bit. 10:45:17 <clokep> I think we'll want to re-enable this on the purple repo: bug 1089385 10:45:20 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1089385 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Make user repositories non-publishing by default 10:46:49 <flo-retina> I agree 10:47:42 * clokep ccs himself 10:49:17 <clokep> flo-retina, aleth: Did you see Joshua's post in m.d.a.thunderbird about tree status and doing approvals? 10:49:40 <flo-retina> I don't think I read that group/list 10:49:51 <flo-retina> are they going to replace tb-planning? :) 10:50:12 <clokep> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.apps.thunderbird/QAeL_UCIuZM 10:50:25 <clokep> No, apparently Joshua uses both in different situations or something. 10:53:18 <aleth> I saw it, yes 10:54:05 <aleth> Thanks. 10:58:40 <flo-retina> thanks for that link 11:00:44 <clokep> I think it means flo-retina can approve things. ;) 11:00:55 <flo-retina> it means clokep and aleth can too! :) 11:02:56 <clokep> Oh, did it say peers too? 11:04:49 <-- clokep has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 11:05:26 <flo-retina> it says "any (sub)module owner or peer " 11:05:32 <flo-retina> you are a submodule owner :) 11:05:43 <flo-retina> and both of your are peers :) 11:09:22 <flo-retina> s/your/you/ 11:10:44 <flo-retina> has the patch to fix auto-list on moznet not landed yet? 11:11:19 <aleth> No https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=checkin-needed&product=Chat%20Core&product=Instantbird&product=Instantbird%20Servers&list_id=11451094 11:11:55 <flo-retina> looks like clokep can give you approval ;) 11:12:06 <flo-retina> uh, it's all busted :( 11:12:29 <aleth> I think the bustage is just what I linked earlier, and JosiahOne already has a patch 11:12:47 <flo-retina> there's a fix in https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1089410 that looks like it just needs check-in 11:12:49 <instantbot> Bug 1089410 blo, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Package failures because of move from content/ to dom/ 11:13:40 <flo-retina> aleth: indeed. I didn't see the log from this morning (and actually didn't even notice our nightlies failed) 11:14:45 <flo-retina> nhnt11: re-debug tab being blank from opening from a command: are you sure you are passing the right account type? I mean imIAccount vs prplIAccount. 11:15:35 <instantbot> New Chat Core - General bug 1089577 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 11:15:36 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1089577 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Debug logs should include displayed message 11:44:55 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 11:45:38 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 11:50:31 --> flo-thinkpad-dbg has joined #instantbird 11:50:50 <flo-thinkpad-dbg> do we know this one? 11:50:50 <flo-thinkpad-dbg> Warning: Unused mode parameters: 2:2 11:51:52 <aleth> yes 11:52:56 <aleth> BUg 955190 11:52:58 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955190 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unused mode parameters 11:57:39 <flo-retina> heh, I filed it 11:59:52 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:59:52 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 12:08:56 * redDragon|away is now known as redDragon 12:09:34 --> Patrick1 has joined #instantbird 12:10:58 <-- Patrick has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 12:14:34 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited) 12:15:35 <clokep_work> Can we check that bustage in then? :-S 12:16:11 <clokep_work> Ah, that has to be ported to im, also. :( 12:16:42 --> sherief has joined #instantbird 12:19:14 --> BillBinkley has joined #instantbird 12:23:14 <aleth> clokep_work: It needs r+ from a mail peer 12:23:38 <clokep_work> aleth: r+ form Joshua is not enough? 12:23:49 <aleth> Ah, it didn't have r+ last time I looked this morning 12:27:26 <-- redDragon has quit (Quit: Quitting. Probably heading off to sleep.) 12:28:24 <aleth> I can check it in then 12:28:51 <clokep_work> aleth: Put up an im/ version on that bug and then check both in? ;) 12:29:21 <aleth> Sure 12:34:02 <aleth> clokep_work: r? 12:34:52 <clokep_work> aleth: r+! 12:34:53 <-- sonny has quit (Connection closed) 12:36:54 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 12:43:47 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 12:48:37 --> bernard has joined #instantbird 12:51:01 <clokep_work> Do we need to port http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/4b11354bfcf1 at all? 12:51:07 <clokep_work> FORCE_PR_LOG stuff 12:51:16 <clokep_work> And we likely hae to port http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/8d1c850ff12b ? 12:52:58 <aleth> I don't think we have any FORCE_PR_LOG 12:53:29 <aleth> And I already ported localstore -> XULstore, is this fresh bustage? 12:56:57 <clokep_work> It's one of the most recent commits. 12:57:01 <flo-retina> if we have one, it's in purpleDebug 12:57:03 <clokep_work> Also note that I didn't say it was a bustage. ;) 12:57:11 <flo-retina> but I also don't think we have any FORCE_PR_LOG 12:58:01 <aleth> clokep_work: Bug 1057410 12:58:03 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1057410 nor, --, 1.6, aleth, RESO FIXED, Move from localstore.rdf to xulStore following its depreciation in Bug 559505. 12:58:05 <flo-retina> aleth: looks to me like we have just been faster and we have already handled that 12:58:53 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 12:59:16 <clokep_work> FWIW http://dxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/search?q=localstore+path%3Aim%2F&redirect=true brings up a few things already. 13:00:32 <aleth> Ah, maybe we still need the packaging changes/ 13:01:53 <aleth> Indeed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8476829&action=diff only adds xulstore, it doesn't remove localstore 13:02:47 <aleth> But /mail still has it too 13:03:33 <aleth> So does /browser 13:17:00 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 13:19:53 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:20:22 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 13:20:22 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 13:32:26 <clokep_work> aleth: Ah, OK. Thanks. :) 13:32:33 <clokep_work> And thanks for pushing that code! 13:35:44 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:46:21 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 13:46:21 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 14:07:29 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 14:07:39 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:17:38 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 14:26:17 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 14:29:12 <clokep_work> aleth: Thanks for looking at the password stuff. 14:29:16 <clokep_work> I'll try your patch tonight. :) 14:29:56 <aleth> c-c looks green-ish again :) 14:35:22 <clokep_work> aleth: So is there a URL that immediately jumps to c-c then? 14:35:38 <aleth> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/ui/#/jobs?repo=comm-central 14:37:28 <clokep_work> That's a disgusting URL. :-\ 14:37:35 <aleth> #, yeah 14:37:53 <clokep_work> But thanks. :) 14:39:42 --> qheaden has joined #instantbird 14:39:49 <qheaden> Hi all. 14:40:55 <clokep_work> Hello qheaden. 14:42:20 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:57:31 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 14:58:54 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 15:00:04 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 15:03:28 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 15:04:09 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:05:55 <clokep_work> aleth: That push did look fairly green! :) 15:07:21 <aleth> Yes, not much to star there :) 15:15:02 <instant-buildbot> build #1207 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1207 15:23:49 <instant-buildbot> build #2403 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2403 15:49:44 --> kapy_ has joined #instantbird 15:51:27 <kapy_> hello, i'm new to open source and has started doing some bug fixes in mozilla 15:52:02 <kapy_> i was talking with flo and he told me about this amazing app he built 15:54:14 <kapy_> i want to participate in gsoc 2015 by contributing to instantbird and i came up with an idea that i would like to share 15:56:07 <clokep_work> kapy_: Hello! Welcome. :) 15:56:19 * clokep_work wonders where you met flo. 15:56:24 <kapy_> thanks 15:56:29 <clokep_work> kapy_: What's your idea? 15:56:35 <clokep_work> (Also I'm totally about to go get lunch. :-\) 15:56:48 <kapy_> i want to add chatheads to it 15:57:34 <kapy_> like the fb messenger for android and ios 15:57:51 <clokep_work> I'm not familiar with that. :-\ Maybe a screenshot would help? 15:58:04 <kapy_> see this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yp71mdEuQ4k 15:58:29 <kapy_> its the chat heads from google+ for desktop 16:02:13 <clokep_work> Interesting. 16:02:46 <kapy_> so what do you think ? 16:02:51 <clokep_work> Was your hope to make this part of the core of IB or as an extension? 16:02:52 <-- flo-thinkpad-dbg has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:02:59 <clokep_work> I don't normally deal w/ UI so I'll refrain from commenting. 16:03:05 <kapy_> core of IB 16:03:17 <clokep_work> I'm also seriously going to eat my fingers if I don't leave so...maybe flo-retina has some ideas. (or aleth) 16:03:33 <kapy_> ok, thanks 16:05:38 <kapy_> flo-retina, @aleth__what do you think about my idea ?? 16:09:39 <-- aleth has quit (Connection closed) 16:09:43 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 16:09:43 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 16:15:52 <kapy_> hello, is anybody here :) 16:16:13 <aleth> kapy_: Hi 16:16:32 <kapy_> hello 16:17:09 <aleth> Whether we ultimately took it into the core or not, that kind of big alternative UI is best prototyped as an add-on 16:17:45 <aleth> Much easier for other people to test your WIPs that way 16:17:53 <kapy_> yeah sure, we can add that as an addon 16:18:17 <aleth> So basically, it's a bubble-shapped contact list? 16:18:38 <kapy_> yeah, i know it can disturb the stability of the app so addon looks a good option 16:19:11 <aleth> Btw if you have questions, you can just post them here, usually someone will eventually see it 16:19:11 <kapy_> yeah a bubble shaped contact that glows when someone messages you 16:19:32 <kapy_> yeah sure, tanks 16:19:37 <kapy_> *thanks 16:20:38 <kapy_> i also want to add some features to it that other chat head apps don't have 16:21:39 <kapy_> did you liked the idea ? 16:21:54 <aleth> Go for it :) 16:22:33 <kapy_> wow, thanks 16:22:34 <aleth> I can see a bunch of potential problems, but you can figure those out as you go. I don't think it's my preferred UI, but that's a matter of opinion, and I'm sure there will be users who love it. 16:22:41 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:23:21 <aleth> The great thing about the mozilla add-on system is that they are almost unlimited in what they can do to change the app's behaviour. 16:24:08 <kapy_> i think its a great ui, people like it and the current ui of ib is old 16:25:17 <clokep_work> I think it's an interesting concept. I wouldn't say the UI of IB is "old" (btw be careful about phrasing of things when talking about something someone has invested a lot of time in...) 16:25:28 <clokep_work> If there are aspects that you think could be more innovative, we'd love to hear them. 16:25:38 <clokep_work> What happens with this chat heads thing when I want more than like 4 contactS? 16:25:44 <aleth> I don't see a problem with an add-on providing an alternative UI 16:25:51 <aleth> Whether chat heads are in fact a better UI no doubt depends on how well it's implemented ;) 16:26:26 <aleth> Another thing to consider: how to deal with contacts that don't have pictures, and how to deal with chats like IRC channels 16:27:01 <kapy_> i didn't mean that the ui is bad or something 16:27:13 <kapy_> its great and simple 16:27:27 --> paphos has joined #instantbird 16:27:51 * clokep_work finds it hard to believe we're talking about GSoC 15 already. :-S 16:28:24 <kapy_> yeah, i know you people have worked hard and i'm grateful to you people for maintaining this project 16:28:31 <aleth> kapy_: I'll be happy to try it when you have it working ;) 16:28:49 <kapy_> yeah, sure 16:29:31 <aleth> Whether it would work *as a gsoc project* we would have to discuss further 16:30:00 --> shashank has joined #instantbird 16:30:00 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 16:31:42 <aleth> You'd need a mentor, a fully worked our proposal, etc 16:31:52 <aleth> s/our/out 16:32:05 <-- paphos has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:32:28 <kapy_> why ? 16:32:33 * shashank is now known as paphos 16:32:44 <aleth> Because there is an application process? 16:34:50 <aleth> There's a difference between "is this a feasible thing to code for Instantbird" and "is it a good gsoc project", and I was talking about the first question. Sorry to have caused confusion 16:35:22 <kapy_> oh sorry i thought you have written you'd not 16:35:49 <kapy_> sorry it was a misunderstanding 16:36:08 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 16:36:24 <kapy_> yeah i would need a mentor and a proposal 16:38:01 <aleth> It's generally a good idea if you're considering gsoc with Instantbird to look for an existing bug and fix it, to get some familiarity with the codebase and the way we work. 16:43:33 <kapy_> yeah right 16:44:29 * clokep_work wonders if it's reasonable to check in some of those chat things? 16:46:18 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 16:47:50 <aleth> clokep_work: sure 16:48:31 <kapy_> aleth can you send me the link for mentored bugs for instantbird so that i can start with 16:49:44 <aleth> We don't really have a good list 16:50:06 <clokep_work> aleth: We do in fact. ;) 16:50:18 <aleth> There's https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=first%20bug&product=Chat%20Core&product=Instantbird&product=Instantbird%20Servers&list_id=11453025 but you can just browse bugzilla really and ask whether something that you would like to see fixed is doable 16:50:31 <clokep_work> kapy_: http://www.joshmatthews.net/bugsahoy/?instantbird=1 16:50:42 <aleth> Not much UI stuff on there. 16:50:46 <clokep_work> But I'd suggest finding something *you'd* like to see fixed. :) 16:50:56 <kapy_> thanks 16:50:59 <kapy_> awesome guyz 16:56:21 <kapy_> hey what is this - CTCP VERSION from clokep_work 16:57:03 <clokep_work> kapy_: I was curious what IRC client you were using. 16:57:15 <clokep_work> Why your client is actually showing you that you'll need to take up with them. 16:58:02 <kapy_> i'm using AdilRC :) 16:59:49 <clokep_work> I noticed. 17:05:44 --> myk has joined #instantbird 17:05:52 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird 17:19:35 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:19:46 <instant-buildbot> build #103 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful] Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/103 17:23:56 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 17:26:39 <clokep_work> Coo coo coo! 17:26:39 <-- paphos has quit (Connection closed) 17:26:48 <clokep_work> Uhh missing some Ls in there. (o_O) 17:26:51 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 17:27:07 --> paphos has joined #instantbird 17:29:37 <-- Bollebib has quit (Connection closed) 17:29:40 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 17:34:19 <-- kapy_ has quit (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)) 17:34:47 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 17:36:01 * clokep_work wonders what https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/bb0fb5a2d6fd is about 17:36:17 <clokep_work> aleth: Looks like JosiahOne beat you to it. :) 17:36:42 <Mook_as> IIRC, Windows now does opt-in to newer version's features 17:36:51 <aleth> clokep_work: great, I don't have time atm 17:37:09 <Mook_as> so for every OS release you need to add a guid in there to say "yep, I've heard of Windows X" 17:40:20 <clokep_work> Mook_as: That's dumb. :( 17:40:23 <clokep_work> We'll need to port hat then. 17:42:31 <-- bernard has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 17:43:47 <Mook_as> Unfortunately, I don't know of a non-dumb solution to the general problem of backwards compatibility 17:45:05 <flo-retina> that doesn't seem very new to me 17:45:14 <flo-retina> Windows XP already had a similar annoyance 17:45:14 <-- paphos has quit (Connection closed) 17:45:38 --> paphos has joined #instantbird 17:45:49 <Mook_as> XP was the thing to opt into common controls, right? 17:46:34 --> kapy_ has joined #instantbird 17:47:06 <kapy_> hey i have unbundled comm-central.hg and pulled the latest updates 17:47:19 <kapy_> how do i build it 17:48:01 <kapy_> i have also set mozconfig to ac_add_options --enable-application=im 17:48:23 <aleth> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Instantbird_build 17:58:39 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 17:58:39 <-- paphos has quit (Connection closed) 17:59:02 --> paphos has joined #instantbird 18:00:29 <clokep_work> aleth: Just an FYI, I do try to keep that page as identical to Simple Thunderbird Build as possible... 18:00:37 <flo-retina> Mook_as: I remember we had to bundle XML manifests into executable files for things to look reasonable 18:01:10 <aleth> clokep_work: I will happily make the same changes to the TB page. 18:01:17 <aleth> Obsolete stuff is obsolete. 18:03:40 <Mook_as> Dunno, "looking like Win95" can be considered reasonable... :p 18:04:42 <flo-retina> Mook_as: at the time you probably had to opt in to not look like Win3.1 :-P 18:08:28 <clokep_work> aleth: Thanks! :) 18:14:43 * mconley is now known as mconley|away 18:14:43 <-- paphos has quit (Connection closed) 18:14:50 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:15:29 --> paphos has joined #instantbird 18:22:35 <flo-retina> re bug 1026784, do you all have any preference for mainpopupset or mainPopupSet? 18:22:38 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1026784 tri, --, ---, kpsingh201091, NEW, Remove the <popupset id="mainpopupset"> element from the blist.xul DOM 18:24:58 <flo-retina> hmm, probably better to keep the ids as they were in the window .xul files, and change them in the overlays, so that we don't "break" existing add-ons 18:27:29 <clokep_work> flo-retina: That pref doesn't even exist for me. 18:27:29 <-- paphos has quit (Connection closed) 18:27:47 <kapy_> to build instantbird i need to run ./mozilla/mach build 18:27:52 --> paphos has joined #instantbird 18:27:53 <flo-retina> clokep_work: it's not a "preference" 18:27:58 <flo-retina> I was asking what you prefer :-/ 18:28:06 <flo-retina> but I think I made my mind already 18:28:07 <clokep_work> flo-retina: You asked for a preference! :-D 18:28:09 <kapy_> but there is no mach in comm-central 18:28:23 <clokep_work> kapy_: I don't see a question in there? 18:28:36 <clokep_work> flo-retina: I agree, change the overlays. 18:29:30 <kapy_> if there is no mach how do i build it ? 18:30:02 <clokep_work> kapy_: Didn't you just find ./mozilla/mach? :-S 18:30:11 <clokep_work> kapy_: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Simple_Instantbird_build#Building_Instantbird 18:31:48 <-- myk has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:31:48 <-- paphos has quit (Connection closed) 18:31:51 --> myk has joined #instantbird 18:32:07 --> paphos has joined #instantbird 18:34:10 <-- paphos has quit (Quit: WeeChat 0.4.0) 18:37:01 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 18:43:10 --> bernard has joined #instantbird 18:44:37 <clokep_work> (kapy_ if that's not clear, please ask questions. But please make sure you read it closely first!) 18:45:18 <kapy_> yeah, i'm currently reading the instructions 18:47:26 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 18:49:03 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 18:51:47 * mconley|away is now known as mconley 18:52:55 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 955391 from --- to INCOMPLETE. 18:52:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=955391 nor, --, ---, nobody, RESO INCOMPLETE, Missing Twitter Messages 18:53:40 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 19:10:11 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 19:10:18 <-- sonny has quit (Connection closed) 19:14:41 <-- kapy_ has quit (Quit: Going offline, see ya! (www.adiirc.com)) 19:19:22 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 19:23:30 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:24:17 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:30:08 --> aleth has joined #instantbird 19:30:08 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 19:31:26 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:56:54 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 19:56:54 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 19:58:57 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 19:59:26 --> myk has joined #instantbird 20:00:27 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 20:02:19 * aleth wonders what this is about "Failed to load native module at path '/Applications/Instantbird.app/Contents/Resources/components/libxpcomsample.dylib': (80004005) <unknown; can't get error from NSPR>" 20:05:29 <instantbot> New Chat Core - IRC bug 1089809 filed by aleth@instantbird.org. 20:05:30 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1089809 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Unhandled IRC modes +rx 20:06:41 --> sawrubh has joined #instantbird 20:11:03 <clokep_work> Patch coming up? ;) 20:13:06 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 20:16:00 * aleth ponders marking it [good first bug] 20:16:22 <aleth> but IRC modes are hardly good 20:18:12 <flo-retina> that's why it's not [first good bug] ;) 20:19:56 <aleth> ahaha 20:22:40 <-- BillBinkley has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 20:23:03 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird 20:26:27 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:30:38 <clokep_work> aleth: I did something similar with another IRC modes bug earlier. :-D 20:30:41 <clokep_work> Mark yourself as a mentor. :P 20:30:47 <aleth> I did. 20:31:08 <aleth> In the spirit of sharing the pain, or at least the mode list URL 20:33:43 <clokep_work> :) 20:33:51 <clokep_work> If I do it...can I ask you questions? ;) 20:34:09 <clokep_work> And complain about how awful that code is? 20:34:40 <aleth> If you like ;) 20:35:15 <aleth> I don't think the mode code is worse than the messiness that is IRC modes. It can hardly be better 20:38:11 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:39:27 <aleth> User mode +x: User receives notices about servers connecting/disconnecting 20:39:29 <aleth> really? 20:39:46 * aleth hasn't received any info like that 20:41:16 <aleth> +r has three conflicting meanings depending on which software the server is running 20:41:23 <aleth> yay, irc ;) 20:43:16 --> myk1 has joined #instantbird 20:43:19 <Mook_as> for the mozilla.org server, at least, +x is cloak (just like unreal): https://wiki.inspircd.org/User_Modes 20:43:44 <aleth> Mook_as: ah, that explains it, +x has conflicting meanings too ;) 20:43:47 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:45:01 <Mook_as> it sounds like it would be easier to figure out which modes _don't_ have conflicting meanings 20:45:21 <Mook_as> (... which is still ~impossible unless you have a survey of all ircds of course) 20:45:49 <aleth> There's this https://www.alien.net.au/irc/usermodes.html but as you've just demonstrated, it's incomplete 20:46:17 <aleth> The blue ones don't conflict 20:46:55 <Mook_as> Right; in this case, it matches ircu/Unreal ("host hiding") 20:47:20 <aleth> Yes 20:47:34 <aleth> "+k: The client is a God." interesting... 20:48:42 <aleth> Hmm, +Q would probably break us quite badly 20:53:13 <flo-retina> what is it? 20:53:35 <aleth> "Forces an Oper to appear to part all channels, however still receives messages." 20:55:17 * myk1 is now known as myk 21:00:25 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 21:04:54 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:16:26 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 21:20:52 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:53:51 --> flo-linux has joined #instantbird 21:55:12 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 21:55:33 <-- flo-linux has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 21:59:17 <aleth> ^^ weird quit message 22:01:25 <EionRobb> what was the quit message? 22:01:59 <aleth> "A TLS packet with unexpected length was received" 22:02:04 <aleth> Sounds like a shutdown bug 22:10:32 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 22:15:02 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:33:35 --> Rym_ has joined #instantbird 22:48:10 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 22:48:50 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 22:50:32 <-- Rym_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:51:08 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 22:59:55 --> clokep has joined #instantbird 22:59:55 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 23:02:44 <-- sherief has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:04:06 <-- bernard has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 23:09:32 <flo-retina> aleth: seems to be what we had as "I/O error" before 23:09:43 <flo-retina> and yes, I shutdown the machine and forgot Instantbird was running 23:10:11 <aleth> yes :-S I had hoped that bug had disappeared 23:10:12 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 23:10:23 <aleth> But it's probably just Linux-only 23:10:50 <Mook_as> Is that actually controlled by the client, or the IRC server? 23:11:42 <aleth> It's the socket not sending all the pending data (we think) 23:12:18 * clokep shrugs. 23:12:24 <clokep> You still quit OK . ;) 23:12:27 <aleth> And so moznet 1.0 said "I/O error" and moznet 2.0 says "packet with unexpected length" 23:13:00 * clokep wants to checkin stuff soon... 23:13:04 <clokep> But I need to do a few errands first 23:14:21 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:26:52 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird 23:32:58 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:33:44 <-- sawrubh has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 23:34:37 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 23:42:40 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)