#instantbird log on 10 15 2014

All times are UTC.

00:13:26 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
00:35:42 --> Widdershins has joined #instantbird
00:43:25 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed)
00:46:35 <-- sherief has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.)
01:09:23 <-- Mook_as has quit (Client exited)
01:14:13 --> redDragon has joined #instantbird
01:19:18 --> mconley has joined #instantbird
01:33:25 --> clokep_wp8 has joined #instantbird
01:33:46 <-- clokep_wp8 has quit (Connection closed)
01:45:13 --> clokep_wp8 has joined #instantbird
01:50:25 <-- clokep_wp8 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
01:50:27 --> clokep_wp8 has joined #instantbird
01:54:28 <-- clokep_wp8 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
01:59:28 --> clokep_wp8 has joined #instantbird
02:01:13 <-- clokep_wp8 has quit (Connection closed)
02:38:32 --> Mook has joined #instantbird
03:27:22 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed)
03:32:04 --> clokep has joined #instantbird
03:32:05 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 
03:41:02 <instant-buildbot> build #1550 of win32-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/win32-nightly-default/builds/1550
03:45:12 --> myk has joined #instantbird
03:49:39 <instant-buildbot> build #1192 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1192
03:55:22 <Widdershins> I have to say, it's a bit of a pain
03:55:53 <Widdershins> if you have two accounts on the same network that share a common contact you can't choose which account you send from / start a conversation from
03:56:14 <Widdershins> In fact the buddy list UI doesn't seem to distinguish between them at all and only shows the one
03:56:36 <clokep> Yes.
03:56:47 <clokep> It's a known issue. There's a bug filed IIRC.
03:56:56 <Widdershins> oh! coolio
03:56:58 <clokep> Widdershins: You might be able to change who you're using with the protocol selector, I forget.
03:57:14 <clokep> (Just cause it's known doesn't mean anyone is actually looking at fixing it btw. ;))
03:57:26 <Widdershins> yeah i checked that; you can change to different networks and contacts grouped/aliased to the same person just fine
03:58:12 <Widdershins> but if I have my friend Adam on gtalk added with both of my gtalk accounts and sign in with both, it doesn't recognize there's a difference
03:58:25 <clokep> Yes, I understand the issue you're tlaking about.
03:58:25 <Widdershins> you can force it by signing out of the one you don't want or having them convo you first -_-
03:58:28 <Widdershins> yeah
04:07:23 --> sherief has joined #instantbird
04:14:11 --> mconley has joined #instantbird
04:15:54 <instant-buildbot> build #2383 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2383
04:18:40 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed)
04:26:42 <instant-buildbot> build #87 of linux64-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux64-nightly-default/builds/87
04:42:22 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
05:51:50 --> sonny has joined #instantbird
06:15:18 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird
06:56:40 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
06:56:40 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
07:02:56 <-- aleth has quit (Quit: exit stage left)
07:02:59 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
07:02:59 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
07:16:57 <-- Mook has quit (Client exited)
07:53:17 --> Armada has joined #instantbird
08:11:45 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird
08:15:37 <-- BillBinkley has quit (Connection closed)
08:19:47 <-- Armada has quit (Connection closed)
08:31:18 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird
08:34:12 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died)
08:41:06 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird
09:00:32 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird
09:06:55 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird
09:20:28 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com)
09:32:14 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
09:43:37 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
09:46:31 <-- Tonnes has quit (Connection closed)
09:52:16 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird
10:06:22 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.)
10:06:34 --> hadi has joined #instantbird
10:12:10 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird
10:17:04 --> Tonnes has joined #instantbird
10:25:40 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
10:25:46 <-- hadi has quit (Connection closed)
10:31:33 --> Rym has joined #instantbird
10:35:14 --> hadi has joined #instantbird
10:40:34 <-- redDragon has quit (Client exited)
10:50:59 <-- hadi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
11:11:21 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited)
11:11:31 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird
11:17:10 --> Armada has joined #instantbird
11:19:50 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
11:21:06 --> Rym has joined #instantbird
11:28:04 --> hadi has joined #instantbird
11:39:13 <-- hadi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
11:42:06 --> hadi has joined #instantbird
11:42:33 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
11:42:34 --> sonny1 has joined #instantbird
11:43:47 <-- Widdershins has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
11:44:37 --> redDragon has joined #instantbird
11:47:12 <-- sonny1 has quit (Connection closed)
11:47:56 --> BillBinkley has joined #instantbird
12:15:27 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited)
12:15:58 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird
12:15:58 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 
12:16:51 <flo-retina> random comments while reading the log from yesterday:
12:16:53 <flo-retina> clokep: there's a checkbox somewhere in the Mac system preferences to make checkbox (and more generally) all UI controls tab-able. By default only text fields are tab-able on Mac. Look for something called "universal access" or similar.
12:17:21 <flo-retina> clokep, hadi: that discussion you had yesterday about proxies is very confused. The dialog that doesn't work is related to the proxy settings for libpurple. Whatever you set in that dialog won't apply to IRC accounts anyway.
12:17:22 <clokep> flo-retina: Interesting. :)
12:17:53 <clokep> Yeah, I assumed he wanted proxies for other acounts.
12:18:26 <flo-retina> clokep: he said he would need to change his IRC client if he couldn't set that proxy
12:18:41 <clokep> I must have missed that.
12:19:11 <hadi> hii
12:19:48 <flo-retina> clokep: this morning I was wondering if we need to support X-OAUTH2 on gtalk
12:19:54 <hadi> Yes i wanted  to set a proxy to go through tor to connect to oftc and synirc, and not possibly freenode and mozilla
12:20:05 <clokep> flo-retina: I was wondering that last week, there was a conversation in #maildev about it.
12:20:08 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
12:20:08 <flo-retina> clokep: I had an account refuse to login with the "check your password" message
12:20:18 <clokep> Ah, like the one I had last week?
12:20:25 <flo-retina> clokep: the actual problem is that I tried to login that account with Instantbird from an IP in Toronto
12:20:28 * clokep is confused. :-S my builds keep failing w/ no obvious errors.
12:20:43 <hadi> Lilith guided me through the  conf editor, i just read the github page of the instantbird tor conf, and manually  editted items one by one, now all my irc  accounts go through  the same local proxy
12:20:44 <flo-retina> and that Google will only accept that if the web UI has been used before from that address (or a nearby address)
12:21:37 <clokep> Right.
12:21:56 <flo-retina> but the oauth UI is annoying in general
12:22:10 <flo-retina> so I was wondering if we should implement oauth pref'ed off, with a checkbox in the account details
12:22:23 <flo-retina> and that idea pissed me off (confusing setting that no real user could understand)
12:22:39 <clokep> I agree. It's like the discussion we had about choosing which IRC auth to use.
12:22:41 <clokep> There's no reason for it.
12:23:17 --> Rym has joined #instantbird
12:25:32 <flo-retina> If only the XMPP stanza had a different error message, we could fallback to oauth automatically when the IP gets blocked
12:25:42 <flo-retina> but doing it whenever the user has entered a wrong password would suck
12:31:44 <-- flo-retina has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.)
12:39:58 <clokep> Right. :-\ Bleh. I don't want to ALWAYS use oauth.
12:41:16 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird
12:41:16 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 
12:42:46 <clokep> flo-retina: The fastmail guys were talking to people in #maildev the other day that they'll also be deploying OAUTH for IMAP (like Google is doing...)
12:42:54 <clokep> Seems like it's becoming more of a "thing".
12:43:12 <clokep> (One of those guys is here btw he might talk to us about XMPP or something...)
12:46:37 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
12:47:04 <-- hadi has quit (Connection closed)
12:49:42 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
12:52:26 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird
13:01:30 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
13:04:45 --> qheaden has joined #instantbird
13:05:57 <-- redDragon has quit (Client exited)
13:09:48 --> clokep has joined #instantbird
13:09:48 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 
13:12:20 --> sonny has joined #instantbird
13:43:47 --> hadi has joined #instantbird
13:59:23 <-- hadi has quit (Connection closed)
14:01:19 --> redDragon has joined #instantbird
14:17:26 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird
14:19:14 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
14:21:40 --> clokep has joined #instantbird
14:21:40 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep 
14:34:29 --> nhnt11-tb has joined #instantbird
14:34:43 <-- nhnt11-tb has quit (Client exited)
14:36:24 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird
14:36:24 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 
14:39:56 <flo-retina> clokep, nhnt11: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/chat-webrtc
14:52:51 <-- Armada has quit (Connection closed)
14:55:12 --> nhnt11-tb has joined #instantbird
14:59:47 <-- nhnt11-tb has quit (Client exited)
15:06:05 --> sawrubh has joined #instantbird
15:12:20 * Fallen|away is now known as Fallen 
15:36:20 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
15:45:00 <-- sherief has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
16:01:57 --> Rym has joined #instantbird
16:08:31 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
16:11:31 --> mconley has joined #instantbird
16:12:05 --> mconley_ has joined #instantbird
16:14:35 <-- sonny has quit (Connection closed)
16:14:44 --> sonny has joined #instantbird
16:15:36 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
16:21:18 --> Armada has joined #instantbird
16:27:11 --> hadi has joined #instantbird
16:27:44 <hadi> test
16:28:19 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
16:28:19 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
16:35:31 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird
16:59:45 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
17:04:29 --> Mook_as has joined #instantbird
17:09:33 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
17:09:33 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
17:13:46 <-- sawrubh has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
17:20:47 <clokep> hadi: Your test work?
17:24:04 <-- nhnt11 has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.)
17:24:44 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird
17:29:58 <-- sonny has quit (Connection closed)
17:30:05 --> sonny has joined #instantbird
17:39:06 --> nhnt11-tb has joined #instantbird
17:40:05 <-- nhnt11-tb has quit (Client exited)
17:42:42 <-- redDragon has quit (Client exited)
17:43:29 * mconley_ is now known as mconley 
18:01:59 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
18:11:50 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died)
18:27:57 --> Rym has joined #instantbird
18:32:28 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
18:35:42 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 1083362 filed by clokep@gmail.com.
18:35:43 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1083362 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Conversation window header broken on Windows
18:37:48 <clokep> Hello aleth!
18:37:54 <clokep> Thanks for the quick patch. :)
18:39:31 <hadi> clokep:  yea, i'm connecting through Tor now
18:44:11 --> hadi1 has joined #instantbird
18:44:18 <-- hadi has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
18:47:50 --> myk has joined #instantbird
18:51:30 <-- sonny has quit (Connection closed)
18:54:00 * hadi1 is now known as hadi 
19:02:43 --> gerard-majax has joined #instantbird
19:03:11 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
19:14:47 --> sonny has joined #instantbird
19:16:16 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
19:17:05 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
19:17:54 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1004930 from --- to FIXED.
19:17:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1004930 enh, --, 1.6, mayanktg, RESO FIXED, Generic way to add buttons for actions to a conversation
19:18:14 <arlolra> clokep: did that just land?
19:18:20 <clokep> arlolra: It did!
19:18:21 <clokep> Just for you.
19:18:32 <arlolra> slash me does a little happy dance
19:24:57 <clokep> :)
19:25:03 <clokep> Maybe we should discuss UI at some point!
19:34:09 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird
19:35:00 --> mconley_ has joined #instantbird
19:37:59 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
19:39:13 --> sonny1 has joined #instantbird
19:41:48 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
19:51:59 <flo-retina> clokep: the initial TB patch was http://queze.net/goinfre/webrtc-demo/thunderbird-webrtc/931706bc0ce9
20:05:21 <clokep> flo-retina, nhnt11: https://bitbucket.org/clokep/cc-webrtc-patches
20:07:55 <flo-retina> is |hg clone --mq <repo URL>| the right thing to do?
20:08:59 <flo-retina> doesn't look like it
20:18:05 --> BWMerlin has joined #instantbird
20:20:20 --> myk has joined #instantbird
20:28:01 --> hadi1 has joined #instantbird
20:29:32 <-- hadi has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
20:30:03 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection closed)
20:32:03 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird
20:34:34 <-- hadi1 has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
20:36:41 <-- EionRobb has quit (Connection closed)
20:42:01 <arlolra> clokep, flo-retina: if you guys want to set a day/time to discuss UI elements, let me know
20:46:13 <flo-retina> arlolra: we are both in Toronto for the rest of the week. So if you want to set aside like half an hour to do a video call to discuss it, that may be possible
20:47:57 <arlolra> sure, just let me know when would be reasonable. I'm 3hrs behind Toronto
20:48:03 <arlolra> and today probably isn't good :(
20:49:30 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird
21:02:55 <-- mconley_ has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
21:03:23 --> mconley has joined #instantbird
21:13:57 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
21:19:57 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited)
21:21:55 <-- Tonnes has quit (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.91 [Firefox 33.0/20141011015303])
21:39:33 --> myk has joined #instantbird
21:47:04 <-- Bollebib has quit (Connection closed)
21:50:07 <clokep> arlolra: Maybe tomorrow, we're hacking on WebRTC stuff mostly.
21:52:49 <arlolra> clokep: sounds good. I'll try and put together a list of things to review this evening
21:53:21 <clokep> arlolra: Cool! :)
21:54:38 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed)
21:55:06 --> mconley has joined #instantbird
21:59:08 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
21:59:12 <-- mconley has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
22:00:14 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
22:00:55 --> sherief has joined #instantbird
22:02:01 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
22:02:01 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
22:02:41 <-- Even has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
22:03:00 <-- sherief has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.)
22:03:43 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 
22:05:20 --> chrisccoulson has joined #instantbird
22:08:12 --> hadi has joined #instantbird
22:08:19 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
22:10:44 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
22:10:44 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
22:13:39 <-- aleth has quit (Connection closed)
22:13:58 --> aleth has joined #instantbird
22:13:58 * ChanServ sets mode +o aleth 
22:39:53 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
22:40:11 <-- aleth has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
22:56:16 --> Widdershins has joined #instantbird
23:01:07 --> myk has joined #instantbird
23:06:21 <-- hadi has quit (Connection closed)
23:06:39 --> hadi has joined #instantbird
23:06:51 <-- hadi has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com)
23:13:30 --> hadi has joined #instantbird
23:35:16 <-- Armada has quit (Connection closed)
23:41:31 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
23:42:22 --> clokep_ has joined #instantbird
23:42:22 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_ 
23:45:21 <-- clokep has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds)
23:52:31 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited)