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Great post! :) 10:30:13 <flo-retina> clokep: typo: "way back when we things were more dangerous" 10:30:27 <clokep> flo-retina: Thanks. :) 10:30:32 <-- EionRobb has quit (Quit: Leaving.) 10:30:35 <flo-retina> "Iâve since added IRC support" is slightly exagerated. 10:30:36 <clokep> Yeah I wrote that in July and never posted it. 10:30:41 <clokep> True! 10:30:42 <flo-retina> we had libpurple irc since 0.1.1 10:31:01 <flo-retina> well, we had libpurple irc in 0.1, but it couldn't join chat rooms (yet) :) 10:31:57 <clokep> Hah, I'm not sure that counts then. ;) 10:32:09 <flo-retina> 0.1.1 could join channels ;) 10:32:16 <clokep> But yeah, poor word choice on my part. 10:32:26 <flo-retina> you may want to make the link on my name point to my current blog, rather than the old one that isn't updated anymore 10:32:47 <clokep> https://bugzil.la/1074711 is the build issue I was running into yesterday. 10:33:51 <flo-retina> clokep: ah, that error you had was on Windows? 10:34:17 <clokep> Yes 10:34:26 <flo-retina> I didn't notice yesterday 10:34:35 * flo-retina was probably really tired 10:36:00 <flo-retina> so for that application.ini.h crap... I'm wondering if we can find a reasonable solution, or if I should just hack something ugly and let the hackometer explode 10:36:07 <clokep> The solution is "use mozmake directly instead of mach" 10:36:19 <flo-retina> ok, that's fine with me as a solution :-D 10:36:28 <clokep> Except now I'm hitting some other bustage. 10:36:43 <clokep> What's the issue again? You can't override the URL for crash stats? 10:36:50 <flo-retina> right 10:37:03 <flo-retina> the URL is in a file in m-c, not c-c :-/ 10:39:39 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 10:40:37 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:41:34 <clokep> :-\ What's the ugly hack? 10:41:44 <clokep> Why is that not in a pref? :-S 10:43:10 <flo-retina> clokep: my guess is: because we can crash before the prefs service is initialized 10:43:19 <flo-retina> I don't have a working-ugly-hack yet 10:43:41 <flo-retina> but I'm thinking of adding makefile rules to generate the .h file a bit earlier, and then use sed to replace the URL in there 10:44:01 <clokep> Nice. 10:44:35 <clokep> Is it worth asking whoever controls that stuff if there's a better way? 10:45:04 <flo-retina> we could maybe get a add configure-time variable added 10:45:21 <flo-retina> there are certainly better ways if we are willing to patch m-c 10:45:23 --> iamjayakumars__ has joined #instantbird 10:45:32 <flo-retina> but I'm not fully sure of what the problem exactly is yet. 10:45:44 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:45:55 <flo-retina> I was too tired to debug broken makefiles yesterday, nothing made sense anymore so I went to bed. 10:47:48 <-- iamjayakumars__ has quit (Connection closed) 10:49:04 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 10:49:43 <clokep> That's a good idea, yes. 10:51:15 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 10:53:15 <-- redDragon has quit (Client exited) 10:53:31 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 10:56:24 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 10:56:35 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 11:03:16 --> Armada has joined #instantbird 11:04:48 --> iamjayakumars__ has joined #instantbird 11:05:37 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:09:59 <-- iamjayakumars__ has quit (Quit: ) 11:23:17 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 11:31:44 <-- flo-retina has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:42:37 * Fallen is now known as Fallen|away 11:43:13 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 11:47:42 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:55:27 <-- nhnt11 has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 11:57:58 --> clokep_work has joined #instantbird 11:57:59 * ChanServ sets mode +o clokep_work 11:59:54 <clokep_work> Interesting. 11:59:59 <clokep_work> APparently TB OS X is green. 12:00:14 <clokep_work> After landing only half those patches for the signing changes. 12:20:44 --> nhnt11 has joined #instantbird 12:24:27 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 12:33:18 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 12:33:19 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 12:37:22 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 12:37:34 <-- sonny has quit (Connection closed) 12:39:28 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 12:41:51 <-- BWMerlin has quit (Client exited) 12:41:51 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:12:14 <-- Armada has quit (Connection closed) 13:31:29 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 13:35:00 <clokep_work> So my IB isn't signing into GTalk anymore. 13:35:12 <clokep_work> The last message is <failure xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-sasl"> <temporary-auth-failure xmlns="urn:ietf:params:xml:ns:xmpp-sasl"/></failure> 13:35:59 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:37:41 <flo-retina> well, the message says it's "temporary" so I guess there's not much that can be done about it. 13:38:17 <clokep_work> The error in the account manager is "Error: Not authorized (Did you enter the wrong password?)" 13:38:18 <clokep_work> That seems wrong. 13:38:33 <clokep_work> Especailly cause it doesn't attempt to keep reconnecting. 13:42:42 * clokep_work can file a bug if we agree. :) 13:43:17 <flo-retina> the code is http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/chat/protocols/xmpp/xmpp-session.jsm#330 right? 13:43:23 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 13:44:58 <clokep_work> Yes. 13:45:00 <clokep_work> I think. 13:57:26 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 13:57:32 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 14:18:56 --> BillBinkley has joined #instantbird 14:25:43 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 14:26:53 --> myk has joined #instantbird 14:30:11 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:32:45 --> sherief has joined #instantbird 14:49:26 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 14:50:04 --> myk has joined #instantbird 14:50:27 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 14:54:56 <-- Rym has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:00:39 <-- myk has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 15:19:15 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 15:19:18 --> Rym has joined #instantbird 15:19:38 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 15:22:04 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 15:23:51 --> hadi has joined #instantbird 15:31:20 <hadi> I forgot something, how do i suggest some features that fixes some problems..? 15:33:45 <clokep_work> hadi: Bugzilla? Or talk to us ahead of time if it's vague. 15:33:51 <clokep_work> Please search first. 15:33:57 <clokep_work> (Before filing.) 15:34:24 <hadi> clokep_work: ok here's the.. kinda small problem. some channels in IRC, only accept users that are already registered. If you join them without being registered, they are empty/null, kind of 15:35:20 <hadi> clokep_work: here comes the problem. if you put that channel in auto join, and your auto identify is also on, because the joining is faster than identification, (maybe its because of my net speed), basically you mis that channel and have to rejoin it 15:37:21 <hadi> So maybe a setting needs to be implemented, that delays the auto joining? 15:38:34 <clokep_work> hadi: I'd focus on problems, not on solutions. 15:39:11 <clokep_work> And I can almost guarantee adding more options is not a good solution. :-D 15:39:14 <hadi> clokep_work: Not sure how ... it should be approached, maybe this is happening because my net is slow, and i have connected to 9 networks 15:39:43 <hadi> clokep_work: do you have any ideas.. what could be done? 15:40:39 <clokep_work> hadi: There's a handful of ideas that come to mind. 15:44:24 <clokep_work> You could react and try to rejoin rooms that failed for that reason after getting a successful ident. 15:44:50 <-- BillBinkley has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 15:48:58 <flo-retina> clokep_work: are we (intentionally) processing auto-join before the identification process is over? 16:12:05 <-- gerard-majax has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 16:15:51 <clokep_work> flo-retina: They're async to each other. 16:15:59 <clokep_work> flo-retina: For SASL identiciation will happen first though. 16:16:07 <clokep_work> Only if NickServ is used will they be unrelated. 16:16:22 <clokep_work> I think moving auto-join *after* a lot of other things might be a good change in general. 16:16:27 <flo-retina> that doesn't seem correct to me. 16:16:29 <clokep_work> (I.e. your issues with NickServ on freenode.) 16:16:42 <clokep_work> flo-retina: It's kind of hard to know *if* you will even be identified. 16:16:42 <flo-retina> because chanserv will auto-op on enter only if you are already identified 16:16:59 <clokep_work> That's likely true, yes. 16:17:16 <clokep_work> Auto-join is processed "outside" of the IRC code though, so...it has no control on that. 16:17:40 <flo-retina> clokep_work: isn't it processed only once we report the account is connected? 16:18:00 <flo-retina> I think it would be reasonable to stay in the connecting status until we are identified (or have definitely failed to identify) 16:22:39 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 16:26:43 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Maybe. I'd have to think a little more about it. I guess if no password is given you just immediately give it. 16:26:59 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Connection closed) 16:27:02 --> iamjayakumars has joined #instantbird 16:27:32 --> myk has joined #instantbird 16:27:41 <flo-retina> hadi: feel free to file a bug :) 16:28:15 <clokep_work> I think we've discussed this before in fact! 16:28:23 <hadi> oh god i was not paying attention sorry 16:29:00 <hadi> flo-retina: nice i will 16:29:50 <flo-retina> clokep_work: yes, I think we did. 16:30:25 <hadi> Should i go to this site? 16:30:27 <hadi> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ 16:30:52 <hadi> Cause i remember it was a subdomain of instantbird.org or something 16:31:43 <clokep_work> hadi: The link is in the topic, but yes. 16:31:54 <clokep_work> We switched to using Mozilla's bugzilla. 16:45:35 --> redDragon has joined #instantbird 16:53:11 <-- sherief has quit (A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.) 17:07:53 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 17:21:35 --> Bollebib has joined #instantbird 18:04:14 --> flo-retina has joined #instantbird 18:04:14 * ChanServ sets mode +qo flo-retina flo-retina 18:04:39 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 18:28:47 <-- redDragon has quit (Client exited) 18:31:51 <-- iamjayakumars has quit (Quit: ) 18:40:40 --> mikk_s has joined #instantbird 18:44:07 <-- mikk_s has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 18:51:46 --> Armada has joined #instantbird 19:20:36 --> EionRobb has joined #instantbird 19:29:34 --> sawrubh has joined #instantbird 19:36:46 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:16:02 --> mpmc has joined #instantbird 20:17:44 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 20:25:47 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 20:37:21 <-- clokep_work has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:03:40 --> testit has joined #instantbird 21:08:17 <-- testit has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:09:57 <-- mpmc has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 21:18:48 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 21:28:23 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 21:33:47 <-- sawrubh has quit (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity) 22:01:32 --> sonny has joined #instantbird 22:07:35 <-- sonny has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:12:31 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 22:15:12 --> sawrubh has joined #instantbird 22:26:19 <-- arlolra has quit (Client exited) 22:29:53 <-- flo-retina has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.6a1pre -- http://www.instantbird.com) 22:38:07 <myk> instantbirders! which xmpp provider do you recommend? 22:40:53 <-- chrisccoulson has quit (Quit: OSError: [Errno 130] Owner died) 22:51:50 <-- qheaden has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 22:57:14 --> qheaden has joined #instantbird 23:05:18 --> mconley has joined #instantbird 23:08:29 --> clokep_wp8 has joined #instantbird 23:08:51 <clokep_wp8> myk: Jabber.org is what I use. 23:09:11 <clokep_wp8> + gtalk cause...i have to. 23:09:21 <myk> clokep_wp8: hmm, it isn't accepting registrations anymore; "June 25, 2013: We have temporarily disabled account registration at the jabber.org IM service while we migrate the account database to a new machine. We will enable the web registration form again as soon as possible! In the meantime, you can create an account at any other public XMPP service." 23:09:39 <-- clokep_wp8 has quit (Connection closed) 23:14:23 <-- mconley has quit (Connection closed) 23:30:01 <-- Suiseiseki has quit (Ping timeout: 121 seconds) 23:33:10 <clokep> Hmm...interesting. 23:33:16 <clokep> The guy I'd ask is not online right now. :( 23:41:01 --> arlolra has joined #instantbird 23:44:22 <-- Bollebib has quit (Quit: Instantbird 1.5 -- http://www.instantbird.com) 23:47:13 --> Suiseiseki has joined #instantbird