#instantbird log on 10 03 2014

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01:24:45 topic changed by ChanServ to "Ask about Instantbird (http://instantbird.com) here!|Current version is Instantbird 1.5! :) |News: http://blog.instantbird.org/ |Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (for testing only) |IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/ |Pastebin: http://pastebin.instantbird.org/ | Bugs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org"
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01:25:09 <EionRobb> wat
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02:55:25 <instant-buildbot> build #2369 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2369
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03:20:09 <instant-buildbot> build #1179 of linux-nightly-default is complete: Failure [4failed compile]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/linux-nightly-default/builds/1179
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03:44:43 <EionRobb> is there a command to run to resync permissions... I don't think I'm supposed to be an op
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03:48:29 <EionRobb> better
03:59:03 <Widdershins>  /names [channel] might work
03:59:49 <EionRobb> too late, I'm not an op anymore
03:59:58 <Widdershins> in any case i'm sure it depends on your client
04:00:08 <Widdershins> i haven't noticed any desyncs with hexchat
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10:21:15 <clokep> Lots of net splits this morning...
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10:31:51 <flo-retina> clokep: my error console is full of "Cannot remove a buddy that was not in the room: felipe" messages
10:32:36 <flo-retina> Warning: Unhandled IRC message: :fripp.mozilla.org 379 flo-retina flo-retina :is using modes +rx
10:32:36 <flo-retina> Any idea of what these modes mean?
10:33:33 <flo-retina> errr, my error console isn't full of message about felipe, the nick changes for each of these messages
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10:36:24 <clokep> Have you done a restart of Instantbird since the network swapped?
10:36:27 <clokep> Some it might be from that...
10:37:10 <Widdershins> i don't see anyone in the channel
10:37:12 <flo-retina> I filed https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1077357
10:37:14 <instantbot> Bug 1077357 nor, --, ---, infra, NEW, I appear half-op in a channel where I'm the founder
10:37:18 <Widdershins> er wait no sorry there he is
10:37:26 <clokep> flo-retina: You're in the HOP list (as is Morian)
10:37:44 <clokep> Even, me and aleth are in the AOP list though.
10:37:46 <Widdershins> EionRobb was mentioning seeing himself as an operator in the channel shortly after the infrastructure swap too
10:37:52 <clokep> But not Mic.
10:38:52 <flo-retina> Widdershins: that wasn't very surprising, there was an issue with ChanServ right after the network change
10:39:12 <flo-retina> clokep: isn't Mic in the HOP list?
10:39:48 <clokep> He sohuld be.
10:39:51 <Widdershins> flo-retina: all kinds of fun stuff going on ( °٢° )
10:40:17 <flo-retina> clokep: I would be happier if he was in the list of connected participants though ;)
10:41:16 <clokep> :)
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10:42:37 * clokep i shappy that Twitter bug is coming along. :)
10:42:44 <clokep> (The counter for TB.)
10:43:45 <Widdershins> anything that gets rid of tuberculosis is a plus
10:58:47 <clokep> Looks like we're completely busted today!
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11:17:58 <flo-retina> all build failed, but the 2 linux failures are actually our usual intermittent
11:18:12 <flo-retina> I guess we should fix that intermittent before thinking of releasing :-S
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11:58:38 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Were the other failures that bug I pointed out yesterday about the tier_apps thing?
11:58:44 <clokep_work> Or did that land before our nightlies?
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12:26:46 <flo-retina> clokep_work: for some reason that bug doesn't seem to break c-c (I don't understand why though)
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12:40:11 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Ah, weird.
12:40:16 <clokep_work> Well it should be fixed anyway.
12:40:37 <flo-retina> we should fix our existing bustages before attempting to fix potential future bustages :-/
12:43:04 <clokep_work> Yes. :(
12:43:12 <clokep_work> Do we have any idea about our current bustages.
12:43:20 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Sorry, I meant it was *already fixed* by glandium.
12:43:47 <clokep_work> http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/358616dd22ab
12:44:55 <clokep_work> Looks like the Windows bustage is....some NSS functions missing for SIPE? :-S
12:45:01 <clokep_work> I don't...understand how that would change?
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13:03:24 <atoll> (to observe, temporarily)
13:04:35 <flo-retina> atoll: hello :). You are welcome to stay if you want to ;).
13:04:52 <atoll> well, this is window 41, so i might reclaim it soon
13:04:57 <atoll> but thanks!
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13:09:21 <atoll> yay!
13:10:03 <flo-retina> thanks :)
13:10:23 <flo-retina> I suspect just removing me from the "HOP" list could have worked too.
13:10:56 <atoll> well, HOP is a lower access level, so you might have ended up with no privileges
13:11:01 <atoll> or at least no *auto* privs
13:11:09 <atoll> i didn't find the flags command until way late, so hard to say what it *was*
13:11:12 <atoll> but i'm glad it works
13:11:25 <flo-retina> It's strange that I was both founder and in the HOP list
13:11:26 <atoll> 9999 overrides HOP, which is ~7 or something
13:11:36 <atoll> yeah, founder and owner flags are independent from the access list
13:11:49 <atoll> you can use that privilege to alter access list, without being in it, approximately
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13:12:04 <atoll> i think flags is a much more accurate representation than access, will use it for others if this happens
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13:16:13 <clokep_work> Those list of flags looks like someone just slammed on a keyboard a bunch...
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13:18:49 <flo-retina> clokep_work: yeah, not very user readable :-/.
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13:32:45 <flo-retina> clokep_work: so to answer your earlier question about the bustages. On Windows I think it's a regression from your confvar.sh changes. On Mac it's a regression from the packaging changes (nobody actually looked into it AFAIK), on Linux it's just randomness when attempting to build two dynamic prpls at once.
13:33:22 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Ah, I wonder if we have to link to a different library now on Windows to get those symbols?
13:34:09 <flo-retina> clokep_work: maybe. But the more troubling thing is... WTF do we have SIPE errors when linking purplexpcom? Isn't SIPE expected to be a dynamic prpl on Windows?
13:34:48 <flo-retina> (or maybe SIPE has always been statically linked on Windows and I'm just confused :))
13:34:51 <clokep_work> Hmm...I keep forgetting what's dynamic where...
13:34:54 <clokep_work> I need a chart.
13:35:03 <flo-retina> we could do with a wiki page for that :-|
13:35:19 <flo-retina> null prpl is always dynamic, just to make debug builds fail when dynamic prpls are broken
13:35:25 <flo-retina> bonjour is dynamic only on Linux.
13:35:33 <clokep_work> flo-retina: SIPE is always static on WIndows: http://hg.mozilla.org/users/florian_queze.net/purple/file/d68bc86a6c7b/configure.in#l230
13:35:35 <flo-retina> SIPE I think is dynamic everywhere
13:35:41 <clokep_work> (And Mac FWIW)
13:35:51 <clokep_work> Nope, SIPE is only dynamic on Linux.
13:36:01 <flo-retina> ah!
13:36:08 <flo-retina> then I'm saying nonsense
13:36:13 <flo-retina> thanks for correcting me :)
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13:38:44 <flo-retina> clokep_work: so it's possible we just need to add more link flags
13:40:48 <clokep_work> Most likely.
13:40:53 <flo-retina> we have USE_LIBS += ['nss']
13:41:00 <flo-retina> at http://hg.mozilla.org/users/florian_queze.net/purple/file/d68bc86a6c7b/purplexpcom/src/moz.build#l45
13:41:19 <flo-retina> the missing symbols are part of nss: http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/security/nss/lib/nss/nss.def#198
13:42:30 <flo-retina> there's ../../../../config/external/nss/nss3.lib on the linker's command lien
13:42:31 <flo-retina> *line
13:42:57 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Does that file exist still? What libs get "folded" when using MOZ_FOLD_LIBS?
13:43:02 <clokep_work> I.e. http://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/574f4f9a619c#l1.24
13:43:41 <clokep_work> http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/config/external/nss/Makefile.in looks like NSS is one of those?
13:45:01 <flo-retina> given http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/modules/libmar/tests/Makefile.in#11 it probably still exists
13:45:06 <flo-retina> but maybe it's an empty shell
13:45:14 * clokep_work is confused by http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/config/external/sqlite/moz.build#14
13:45:56 <clokep_work> Ah I guess because of http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/source/db/sqlite3/src/moz.build#12, never mind ignore me.
13:46:32 <flo-retina> that definitely sounds like 'nss' still exists
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13:55:09 <clokep_work> Yeah. :-S
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14:18:32 <clokep_work> atoll: Is there anything tracking all these netsplits?
14:18:37 <atoll> yes
14:18:39 <clokep_work> Or is it from restarting servers?
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14:18:46 <atoll> it's definitely not something we intend to be happening
14:18:56 <clokep_work> Good to know! :-D
14:19:13 <clokep_work> Quick though, someone should make a patch that cleans up the system messages when net splits occur!
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14:37:27 <clokep_work> I'm getting weird errors in js/src/jsobj.h.
14:37:28 <clokep_work> WTF.
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15:50:23 <atoll> clokep_work: so that might be the end of it, hopefully.
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16:29:23 <clokep_work> atoll: Cool. :) Thanks.
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17:18:46 <instantbot> New Chat Core - IRC bug 1077561 filed by pzalewa@mozilla.com.
17:18:47 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1077561 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, No access to irc.mozilla.org
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