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01:20:14 topic changed by concrete.mozilla.org to "Ask about Instantbird (http://instantbird.com) here!|Current version is Instantbird 1.5! :) |News: http://blog.instantbird.org/ |Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (for testing only) |IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/ |Pastebin: http://pastebin.instantbird.org/ | Bugs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org"
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01:23:31 <Morian> Hey instantbot-next :)
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03:07:54 <clokep> flo-retina: I think it will, yes.
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10:28:42 * flo-retina wonders if someone feels like requesting a review just to test the bot :-D
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10:43:28 <aleth> instantbot?
10:43:29 <instantbot> (*
10:45:17 <aleth> flo-retina: Thanks for passing on njn's answer. It's odd though, I don't see much closures in the stats service
10:45:37 <flo-retina> I would say we have .bind() everywhere
10:45:50 <aleth> I've removed those and it makes no difference
10:46:00 <aleth> There weren't any that looked really bad anyway
10:46:07 <flo-retina> you removed ALL of them? :-o
10:46:26 <clokep> Do we need to port https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/40b2675d18b0?
10:46:49 <aleth> flo-retina: well, in ibConvStatsService ;)
10:48:01 <flo-retina> random guess: Could XPC_WN_NoMods_NoCall_Proto_JSClass be created when we give a function for an nsIObserver and xpconnect has to create a wrapper object?
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10:51:35 <aleth> I find it interesting that the amount of Function and the amount of XPC_WN_NoMods_NoCall_Proto_JSClass is almost the same
10:53:05 <aleth> I find it interesting that the amount of Function and the amount of XPC_WN_NoMods_NoCall_Proto_JSClass is almost the same
10:53:12 <clokep> Repeating yourself?
10:53:48 <flo-retina> aleth: that's also something I noticed
10:54:00 <flo-retina> aleth: I also noticed that in irc.js the amount of Proxy and of cross-compartment stuff is similar
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10:54:25 <aleth1> I find it interesting that the amount of Function and the amount of XPC_WN_NoMods_NoCall_Proto_JSClass is almost the same
10:54:46 <flo-retina> arg, aleth is looping :(
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10:55:55 <aleth> Looks like the logs aren't reaching logs.bezut.info...
10:56:12 <flo-retina> email instantbot?
10:56:27 <aleth> yup.
10:56:46 <flo-retina> aleth: http://pastebin.instantbird.com/880873
10:58:06 <aleth> Maybe bholley will have some ideas...
10:59:03 <Morian> aleth: they do here
10:59:05 <Morian> http://log.bezut.info/instantbird/140829/
10:59:17 <Morian> perhaps dns propagation time
10:59:40 <flo-retina> Morian: last message we see there is from 3:20am
11:00:07 <flo-retina> Morian: what's the new server? :)
11:00:21 <Morian> does the ip for log.bezut.info starts with 88 or 94?
11:00:33 <flo-retina> 88
11:01:01 <Morian> 88 is the old one
11:01:10 <flo-retina> ok :)
11:01:13 <Morian> I see 94 here
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11:01:39 <Morian> It will probably be the same for emails, in a few hours everything should be alright
11:01:57 <flo-retina> clokep: re "Do we need to port https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/40b2675d18b0?" I have no idea :-/. I don't even understand what that stuff does (or is expected to do).
11:02:01 <aleth> flo-retina: I guess the .. in MOZ_BUILD_APP is part of what makes pseudo-rework work, so probably hard to remove.
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11:02:50 <flo-retina> aleth: well, not that hard: https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/c90567e2d29c#l1.36 It just takes a subst ;)
11:03:06 <aleth> heh, that's just shorter than the comment ;)
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11:03:14 <flo-retina> indeed
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11:03:37 <Morian> instantbot's new home is one of these http://www.soyoustart.com/en/offers/e3-sat-3.xml
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11:04:22 <flo-retina> aleth: 
11:04:22 <flo-retina> │  │  │  │   │  ├───4.88 MB (01.19%) ++ class(Function)
11:04:22 <flo-retina> │  │  │  │   │  ├───4.75 MB (01.16%) ++ class(XPC_WN_NoMods_NoCall_Proto_JSClass)
11:04:22 <flo-retina> Interesting that these 2 (from the imConversations.js compartment) also more or less match
11:04:42 <Morian> actually a xen vm runing gentoo :)
11:05:16 * flo-retina didn't know instantbot loved gentoo :-D
11:05:42 <flo-retina> Morian: seems quite powerful :)
11:05:48 <aleth> flo-retina: oh, very interesting, that makes it likely it's a common pattern
11:06:31 <clokep> Gentoo? =-o
11:07:15 <aleth> someone likes compiling ;)
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11:07:55 <Morian> Yeah, I fell il love with gentoo about 2 years ago :), now I tend to have it everywhere.
11:08:41 <Morian> compilation time is not a problem, since I don't plan to have firefox or openoffice on my servers :)
11:09:52 * clokep suspects Florian was talking about the Linux kernel itself. :P
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11:39:24 <Morian> instantbot: time for a reboot-proof check :)
11:39:27 <instantbot> Morian: Sorry, I've no idea what 'time for a reboot-proof check :)' might be.
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11:42:37 topic changed by concrete.mozilla.org to "Ask about Instantbird (http://instantbird.com) here!|Current version is Instantbird 1.5! :) |News: http://blog.instantbird.org/ |Nightlies: http://nightly.instantbird.im/ (for testing only) |IRC logs: http://log.bezut.info/ |Pastebin: http://pastebin.instantbird.org/ | Bugs: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org"
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11:59:35 <clokep_work> Morian: Thanks btw. :)
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12:10:31 <nhnt11> Hello
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12:15:13 <clokep_work> Yay!
12:17:20 <nhnt11> Does "reboot proof" mean instantbot will come back automatically from now on?
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12:18:02 <flo-retina> I think it means instantbot will come back if the whole server ever reboots
12:18:15 <nhnt11> okay.
12:18:28 <Morian> Which is something I plan to do more often on a shiny new server
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12:19:20 <Morian> Otherwise it will come back automatically when the process quits... and probably won't be better on disconnections :(
12:19:57 <Morian> We'll see :)
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12:32:20 <instant-buildbot> build #2325 of macosx-nightly-default is complete: Success [3build successful]  Build details are at http://buildbot.instantbird.org/builders/macosx-nightly-default/builds/2325
12:35:14 <clokep_work> Ah, you restarted nightlies?
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12:46:42 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I fixed the bustages, and wanted to verify my Mac fix
12:47:50 <aleth> flo-retina: getting some answers about XPC_WN_NoMods_NoCall_Proto_JSClass over on #jsapi
12:51:05 <clokep_work> flo-retina: Thanks. :)
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12:51:27 <flo-retina> aleth: I'm not getting any understanding from these "answers" :(
12:52:08 <aleth> Me neither :-S
12:52:30 <aleth> And it doesn't explain the pattern.
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12:53:57 <aleth> The only thing it does suggest is that the XPC_... stuff are all the PossibleConv, PossibleChat etc objects.
12:54:27 <aleth> But I'm not confident about that
12:56:58 <flo-retina> aleth: they don't cross xpconnect, right?
12:57:11 <flo-retina> well, they probably do once they are displayed by the awesometab
12:57:24 <flo-retina> but not just when storing LIST results
12:58:38 <aleth> If I understand ms2ger right, this has nothing to do with crossing compartments. That's what's confusing me
12:59:06 <aleth> I think the LIST is a red herring. LIST is just the source of most of the entries in the stats service.
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13:00:51 <aleth> and still no clue as to what all those Functions are...
13:01:24 <flo-retina> aleth: I'm not sure what you mean by "LIST is a red herring".
13:01:42 <flo-retina> I suspect the amount of memory used is vaguely proportional to the number of list results we have.
13:02:03 <flo-retina> I mean having a freenode account would cause the stats service to use more than a moznet account
13:02:09 <aleth> What I mean is that the reason it's proportional is simply because there are many more LIST results than contacts ;)
13:02:25 <aleth> So looking at LIST specific stuff is likely not the key
13:02:31 <flo-retina> ok
13:02:52 <flo-retina> I didn't mean that we should look for LIST handling specifically. More that we should look for things that would happen for each LIST result
13:03:01 <aleth> Especially since the same pattern occurs in imConversations.js
13:03:20 <flo-retina> anyway. I just want the line number info ;)
13:03:28 <aleth> yes please :)
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13:04:34 <aleth> For imConversations, twice 4.8M seems a lot of memory too.
13:04:58 <aleth> I mean, the only thing there is a bunch of uiConvs that pass stuff along.
13:05:55 <aleth> You'd think...
13:07:02 <flo-retina> don't we store references to all messages there?
13:08:10 <aleth> sure, that's got to be it. I guess I'm just confused about where what memory is counted.
13:10:41 <aleth> There just don't seem to be many functions around there ;)
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13:56:13 <clokep_work> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=product%3AInstantbird%2Cchat%20sw%3A1.6&list_id=11078559 has a lot. :-\
13:56:29 <clokep_work> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=product%3AInstantbird%2Cchat%20sw%3A1.6-blocking&list_id=11078563 not so much. :)
14:00:47 <flo-retina> clokep_work: I wouldn't be surprised if half the blockers didn't really block
14:02:15 <clokep_work> I only see 4, I think.
14:02:50 <clokep_work> bug 982580, bug 1013563, bug 1022619, bug 1030059, bug 1034971
14:02:53 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=982580 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Zooming the conversation content is broken
14:02:54 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1013563 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, about:licenses not updated with GPL information after merge into c-c
14:02:55 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1022619 nor, --, ---, nobody, NEW, The findbar doesn't show anything for the "not found" case
14:02:56 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1030059 maj, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Passwords gone in newest nightly
14:02:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1034971 nor, --, 1.6, aleth, REOP, Regression: IRC topic not always settable on freshly-joined channels
14:04:01 <flo-retina> agreed
14:04:17 <flo-retina> anyway, the real blocker is setting up some build infrastructure for our releases
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14:16:11 <clokep_work> True. I forgot about that...
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15:08:01 <instantbot> New Instantbird - Conversation bug 1060397 filed by philipp@bugzilla.kewis.ch.
15:08:02 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1060397 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Doubleclick on #foo should put "/join #foo" in the message line when using IRC
15:08:45 <aleth> Fallen: I think we'd really like to linkify #foo instead?
15:10:18 <Fallen> fine with me :)
15:10:19 <aleth> I wonder how many false positives that would give us
15:10:44 <flo-retina> aleth: people quoting tweets on IRC? ;)
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15:21:33 <aleth> flo-retina: r? http://pastebin.instantbird.com/881570
15:22:01 <flo-retina> is this something we need / do you know what it does?
15:22:15 <aleth> I have no idea what it does, but I think we should stay in sync
15:22:16 <flo-retina> rs=me if you really want
15:22:51 <aleth> Easier to do it now than to have to diagnose something weird in a few weeks.
15:24:24 <instantbot> clokep@gmail.com changed the Resolution on bug 1060397 from --- to DUPLICATE.
15:24:25 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1060397 enh, --, ---, nobody, RESO DUPLICATE, Doubleclick on #foo should put "/join #foo" in the message line when using IRC
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17:12:13 <clokep_work> Anyone have thoughts on bug 1059398?
17:12:15 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1059398 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, I have Private message a guy on Thunder Bird IRC and then the converstaion renamed to undefined
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18:45:43 <flo-retina> do we have any idea of what could be causing bug 1059398?
18:45:45 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1059398 nor, --, ---, nobody, UNCO, I have Private message a guy on Thunder Bird IRC and then the converstaion renamed to undefined
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19:19:55 <clokep> No.
19:20:00 <clokep> We should ask if there are errors in the console.
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19:25:22 <flo-retina> right!
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20:18:46 <aleth> flo-retina, clokep: Likely just one of many TB UI bugs (either TB-specific or due to fixes that have not been ported)
20:20:47 <flo-retina> that's my guess too... but unfortunately it's not specific enough to help get started on a fix
20:24:15 <aleth> http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/components/im/content/imconversation.xml#1200
20:25:43 <aleth> Hmm, maybe that's actually OK despite the if (this.tab) and the bug is in imconv.xml
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20:26:55 <Mook_as> Hmm, can't seem to reproduce here (I just get a new conversation with a "different" person, and "xxx is not online." in the first tab)
20:30:33 <aleth> This all looks like it's intended to work ;) http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/components/im/content/imconv.xml#73
20:30:50 <aleth> Mook_as: That's not really the expected behaviour though
20:31:18 <aleth> My other guess was that we don't necessarily get informed of the nick change
20:31:57 <aleth> But I'm not sure.
20:32:57 <aleth> clokep's suggestion is still the best way forward ;)
20:34:03 <aleth> Something may be going wrong here http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/mail/components/im/content/imgroup.xml#87
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21:52:47 <flo-retina> aleth: that's another part of about:memory that could be worth looking at more closely: https://pastebin.mozilla.org/6221760
21:53:41 <flo-retina> "6.67 MB (01.18%) ── text-nodes" seems expensive. More than just the size of the strings for any of my displayed conversations
21:54:22 <flo-retina> I wonder if we aren't creating plenty of pointless empty text nodes when inserting messages, just because we have line breaks and other whitespace inside the markup of Incoming.html and similar files.
21:54:43 <flo-retina> s/Incoming/Content/
21:55:34 <flo-retina> I mean, I would be curious to see if putting all of http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/themes/messages/bubbles/Incoming/Content.html?force=1 on a single line would change the text-nodes weight in memory
21:56:12 <flo-retina> I wouldn't want to commit such a change making the code more difficult to read if doesn't have a significant impact on memory use
21:56:27 <flo-retina> so I would really like to have a way to reproducibly test memory usage
21:57:50 <flo-retina> "1.33 MB (00.23%) ++ class(Function)" also seems a lot for the compartment inside conv.html
22:00:42 <flo-retina> The only closure that could be created for each message I can see is http://mxr.mozilla.org/comm-central/source/im/themes/messages/bubbles/Footer.html?force=1#241
22:01:04 <flo-retina> but given that it keeps no reference to variables, one would hope it wouldn't be recreated each single time
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