#instantbird log on 07 05 2014

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04:14:47 <qheaden> qheaden_mobile: Testing mobile IRC connection.
04:15:11 <qheaden_mobile> qheaden: Test is good.
04:15:45 <qheaden> To all, I'll try to keep my mobile account connected. So if my main account is offline, try pinging me on mobile.
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04:19:48 <nhnt11> qheaden: Isn't that kind of a big battery drain? If you're away, we can likely wait for you :) (imho)
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04:20:47 <qheaden> Shouldn't be too bad. I think newer mobile IRC clients use longer polling intervals to save battery.
04:20:50 <qheaden> We shall see. ;)
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08:13:27 <flo-retina> polling?
08:13:44 <flo-retina> I thought the battery train was maintaining a TCP socket
08:14:31 <flo-retina> if you have an IRC client that actually connects you from a proxy server and that server sends push notifications when someone is talking to you, it shouldn't drain the battery (but then it's not really your phone that's connected to IRC)
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17:01:23 <aleth> Builds are broken, at least on Mac
17:01:44 <aleth> Looks like topsrcdir isn't set when configure.in is processed
17:07:55 <aleth> Looks like we need to port this https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/82fdf36eab59
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17:08:14 <qheaden> Hello.
17:09:01 * qheaden needs to find a way to get the newer version of ZNC working with Instantbird
17:56:07 <aleth> bah, now the linker is complaining
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19:18:16 <clokep_wp8> qheaden: What doesn't work?
19:19:15 <clokep_wp8> aleth: Looks like. I think the buf had other checkins too.
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20:15:15 <flo-retina> I connected my facebook account on Ib just to check that it still works
20:15:42 <flo-retina> As a reward, I got an email saying "It looks like someone logged into "XMPP Password Login""
20:17:55 <flo-retina> bug 954685 makes facebook chat on Instantbird quite useless though :(
20:17:57 <instantbot> Bug https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=954685 enh, --, ---, nobody, NEW, Facebook Chat: add support for 'mobile' flag/status
20:18:45 <qheaden> flo-retina: So they are only shown online when they are connected from their PC?
20:19:13 <flo-retina> qheaden: when connected from the website (and probably also when connected from an XMPP client)
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20:19:53 <flo-retina> qheaden: the problem is, tablets are counted as "mobile", and there's an increasing number of people using them instead of real computers :(
20:20:19 <qheaden> Yeah, that does make the plugin pretty useless.
20:21:12 * qheaden wonders why FB won't provide a mobile status for XMPP.
20:23:57 <flo-retina> I suspect they are trying to kill the XMPP gateway
20:24:07 <qheaden> Sounds like it.
20:24:27 <flo-retina> and making it useless seems a good way to then find that nobody's using it and it's OK to deprecate it
20:25:51 <flo-retina> even on the website, the idle time seems completely broken
20:26:45 <flo-retina> I talked to someone who was mobile, idle for 2 minutes. 10 minutes later the person replied. We talked for 2-3 minutes (until now). Now the person is shown as idle for 25 minutes.
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20:27:29 <flo-retina> I suspect 'idle' == Facebook not the currently active application on the tablet's screen
20:28:52 <aleth> After a clobber, this fixes the build issue for me http://pastebin.instantbird.com/746934
20:29:54 <flo-retina> The person sent one message that on the website was displayed as "sent from messenger". That caused the XMPP gateway to send me all the previous messages of the conversations. But not mine; which makes the conversation on Ib look like nonsense.
20:30:15 <qheaden> Wow, that's beyond broken.
20:30:32 <qheaden> No maintenance usually does point to killing it off.
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20:38:34 <flo-retina> looks like once the gateway has decided to send me the old part of the conversation, I can send messages from Instantbird and they do arrive
20:39:12 <flo-retina> the contact is now shown as available, despite being still shown as mobile on the website :-S
20:40:12 <aleth> Sounds like there is no consistent server-side support :-/
20:41:07 <flo-retina> The typing notifications seem also kinda broken
20:41:35 <flo-retina> The person was typing. Then no longer typing. Then a long message (or at least a message that must have taken a long time to type on a touch screen) arrived.
20:41:54 <flo-retina> but that's not the XMPP gateway's fault, it was displayed identically on the website
20:44:47 <aleth> flo-retina: r? on that build system bustage fix? or should I file a bug?
20:45:21 <flo-retina> ouch, the color for the 'typing' tab is beyond ugly :(
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22:05:27 <flo-retina> aleth: sorry for the late reply. Is this something also needed on mail/ ?
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